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Want to fight climate change? Have fewer children
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The new study, published in Environmental Research Letters, sets out the impact of different actions on a comparable basis. By far the biggest ultimate impact is having one fewer child, which the researchers calculated equated to a reduction of 58 tonnes of CO2 for each year of a parent’s life.
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“We recognise these are deeply personal choices. But we can’t ignore the climate effect our lifestyle actually has,” said Nicholas. “It is our job as scientists to honestly report the data. Like a doctor who sees the patient is in poor health and might not like the message ‘smoking is bad for you’, we are forced to confront the fact that current emission levels are really bad for the planet and human society.”

“In life, there are many values on which people make decisions and carbon is only one of them,” she added. “I don’t have children, but it is a choice I am considering and discussing with my fiance. Because we care so much about climate change that will certainly be one factor we consider in the decision, but it won’t be the only one.”
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The new study, published in Environmental Research Letters, sets out the impact of different actions on a comparable basis. By far the biggest ultimate impact is having one fewer child, which the researchers calculated equated to a reduction of 58 tonnes of CO2 for each year of a parent’s life.
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“We recognise these are deeply personal choices. But we can’t ignore the climate effect our lifestyle actually has,” said Nicholas. “It is our job as scientists to honestly report the data. Like a doctor who sees the patient is in poor health and might not like the message ‘smoking is bad for you’, we are forced to confront the fact that current emission levels are really bad for the planet and human society.”

“In life, there are many values on which people make decisions and carbon is only one of them,” she added. “I don’t have children, but it is a choice I am considering and discussing with my fiance. Because we care so much about climate change that will certainly be one factor we consider in the decision, but it won’t be the only one.”
What's the next step? Welcome to the Monkey House, ladies and gentlemen.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygdTuFjZnDc (the video doesn't play for me).


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Funny you bring that up, our government had a plan for that.
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In 1974, Choctaw-Cherokee physician Dr. Connie Pinkerton-Uri conducted a study that indicated that twenty-five thousand Native American women would be sterilized by the end of 1975. The information she gathered revealed that IHS facilities singled out full-blood Indian women for sterilization procedures. Based on her findings, Pinkerton-Uri stated that "we have only loo,ooo women of child-bearing age total-that's not per anything. The Indian population of this country is dwindling no matter what government statistics say to the contrary." Pinkerton-Uri's study also discovered that Indian women generally agreed to sterilization when they were threatened with the loss of their children and/or their welfare benefits, that most of them gave their consent when they were heavily sedated during a Cesarean section or when they were in a great deal of pain during labor, and that the women could not understand consent forms because they were written in English at the twelfth-grade level.
http://bixby.ucla.edu/journal_club/Lawrence_s2.pdf

Enlightened liberal paradises like California were conducting involuntary sterilizations as recently as 15 years ago.

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your logic is not

what caused low ice back then isn't necessarily what is causing low ice today, especially with a proven mechanism in effect today--greenhouse gas effect of co2 and methane.
deniers pick a fact here. pick a fact there.

what explains increased temperatures, rising sea levels, more acid ocean waters, melting permafrost, reduced arctic ice, shrinking glaciers, earlier arrival of spring, expansion of disease vectors, northern migration of species habitat?
FYI, that's how science works, addressing every aspect of the theory that attempts to explain a phenomenon. Mainstream says this temperature rise is unprecedented and is caused by CO2 - the opponents say the temperatures have risen centuries ago to higher levels without the likelihood of human contribution. The evidence of low ice falls neatly in this argument: if ice has melted thousands of years ago without the help of CO2 and methane, why do you think CO2 and methane are the cause for melting now?

As to your last paragraph: it all happens because the climate is getting warmer. For the thousandth time you are confusing the arguments: it's not about either temperature is increasing, it's about what causes it, human activity or not. I am waiting for the evidence of anthropogenicity.
Nafod had an interesting chart w/2 things that make me curious:

1) It started at a really cold time in history (about 20K years ago) and ended in speculation. Does anyone here know the average mean temperature 50K, 100K, 200K years ago? Was it colder or warmer back then? I understand that tides vary dramatically, presumably temperature and sea ice related.

2) Are there any reasons to think that an average mean temperature a degree or three above what it is today might be awesome in many ways? You never see that perspective which is one of the things that causes me to question the emotional objectivity of the "scientists" wrapped up in AGW.

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2) Are there any reasons to think that an average mean temperature a degree or three above what it is today might be awesome in many ways? You never see that perspective which is one of the things that causes me to question the emotional objectivity of the "scientists" wrapped up in AGW.
it might be awesome, except for human settlements on the coasts, which are threatened by sea level rise. it might be awesome, except for those places like the american southwest where there are lots of people and probably drought in the future.

there is nothing inherently "bad" about a warmer climate. seems to me it's a problem because of where humans have settled.

as we know, it was warmer previously. not a problem. today's the warmth is not from increased solar activity, it results from the scientifically proven warming effects of gases that humans are putting into the atmosphere.

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2) Are there any reasons to think that an average mean temperature a degree or three above what it is today might be awesome in many ways? You never see that perspective which is one of the things that causes me to question the emotional objectivity of the "scientists" wrapped up in AGW.
it might be awesome, except for human settlements on the coasts, which are threatened by sea level rise. it might be awesome, except for those places like the american southwest where there are lots of people and probably drought in the future.

there is nothing inherently "bad" about a warmer climate. seems to me it's a problem because of where humans have settled.

as we know, it was warmer previously. not a problem. today's the warmth is not from increased solar activity, it results from the scientifically proven warming effects of gases that humans are putting into the atmosphere.
Irma seems like it was a pretty normal big hurricane. Have heard a lot anecdotally about how FL is experiencing sea level rise related problems. Will be interested to see if flooding in Caribbean & FL was noticeably different than what occurred pre-warming - especially in surge areas.

Also wonder if all the rain will help refill FL's aquifers.

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Have heard a lot anecdotally about how FL is experiencing sea level rise related problems.
miami and norfolk, va are two cities where high tides once or twice a month now result in flooding. miami is spending 10s of millions to raise roads and install pumps in some areas.

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regarding the argument that the climate is always changing:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/ar ... more-20512

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simple explanation of how we know warming is manmade:

http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2017/04/04 ... t-natural/

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simple explanation of how we know warming is manmade:

http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2017/04/04 ... t-natural/
I don't expect you to have detailed answers to these question but you know a lot about this subject.
1) How much must the world reduce CO2 emissions to stop the warming?

2) To reduce CO2 emissions to the point necessary, how will it affect the ability of humanity to make a living and travel about? There's a downside to whatever increased costs come from slashing CO2 & CH4. The poor will carry the load of this downside a million times more than the rich. Do we know it's worth it?

3) I judge how serious people are about something by how much they change their behaviors. Are any of the leaders of the AGW community setting an example by changing their lifestyles such that we can say, "now there's an example I can follow"? I won't get into names but at the top all I see are globalists who want to restrict other peoples lives but not their own.

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3) I judge how serious people are about something by how much they change their behaviors. Are any of the leaders of the AGW community setting an example by changing their lifestyles such that we can say, "now there's an example I can follow"? I won't get into names but at the top all I see are globalists who want to restrict other peoples lives but not their own.
I agree with you here. Anyone who's legitimately concerned about AGW who still eats animal products is kidding themselves. Simplest choice anyone can make to reduce their GHG emissions is to not use animal products. Period.
I've seen the estimates as high as 30% of all GHG emissions are the result of factory farming animals once deforestation and other factors are included. And we don't need a single line of legislation to end it tomorrow. All it takes is a choice.

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3) I judge how serious people are about something by how much they change their behaviors. Are any of the leaders of the AGW community setting an example by changing their lifestyles such that we can say, "now there's an example I can follow"? I won't get into names but at the top all I see are globalists who want to restrict other peoples lives but not their own.
I agree with you here. Anyone who's legitimately concerned about AGW who still eats animal products is kidding themselves. Simplest choice anyone can make to reduce their GHG emissions is to not use animal products. Period.
I've seen the estimates as high as 30% of all GHG emissions are the result of factory farming animals once deforestation and other factors are included. And we don't need a single line of legislation to end it tomorrow. All it takes is a choice.
They also need to stop wearing leather. Animal lives matter.

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simple explanation of how we know warming is manmade:

http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2017/04/04 ... t-natural/
I don't expect you to have detailed answers to these question but you know a lot about this subject.
1) How much must the world reduce CO2 emissions to stop the warming?

2) To reduce CO2 emissions to the point necessary, how will it affect the ability of humanity to make a living and travel about? There's a downside to whatever increased costs come from slashing CO2 & CH4. The poor will carry the load of this downside a million times more than the rich. Do we know it's worth it?

3) I judge how serious people are about something by how much they change their behaviors. Are any of the leaders of the AGW community setting an example by changing their lifestyles such that we can say, "now there's an example I can follow"? I won't get into names but at the top all I see are globalists who want to restrict other peoples lives but not their own.
1) co2 levels in the atmosphere are now 400 ppm. i've seen various estimates of how high co2 can "safely" go, but 450 is one number that's out there. recently co2 growth has been 2.5 to 3 ppm annually.

as alfred has noted, eliminating grain-fed beef is one of the most effective steps an individual can make. according to one report (the atlantic, as i recall), becoming vegetarians is all we need to do. the fossil fuels required to grow corn and beans to fatten steers and the methane release from cattle manure are that big a deal.

2) encouraging the development of renewable power even more aggressively and converting to electric vehicles, powered by renewables, holds promise. the economics of renewables vs fossil power are complicated by subsidies and bad market design (we allow fossil burners not to pay full cost for the trash they put out, that is, pollution). i don't have a good handle on how far renewables will take us, but we're not near the limit, and we should get the economics right, by placing a price on carbon--pollution--that reflects its cost.

i've always though nuclear should play a role. my fellow socialists think i'm dangerous, an apostate. without all of us developing the political will to address waste storage, nuclear is going nowhere.

you ask about the cost of the transition and whether it is worth the cost. what's the cost of not making the tranisition? if sea level does rise by 3 feet by 2050, as some predict, tell me what you think the cost will be to make houston, new orleans, miami, and new york livable? or a 5-foot rise in sea level by 2100. what's the cost?

or a 25-foot rise if the melting of the greenland glaciers picks up. (we'll pretend the antarctic glaciers aren't going to melt.)

3) as for the behavior of elites, dont look to me to hold them up as models. what i will say, though, is that some people you hate--say al gore--have pushed investment in clean technology. many businesses are becoming more efficient, which reduces emissions and results in savings, and investing in renewables as a hedge against volatile energy prices. a global view makes sense. the international carbon markets have driven clean technology in india and china and the like. large companies that get commodities in latin america and africa are investing in their supply communities to make them more stable. farmers everywhere, with the right incentives, have the ability to store large amounts of carbon in agricultural soils. using a sink like that buys some time.

do i think the apocalypse is looming? it's hard to believe, but the evidence is troubling. do i think humans will do what the always do? that is, when you no longer have a choice, you do the right thing. the problem with waiting on climate are the feedback loops, which mean that even if we slow co2 emissions, enough bad stuff will continue to happen to push warming. two examples: (1) with arctic ice melting, the dark water will absorb more heat, whereas ice would have reflected it. (2) melting permafrost, which is happening, releases methane (with 22 times the forcing ability of co2), and warming is further encouraged.

progressives are driving their priuses, eating local, wearing hemp shoes, composting old cotton clothes, putting up solar panels, and being sanctimonious. that could be you.

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as we know, it was warmer previously. not a problem.
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This is the first reasonable thing you said in forty plus pages of this thread. Pause and reflect.

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Is climate change nothing more than a subtle game that Jesus is playing to punish us for the gays? I ask you...could we not gather up all the gays and house them somewhere, of course in a fashionable hip area, with great theater and nightlife, and counsel them on their aberrant behavior and how it's bringing about the destruction of mankind? After a suitable period of time when they're cured and swear an oath and sign an affidavit they will no longer engage in these despicable behaviors we should be okay, right?


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Is climate change nothing more than a subtle game that Jesus is playing to punish us for the gays? I ask you...could we not gather up all the gays and house them somewhere, of course in a fashionable hip area, with great theater and nightlife, and counsel them on their aberrant behavior and how it's bringing about the destruction of mankind? After a suitable period of time when they're cured and swear an oath and sign an affidavit they will no longer engage in these despicable behaviors we should be okay, right?
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTOIN. DO WE NEED TO EATZ MOAR HUNNY AND READ KJV??? :axe: :axe: :axe: :axe: :axe:

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Hmmm, that's a really bad criteria for evaluating the correctness of modeling of the atmosphere. Ever seen a fat doctor or one who smokes? Pilot who skipped a pre-flight while in a hurry?

As the climate changes there will be winners and losers, and not just in a "chaos is a ladder" sense. Even if the climate just changed and didn't warm up, we'd have upheaval as the current haves are staring at a future have-not status and find justification (religion, past slights, manifest destiny, whatever it takes) to grab what the new haves have. The have-nots will either have even less or have their new stuff taken and exploited. Social unrest and wars ensue.

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Is it possible that honey blessed by the leaders of all the world's religions, except for Scientology and Mormonism of course, could be the elixir that can cure homosexuality? What do you think, maybe a teaspoon full? It would certainly go a long way to demonstrate to Jesus that we are taking this issue very seriously and maybe he'd dial things back a bit. Maybe just a small volcano blast in the south Pacific to keep us on our toes.


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Jesus jizz?

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Dang it Nafod, we are trying NOT to offend here and this is not helping.


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BRZRKR COME BACK AND SAVE US FROM THIS HERITIC!

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as co2 rises, nutrition in crops declines:
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elevated CO2 has been shown to drive down important minerals like calcium, potassium, zinc and iron. The data we have, which look at how plants would respond to the kind of CO2 concentrations we may see in our lifetimes, show these important minerals drop by 8 percent, on average. The same conditions have been shown to drive down the protein content of C3 crops, in some cases significantly, with wheat and rice dropping 6 percent and 8 percent, respectively.
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simple explanation of how we know warming is manmade:

http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2017/04/04 ... t-natural/
I don't expect you to have detailed answers to these question but you know a lot about this subject.
1) How much must the world reduce CO2 emissions to stop the warming?

2) To reduce CO2 emissions to the point necessary, how will it affect the ability of humanity to make a living and travel about? There's a downside to whatever increased costs come from slashing CO2 & CH4. The poor will carry the load of this downside a million times more than the rich. Do we know it's worth it?

3) I judge how serious people are about something by how much they change their behaviors. Are any of the leaders of the AGW community setting an example by changing their lifestyles such that we can say, "now there's an example I can follow"? I won't get into names but at the top all I see are globalists who want to restrict other peoples lives but not their own.
1) co2 levels in the atmosphere are now 400 ppm. i've seen various estimates of how high co2 can "safely" go, but 450 is one number that's out there. recently co2 growth has been 2.5 to 3 ppm annually.

as alfred has noted, eliminating grain-fed beef is one of the most effective steps an individual can make. according to one report (the atlantic, as i recall), becoming vegetarians is all we need to do. the fossil fuels required to grow corn and beans to fatten steers and the methane release from cattle manure are that big a deal.

2) encouraging the development of renewable power even more aggressively and converting to electric vehicles, powered by renewables, holds promise. the economics of renewables vs fossil power are complicated by subsidies and bad market design (we allow fossil burners not to pay full cost for the trash they put out, that is, pollution). i don't have a good handle on how far renewables will take us, but we're not near the limit, and we should get the economics right, by placing a price on carbon--pollution--that reflects its cost.

i've always though nuclear should play a role. my fellow socialists think i'm dangerous, an apostate. without all of us developing the political will to address waste storage, nuclear is going nowhere.

you ask about the cost of the transition and whether it is worth the cost. what's the cost of not making the tranisition? if sea level does rise by 3 feet by 2050, as some predict, tell me what you think the cost will be to make houston, new orleans, miami, and new york livable? or a 5-foot rise in sea level by 2100. what's the cost?

or a 25-foot rise if the melting of the greenland glaciers picks up. (we'll pretend the antarctic glaciers aren't going to melt.)

3) as for the behavior of elites, dont look to me to hold them up as models. what i will say, though, is that some people you hate--say al gore--have pushed investment in clean technology. many businesses are becoming more efficient, which reduces emissions and results in savings, and investing in renewables as a hedge against volatile energy prices. a global view makes sense. the international carbon markets have driven clean technology in india and china and the like. large companies that get commodities in latin america and africa are investing in their supply communities to make them more stable. farmers everywhere, with the right incentives, have the ability to store large amounts of carbon in agricultural soils. using a sink like that buys some time.

do i think the apocalypse is looming? it's hard to believe, but the evidence is troubling. do i think humans will do what the always do? that is, when you no longer have a choice, you do the right thing. the problem with waiting on climate are the feedback loops, which mean that even if we slow co2 emissions, enough bad stuff will continue to happen to push warming. two examples: (1) with arctic ice melting, the dark water will absorb more heat, whereas ice would have reflected it. (2) melting permafrost, which is happening, releases methane (with 22 times the forcing ability of co2), and warming is further encouraged.

progressives are driving their priuses, eating local, wearing hemp shoes, composting old cotton clothes, putting up solar panels, and being sanctimonious. that could be you.
This week I had farm raised trout for dinner one night (right on the campus where SJW's covered rapist Jefferson's statue in black) and ethically caught tuna another night, so I've done my part - at least as much as Al Gore. Wasn't sure if the move from red meat was a good thing because I spared a cow from slaughter or if I abetted earth's AGW destruction by keeping a bovine earth warmer alive for another day. Either way, my heart was in the right place which makes me an environmentally responsible good person.

Will work on increasing my already substantial sanctimony and picking up some hemp clothing.

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Donk, what you need is a massage from my friend's daughter. Seriously. Here is her bio...she's a grad student and budding massage therapist.
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XXX is a PhD student of Women’s Studies, and a student of massage therapy...research focuses on the intersections of race, gender, sexuality, and wellness, especially among social justice activists...interested in intergenerational trauma; the compounding effects of microaggressions and of navigating oppressive structures on the body, mind, and spirit; the health impacts of chronic stress associated with inhabiting a marginalized body; ...in the potential role of massage, bodywork, or therapeutic touch in increasing wellness among marginalized people.
Unmarginalize yourself!
My body has been feeling increasingly marginalized and laden with oppressive structures lately.

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Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party


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