Turdacious wrote:I bring Philly up because it's the most egregious abuser of civil forfeiture laws that I know of. But how would Philly raise the revenue it needs without civil forfeiture (i.e. a de facto tax on poor black residents-- the least economically mobile residents)? Raise property taxes and more taxpayers move to the suburbs, and the soda tax will only do so much. If Philly falls apart, the only local beneficiary would be Camden. Other than decreasing unfunded state and federal mandates, I don't know the answer.
You've not even attempted to describe the relationship between where the money comes from and where it goes..
You've shown no linkage between asset forfeiture and property tax revenue, no comparison of dollars, no illustrative background on the constraints of what each can be spent on. You're attempting to draw a conclusion (if we reduce revenue from graft and fraud under the Asset Forfeiture laws...the City will be strapped because it's property taxes are too low) that has no basis in the data your citing.
HINT: it doesn't pay for STEM classes, it's not free and clear general fund money. In Penn for instance....
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/leg ... &subsctn=0
(f) Use of cash or proceeds of property.--Cash or proceeds of forfeited property transferred to the custody of the district attorney pursuant to subsection (e) shall be placed in the operating fund of the county in which the district attorney is elected. The appropriate county authority shall immediately release from the operating fund, without restriction, a like amount for the use of the district attorney enforcing the provisions of The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act. The entity having budgetary control shall not anticipate future forfeitures or proceeds therefrom in adoption and approval of the budget for the district attorney.
Get It? The money goes into General Fun and RIGHT BACK TO THE DA...
Under state civil forfeiture laws, all the revenue generated from forfeiture goes directly to law enforcement and can even be distributed to police and prosecutors as bonuses. As a result, the agencies making enforcement decisions have a strong financial incentive to pursue as many forfeitures as possible. In Philadelphia, the district attorney’s share of forfeiture proceeds is roughly $2.2 million — or 7.3% of its appropriated budget.
In Philly, 7.3% of the DA's office is AF money. Your 20% number is not sourced well but nonetheless....it doesn't go into General Fund. without Context of how the money can be spent, your assertion is meaningless.
https://www.aclupa.org/files/3214/3326/ ... _FINAL.pdf
In CT, the law is similar...the money goes to the Po Po....
http://www.wfsb.com/story/22078253/what ... drug-busts
Let's return to Philly...just so we understand that you're defending a disgusting practice on the grounds of its critical importance
to City budget. It's not...it's Money for the DA to use in enforcing Drug laws. So what are we talking in total dollars for the people who's lives are destroyed. What do we get for our forfeiture money in Philly?
The raw numbers of forfeiture enforcement in Philadelphia are staggering. Based on data from 2011 to 2013, roughly 6,000 forfeiture cases are filed on an annual basis, including nearly 300 against houses and other real estate. This enforcement activity results in the forfeiture of some 100 homes, 150 vehicles, and roughly $4 million in cash each year, for a total of around $5 million in annual income.
What's the Total Budget for the City?
Right around one tenth of a percent.
Sure seems to me that the 9 million, much of it in AF amounts of 100 bucks means more to the local economy and its residents that it does to the budget of the City.
Jog On with this Philly needs that paper bullshit.