The street game of "Knockout".

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Re: The street game of "Knockout".

Post by Turdacious » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:29 pm

That you have to go to the peak of the crack wars (which fueled the rising homicide rate) to even make that argument says it all.

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Chicago likes to compare itself to other world cities, so Ward Room thought it would find out how we rank in violence.

It turns out no one can top us.

Among what are considered Alpha world cities, Chicago has the highest murder rate -- higher even than the Third World metropolises of Mexico City and Sao Paolo.

Here’s how we rank in murders per 100,000 among cities we consider our peers, based on a projected murder total of 505 for this year.

Singapore 0.4
Tokyo 0.5
Hong Kong 0.6
Berlin 1.0
Sydney 1.0
London 1.4
Toronto 1.7
Amsterdam 1.8
Paris 4.4
New York 6.0
Los Angeles 7.5
Mexico City 8.0
Moscow 9.6
Sao Paulo 15.6
Chicago 19.4

We could be doing worse: Caracas, Venezuela has a murder rate of 130 per 100,000. But its undeniable that the Windy City is under seige.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-ro ... z2kGxpEO1h
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Re: The street game of "Knockout".

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Re: The street game of "Knockout".

Post by Turdacious » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:07 pm

WHAT SPELLS DOESN'T WANT TO SAY IS THAT CHICAGO HAS REDUCED ITS HOMICIDE RATE BY CONCENTRATING IT, AND THEN NOT EFFECTIVELY ADDRESSING IT (like most other cities have):

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If you live in Edison Park, Garfield Park is not your problem. The homicide rate in Fuller Park may briefly dismay us, but then we move on to the next thing. We hate hearing about the murders, but it's not us, our neighbors, our family members, or our friends who are getting the heartbreaking middle-of-the-night calls.
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Re: The street game of "Knockout".

Post by Batboy2/75 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:41 pm

Chicago has three problems. None directly caused by guns.

The first problem is most of its poorer section believe in Negro gangster culture.

The Second problem is a political machine in bed with the gangsters that run particular sections of the city.

The third, and most important problem, is stupid Lilly white hand wringing dumb asses that vote blindly for the democratic machine and its corrosive agenda.
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Re: The street game of "Knockout".

Post by Grandpa's Spells » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:46 pm

Turd,

Chicago's 2013 murder rate is the lowest since 1965.
Murders concentrated in poor neighborhoods should make the average person feel much, much safer, not more at risk.
Our murder rate, while bad, is not in the 10 for US metro areas once you look at murders/1000 people.

Turn off Fox News and ignore the National Rifle Marketing Association.
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Re: The street game of "Knockout".

Post by Turdacious » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:56 pm

Nice try Spells, but I don't tend to use Fox or NRA stats.
Chicago today logged its 350th homicide of the year, a RedEye analysis of preliminary police data found.

Two men were shot to death today in the 10500 block of South Lafayette Avenue in Roseland, the Tribune reported.

Chicago reached 350 homicides in 2012 on Aug. 21 and in 2011 on Oct. 19, RedEye determined.

Homicides are down 18 percent versus 2012 and up 3 percent versus 2011, according to RedEye data.
http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/

Best since 1965?

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http://www.heyjackass.com/category/2013/

Averaging one homicide a day in what's historically a below average month for homicides is not a good trend.
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Post by Grandpa's Spells » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:49 pm

Turdacious wrote:Nice try Spells, but I don't tend to use Fox or NRA stats.

Best since 1965?

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I don't know how you think you are making a point here. January through October 2013 showed the lowest murder rate for that 10 month span since 1965. It's just fact.
http://homicides.suntimes.com/2013/11/0 ... ince-1965/

Your graph doesn't dispute this.

390, while bad, is way under half of what it's been.
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Post by Pinky » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:51 pm

According to the FBI*, 2012 was the worst year for Chicago since 2003 in terms of homocide; however, aggravated assault and robbery were lower than they had been in decades.

*The FBI data are based on reports from the Chicago PD.
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Post by Kazuya Mishima » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:01 am

Let me get everybody back on task here...no matter where the rate is now compared to some arbitrary point in time, you can bet your sweet ass the rate is where it's at because of a bunch of knuckle dragging niggers shooting other knuckle dragging niggers or preying on some other race of people.

If somebody got shot in Chicago last night it may be the first time it's happened in a month of Sundays but I'll lay odds the perp was a shit skinned scion of the welfare state.

Spells, I don't know how you can sleep at night. These nigger apologetics are about the worst thing you can do to sell your own kind down the river.

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Re: The street game of "Knockout".

Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:05 am

What's the crime rate if you take out black on black crime, which isn't considered crime by Chicago politicians anyway, it's just bidniss

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Kazuya Mishima wrote:Spells, I don't know how you can sleep at night. These nigger apologetics are about the worst thing you can do to sell your own kind down the river.
Serious question: what are you talking about? What river? How does not hating black people affect other white people?
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Re: The street game of "Knockout".

Post by Turdacious » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:46 am

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Turdacious wrote:Nice try Spells, but I don't tend to use Fox or NRA stats.

Best since 1965?

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I don't know how you think you are making a point here. January through October 2013 showed the lowest murder rate for that 10 month span since 1965. It's just fact.
http://homicides.suntimes.com/2013/11/0 ... ince-1965/

Your graph doesn't dispute this.

390, while bad, is way under half of what it's been.
My point is that the Chicago murder rate is on par with 'normal' (once you factor out crack territory fueled murders)-- it's dropped significantly in every other major city that hasn't gone to shit economically. The part you left out, about the rising rate in November, matters.

Chicago has a higher per capita rate than NYC and LA-- theirs have dropped; Chicago's hasn't. You attitude of 'meh, it used to be worse' is kind of sad.
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Re: The street game of "Knockout".

Post by Turdacious » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:55 am

This week, Texas’ Department of Public Safety released new data on the continued downward trend in Texas crime rates. Specifically, Texas saw an 8.3 percent drop in property crime and a 9.3 percent drop in violent crime. This included a 14.3 percent drop in murders, a 15.4 percent drop in robberies, and a 4.3 percent drop in rapes. The drop in Texas outpaced the decrease in crime rates nationwide — only a 0.8 percent drop in property crime and 4 percent in violent crime.

Significantly, this crime rate drop came while Texas’ incarceration rate dropped 1.45 percent, it closed a prison, and it continued to emphasize alternatives to incarceration for low-level non-violent offenders.

This stands in marked contrast to states which have yet to reconsider the failed criminal justice policies of the past.

For example, while Illinois has not yet released its statewide crime rate data, the FBI released data on selected cities in the state, and the numbers are discouraging. In Chicago, the murder rate dropped only 0.5 percent and the robbery rate dropped 1.7 percent. Burglaries increased 0.8 percent, and 1.9 percent more cars were stolen. The violent crime index also increased in Illinois’ next largest city, Aurora.

These increased crime rates have myriad causes, but it is important to note that Illinois is a state which has been slow to consider data and evidence-driven criminal justice reforms.
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Post by Grandpa's Spells » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:58 am

Turdacious wrote:Chicago has a higher per capita rate than NYC and LA-- theirs have dropped; Chicago's hasn't. You attitude of 'meh, it used to be worse' is kind of sad.
Violent crime is down, and that is a good thing.
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Post by Kazuya Mishima » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:14 pm

Look Spells...your beloved niggers...

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/11/12/ ... t-the-jew/

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Kazuya Mishima wrote:Look Spells...your beloved niggers...

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/11/12/ ... t-the-jew/
Improbable. I get why these Jews may feel they were targeted for being Jewish, but it's more likely because they're there.
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Post by nafod » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:51 pm

Turdacious wrote:WHAT SPELLS DOESN'T WANT TO SAY IS THAT CHICAGO HAS REDUCED ITS HOMICIDE RATE BY CONCENTRATING IT
I'M GOOD WITH THAT, AS LONG AS "IT" IS NOT THE GALLERIA
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Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Kazuya Mishima wrote:Look Spells...your beloved niggers...

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/11/12/ ... t-the-jew/
Improbable. I get why these Jews may feel they were targeted for being Jewish, but it's more likely because they're there.

Close, Steve.... Chris talked about "niggers" which like White Trash is the bottom end of the race's bell curve of violent behavior.

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Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Kazuya Mishima wrote:Look Spells...your beloved niggers...

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/11/12/ ... t-the-jew/
Improbable. I get why these Jews may feel they were targeted for being Jewish, but it's more likely because they're there.
Blacks shoot each other, and punch others.
I live near there, technically the same neighborhood. That's where the riots were back in 90 or 91. The Jews over there are targeted because they are seen as a soft target, although I understand the community stockpiled weapons in the early 90s after the riots. (Seriously, I heard it from a cop on the Brooklyn South Task Force back then.)
Anyway, there aren't many gentrifying hipsters over there for the little shits to punch.
On my side of Eastern Parkway nothing like this is happening, probably because every night, I get off the train, and on the six block walk home I see 10-15 cops.
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Post by Kazuya Mishima » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:50 pm

THIS WILL MAKE SPELLS HEAD EXPLODE!!!!!!!!1111

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Post by Protobuilder » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:27 pm

Sometimes things like this have a nice ending.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... _brut.html
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Terry B. wrote:Sometimes things like this have a nice ending.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... _brut.html
=D> =D> =D>

It's amazing how humble and tractable people become when they catch the shit end of the stick. If he had gotten away with stunning and beating this "wood" half to death, he would have been high fiving it at the crib and celebrating his victory. I'm shocked that the story didn't contain quotes from his supportive parents with anecdotes about how he is a "good kid" that's "never been in trouble with the law" or "has had some run-ins but is turning his life around and is now an aspiring rapper".

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Kazuya Mishima wrote:
Terry B. wrote:Sometimes things like this have a nice ending.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... _brut.html
=D> =D> =D>

It's amazing how humble and tractable people become when they catch the shit end of the stick. If he had gotten away with stunning and beating this "wood" half to death, he would have been high fiving it at the crib and celebrating his victory. I'm shocked that the story didn't contain quotes from his supportive parents with anecdotes about how he is a "good kid" that's "never been in trouble with the law" or "has had some run-ins but is turning his life around and is now an aspiring rapper".
This could have all been prevented with stronger anti-gun laws and more PSAs about tolerance. Society is to blame, that is clearly.
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Turdacious wrote:
Kazuya Mishima wrote:
Terry B. wrote:Sometimes things like this have a nice ending.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... _brut.html
=D> =D> =D>

It's amazing how humble and tractable people become when they catch the shit end of the stick. If he had gotten away with stunning and beating this "wood" half to death, he would have been high fiving it at the crib and celebrating his victory. I'm shocked that the story didn't contain quotes from his supportive parents with anecdotes about how he is a "good kid" that's "never been in trouble with the law" or "has had some run-ins but is turning his life around and is now an aspiring rapper".
This could have all been prevented with stronger anti-gun laws and more PSAs about tolerance. Society is to blame, that is clearly.
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Kazuya Mishima wrote:PEOPLE WHO DON'T THINK ITS A GOOD IDEA TO SHIT IN SARAH PALINS MOUTH
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