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http://takimag.com/article/is_maureen_d ... z2ohqnvXj1
So now that women don’t need men to reproduce and refinance, the question is, will we keep you around? And the answer is, ‘You know we need you in the way we need ice cream — you’ll be more ornamental.’
I like this chap...
Listen, Corn Flower. Let’s think over this business of obsolete men. Reflect. You live in New York, in which every building was designed and built by men. You perhaps use the subway—designed, built, and maintained by men. You travel in a car—invented, designed, and built by men—a vehicle that you don’t understand (what is a cam lobe?) and couldn’t maintain (have you ever changed a tire? Could you even find the tires?), and you do this on roads designed, built, and maintained by men. You fly in aircraft designed, built, and maintained by men, which you do not understand. (What, Moon Pie, is a high-bypass turbofan?)
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Don’t misunderstand me. I have nothing against ill-bred viragos—feminism has its place, though I’m not sure where. But let me be clear, Butter Cup. I don’t want to seem rude—nothing could be more alien to my character—but I do think that you and your littermates might assay a civility exceeding that of menopausing catamounts. In fact, Sweet Potato, if it were not for my innate courtesy I might say that being at once useless and insupportable is stretching things.

A jot—an iota, a tittle, a scintilla—of gratitude might be in order. Should you look around you, you will note that everything that keeps you and the sisterhood from squatting in caves and picking lice from each other’s hair was provided for you by—the horror—men.

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Women like this are why I'm a misogynist.

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But I suppose the shrewery are so busy honking and blowing about socially constructed this and gender-roles that and patriarchal the-other-thing that you don’t understand that there is anything to understand. Is it not so? When you sit at your computer spewing bile like a legged gallbladder, are you aware of 2,500 years of mathematics, chemistry, solid-state physics, engineering, information theory—all invented by men, the bastards—that go into the blinking screen? Your vituperative ingratitude, Sugar Britches, is undignified.

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I see that one of my favorites is in on this action: "End of Men" author Hanna Rosin.

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From her official bio:
Hanna Rosin was born in Israel and moved to Queens, New York, when she was five. She comes from a long line of matriarchs, women who either ruled over their husbands or ran away from them. She attended Stanford University, and lives in Washington, D.C. with her husband and their three children.
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The good news is, nobody has to pay attention to any of this bleating.

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They should build alters to and worship electricity and the internal combustion engine because with out those things they'd be second class again as a group in an instant.




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Could you even find the tires?
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lasalle wrote:I see that one of my favorites is in on this action: "End of Men" author Hanna Rosin.

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From her official bio:
Hanna Rosin was born in Israel and moved to Queens, New York, when she was five. She comes from a long line of matriarchs, women who either ruled over their husbands or ran away from them. She attended Stanford University, and lives in Washington, D.C. with her husband and their three children.
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Majority of college students are females now.
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http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 2857012920
Camille Paglia: A Feminist Defense of Masculine Virtues
'What you're seeing is how a civilization commits suicide," says Camille Paglia. This self-described "notorious Amazon feminist" isn't telling anyone to Lean In or asking Why Women Still Can't Have It All. No, her indictment may be as surprising as it is wide-ranging: The military is out of fashion, Americans undervalue manual labor, schools neuter male students, opinion makers deny the biological differences between men and women, and sexiness is dead. And that's just 20 minutes of our three-hour conversation.
....But no subject gets her going more than when I ask if she really sees a connection between society's attempts to paper over the biological distinction between men and women and the collapse of Western civilization.

She starts by pointing to the diminished status of military service. "The entire elite class now, in finance, in politics and so on, none of them have military service—hardly anyone, there are a few. But there is no prestige attached to it anymore. That is a recipe for disaster," she says. "These people don't think in military ways, so there's this illusion out there that people are basically nice, people are basically kind, if we're just nice and benevolent to everyone they'll be nice too. They literally don't have any sense of evil or criminality."

The results, she says, can be seen in everything from the dysfunction in Washington (where politicians "lack practical skills of analysis and construction") to what women wear. "So many women don't realize how vulnerable they are by what they're doing on the street," she says, referring to women who wear sexy clothes.

When she has made this point in the past, Ms. Paglia—who dresses in androgynous jackets and slacks—has been told that she believes "women are at fault for their own victimization." Nonsense, she says. "I believe that every person, male and female, needs to be in a protective mode at all times of alertness to potential danger. The world is full of potential attacks, potential disasters." She calls it "street-smart feminism."

Ms. Paglia argues that the softening of modern American society begins as early as kindergarten. "Primary-school education is a crock, basically. It's oppressive to anyone with physical energy, especially guys," she says, pointing to the most obvious example: the way many schools have cut recess. "They're making a toxic environment for boys. Primary education does everything in its power to turn boys into neuters."

She is not the first to make this argument, as Ms. Paglia readily notes. Fellow feminist Christina Hoff Sommers has written about the "war against boys" for more than a decade. The notion was once met with derision, but now data back it up: Almost one in five high-school-age boys has been diagnosed with ADHD, boys get worse grades than girls and are less likely to go to college.

Ms. Paglia observes this phenomenon up close with her 11-year-old son, Lucien, whom she is raising with her ex-partner, Alison Maddex, an artist and public-school teacher who lives 2 miles away. She sees the tacit elevation of "female values"—such as sensitivity, socialization and cooperation—as the main aim of teachers, rather than fostering creative energy and teaching hard geographical and historical facts.

By her lights, things only get worse in higher education. "This PC gender politics thing—the way gender is being taught in the universities—in a very anti-male way, it's all about neutralization of maleness." The result: Upper-middle-class men who are "intimidated" and "can't say anything. . . . They understand the agenda." In other words: They avoid goring certain sacred cows by "never telling the truth to women" about sex, and by keeping "raunchy" thoughts and sexual fantasies to themselves and their laptops.

Politically correct, inadequate education, along with the decline of America's brawny industrial base, leaves many men with "no models of manhood," she says. "Masculinity is just becoming something that is imitated from the movies. There's nothing left. There's no room for anything manly right now." The only place you can hear what men really feel these days, she claims, is on sports radio. No surprise, she is an avid listener. The energy and enthusiasm "inspires me as a writer," she says, adding: "If we had to go to war," the callers "are the men that would save the nation."

And men aren't the only ones suffering from the decline of men. Women, particularly elite upper-middle-class women, have become "clones" condemned to "Pilates for the next 30 years," Ms. Paglia says. "Our culture doesn't allow women to know how to be womanly," adding that online pornography is increasingly the only place where men and women in our sexless culture tap into "primal energy" in a way they can't in real life.

A key part of the remedy, she believes, is a "revalorization" of traditional male trades—the ones that allow women's studies professors to drive to work (roads), take the elevator to their office (construction), read in the library (electricity), and go to gender-neutral restrooms (plumbing).

This line from the interview may deserve its own thread;
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I wonder if we should let the Russells know.
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nafod wrote:Majority of college students are females now.
Is it becase fewer males can be suckered into beleiving that it's worth starting your adult life six figures in debt to acquire a degree in arts or social science? How many more baristas with psychology degrees do we need?
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nafod wrote:Majority of college students are females now.

Mostly obtaining credentialed degrees in nothing. Same for their male counterparts..
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WildGorillaMan wrote:
nafod wrote:Majority of college students are females now.
Is it becase fewer males can be suckered into beleiving that it's worth starting your adult life six figures in debt to acquire a degree in arts or social science? How many more baristas with psychology degrees do we need?
From the same interview linked above;
" Michelle Obama's going on: 'Everybody must have college.' Why? Why? What is the reason why everyone has to go to college? Especially when college is so utterly meaningless right now, it has no core curriculum" and "people end up saddled with huge debts," says Ms. Paglia. What's driving the push toward universal college is "social snobbery on the part of a lot of upper-middle-class families who want the sticker in the window."
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From what little I know of Camille Paglia, I like.
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The emphasis on everyone going to college is nothing more than a society aping the mores and code of the elite upper class. An upper class (and institutions) that are increasingly corrupt, degenerate and effete.
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Dropping out of college and starting a career in IT was the best decision I could have ever made.

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baffled wrote:From what little I know of Camille Paglia, I like.
She calls them as she sees them, and isn't blindly dogmatic, which is why she's persona non grata amongst most of the Cliterati.
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http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-w ... re-s,34569
Area Woman Thinking About Doing That Thing Where She’s Mean To Other Women She Meets For No Reason
NEWS IN BRIEF • Local • Women • ISSUE 49•46 • Nov 15, 2013
TACOMA, WA—Local woman Jillian Lauretta confirmed to reporters Friday that she was thinking of doing that thing where she acts incredibly cold and unfriendly toward other women she has just met for absolutely no earthly reason whatsoever. “You know, I think I might just go ahead and make a couple women whom I don’t know and whom I have absolutely no reason to dislike feel very uncomfortable and insecure by greeting them with a tight-lipped smile and then silently judging them,” said the 32-year-old accounts manager, adding that she might even tack on the whole bit where she reacts to every perfectly pleasant thing another woman says with chilly near-silence and then, when said woman leaves the room, say something mildly cutting about her in a way that opens the conversation up to outright trash talk if anyone else is so inclined. “While I’m at it, I’ll probably feel threatened by her based on nothing at all and then make little passive-aggressive asides about her—whereas she’ll just be really friendly to me, which will only make me feel small and petty, and my self-loathing will drive me to irrationally despise her all the more.” At press time, reports indicate that Lauretta was not laughing at a humorous remark another woman was making.
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WildGorillaMan wrote:
baffled wrote:From what little I know of Camille Paglia, I like.
She calls them as she sees them, and isn't blindly dogmatic, which is why she's persona non grata amongst most of the Cliterati.

Her and Tammy Bruce.




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nafod wrote:Majority of college students are females now.
In part because the public schools, medical establishment, and the justice system are prejudiced against boys.
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