How Do People Feel About Mad Max: Fury Road?

[bennyonesix]

[Kazuya Mishima]

Interestingly enough, that's the guy who is playing the scary mask faced dude in Fury Road. So, same character or just same actor?

[bennyonesix]

http://madmax.wikia.com/wiki/Toecutter

Hugh Keays Bryne, who portrays Toecutter, reprises his role as a main Mad Max villain, Immortan Joe, in the 2015 film - Mad Max: Fury Road.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

"Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror"

[bennyonesix]

[Shafpocalypse Now]

For my doctoral thesis I discussed themes of alienation and post-American fortitude in Mad Max and also compared the plot of Hell Comes to Frogtown to the New Testament of the Bible.

[bennyonesix]

[Shafpocalypse Now]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBcM1kl-4b8[/youtube]

[Shafpocalypse Now]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2gVXd7FzhQ[/youtube]

[DARTH]

Take away the various debates on the effects of a nuclear war and Mad Max and Road Warrior had realistic action, you could buy into the story because you could see shit going like that. Max was no Spec Ops Rambo Commando, he got hurt left and right, Max's real strength was his heart.

This shit looks WAY over the top in the action and effects and the violence looks Matrix/cartoonish.

And as per Thunderdome, that movie got better the older I got, especially when I realised that Blaster was the Retard from the farm in Mad Max.

[bennyonesix]

Take away the various debates on the effects of a nuclear war and Mad Max and Road Warrior had realistic action, you could buy into the story because you could see shit going like that. Max was no Spec Ops Rambo Commando, he got hurt left and right, Max's real strength was his heart.

As, when in tumults rise th' ignoble crowd,
Mad are their motions, and their tongues are loud;
And stones and brands in rattling volleys fly,
And all the rustic arms that fury can supply:
If then some grave and pious man appear,
They hush their noise, and lend a list'ning ear;
He soothes with sober words their angry mood,
And quenches their innate desire of blood:
So, when the Father of the Flood appears,
And o'er the seas his sov'reign trident rears,
Their fury falls: he skims the liquid plains,
High on his chariot, and, with loosen'd reins,
Majestic moves along, and awful peace maintains. Aeneid Bk 1

[terra]

How do I feel about Fury Road. Mind you this is from a Mad Max fan. We grew up on Mad Max, 11 years old on our BMX bikes. My mate "Borrowing" his mums silent home movie camera to film chase scenes and stunts.

I think to understand the cult status of Mad Max 1 and the moviegasm that is elicits from my generation here in Oz, you have to have lived here in the time that it was made… Our views of being shackled to the cold war that wasn't ours and how an apocalypse might play out, with our resources and isolation in Oz... The car culture, the open spaces... The strange innocence/naivety of the place. Remember that MM1 takes place after societal breakdown but with no overt indication of the apocalypse itself. Mad Max II plays the apocalypse card fully (and very well).

The MM1 version of apocalyptic society can be understood better through reading Nevil Shute’s ‘On the Beach’. As a movie, MM1 was an Australian film industry learning to walk (see the movie 'Stone' for a similar feel, including Hugh Keyes-Burns as another outlaw bikie). Also note that MM1 created Mel Gibson.

The camera work, the sounds of MM1, it is like the music of the early 80’s. Lots of new directions and experimenting and you could start with nothing but a bit of talent and heart. Until “the market” (which is an ass) began deciding what it wanted and then all creativity was restricted to what the market wanted to pay for… Clarification/creation of genre and the development of formula etc.

The bit in the Fury Road preview where he says “...hard to know who was more crazy…” I'm expecting the next bit to go into deep warrior/loner philosophy, but then he says “me or them”… And it all feels a bit 'monster truck' entertainment - no thinking required.
It’s kind of anti-climactic how he says it. And the visuals that go with that part of the preview make me think “Uh-oh, this is not going to be what I hoped for”… But I’ll let it unfold and find the gems buried in the pile of Hollywood big budget.

Speaking of which, it must be remembered that Mad Max 1 was a labour of love, almost zero budget relatively speaking. That caravan (trailer) that gets totaled in MM1 actually belonged to one of the directors - can’t remember who.

The other thing that strikes me about this is that MM1 was about revenge. But also revenge with justice inquiry... The path of male solitude etc. This is carried into Mad Max II where the wanderer/samurai is further developed.

Max, the survivor, doesn’t really give a shit about the people in Mad Max II but there is a level There is a level of good to him - he is good, but not a 'good guy'. He watches the rape and murder of people at the start of MM2 without any real emotion (juxtaposed to the gyrocopter pilot who is very disturbed by it). Max just wants to 'get the gasoline'. He leter joins the group becasue has no choice but to join in the group. He is the loner, the warrior with the damaged but ultimately good heart.

Where am I going with this... The clip looks like he is the white knight saving virgins and falling in love with Charlese Thereon... Fuck I hope not... His motivation is to fuck up bad shit just because its not the world he wishes to live in, not 'for the love and adoration of women' or any other reward other than the journey. He's a warrior not a fucking white knight.

Hollywood has a sickening need to bring romance and male/female chemistry into everything now. When the world of the loner warrior doesn’t have a place for that. Check the old cowboy movies… They were awesome because they were about men doing man shit, no fucking romance and crap.

Also note that as time goes by and more romance is introduced into warrior stories, the hero’s become more beefcake and less images of real grit men. I fear that this new mad max will suffer a similar fate. As if Max isn’t complete until he finds love again…
Fuck that!

Why was John Wick such a good movie...? Simple, the women and puppies were all dead in the first 5 minutes. The rest of the movie, pure and simple man talking care of man shit. BTW, the female assassin played by Adrianne Palicki was originally a man but hollywood-ness made it into a chick as a token gesture to sften the truth about men taking care of their man shit.

[terra]

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[terra]

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[nafod]

U r gay

[nafod]

Watched the trailer again. At about the 2:00 minute mark there is a scene of a woman head-butting a much bigger guy. Goddamnit I hate all movies with head butting (now...it was still cool in the Road Warrior) but particularly ones where a chick head butts a guy. Bodes ill for the movie. If there is a scene where he walks away calmly while everything blows up behind him, all is lost. Or jumping down from a height and landing in a super tactical low crouch. Or holding his hands over his head but then pulling two guns off of his back and blazing away, after the bad Guy keeps talking instead of just putting him to death.

[terra]

... Sorry if the reference to your beloved monster trucks was challenging.

[Protobuilder]

I didn't see the original and am not going to see this rubbish either.

[bennyonesix]

Good shit terra! I did not know you had good red blood in your veins.

One distinction and it's not a quibble. The monster truck thing is wrong: WWE-ification is better. Monster Truck Races are not ironic or meta. They are what they appear to be. I think what you sense is the self-awareness and glorification of falseness that permeates US media and entertainment.

Cheers

[bennyonesix]

You know terra, I have to disagree with you.

Mad Max the movie was about the Id. That primal thing we all have: the death wish, the drive to collapse distinctions and the love of suffering and wounding for their own sakes...

Miller's message seems to be that the more one fights the Id, the worse monsters it throws up... Perhaps, the best way is to leave it be like Max does with the rape scene you mention... Accept that it exists and can not be eradicated and keep one's distance...

[terra]

For me it was the journey back to the self and how the path may be both challenged and/or enriched through experiences and one's adaptation to them as they present. I cannot disagree with your view, though it is not mine.

Could bullshit on about this movie for far too long. Must sleep.

[nafod]

I hope they have a new feral boy.

"In time, I came to be the leader of my tribe."

That's what made the movie awesome.

[DARTH]

[quote="terra"]

He watches the rape and murder of people at the start of MM2 without any real emotion (juxtaposed to the gyrocopter pilot who is very disturbed by it)


Good Porn is hard to come by in the Wastelands

[seeahill]

The last 20 minutes of Road Warrior, imho, is the best car chase ever filmed. Even better than Bullit. So I'm looking forward to seeing if Director Miller can top himself.

part of the RW car chase

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_UtDuZaeZo[/youtube]

[seeahill]

duplication. Sorry.