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Herv100 wrote:Yeah, but this wasn't a problem when Bush and Obama made more executive orders than any presidents in history...
1) You sure you wanna die defending that hill?
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Meaningless metric. You have to consider the scope & nature of the executive order.
But I don't question that FDR set the record.

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Also, the impact of the orders may be additive. Each order tends to increase the power of the presidency. In that case, it's not "better" because Bush or Obama issued fewer orders than FDR did.
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Yes, I had actually seen that list years ago and had forgotten. I think it was Obama's rate of executive memos, which have the same legal force as executive actions, that is the highest rate thus far.
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Two guys moving the goal posts at the same time.....

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Coming from the guy who says the reason anybody dislikes Obama's presidency is racism.
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Yes I Have Balls wrote:Two guys moving the goal posts at the same time.....
Why the football analogy? Obviously, because you're racist.
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And now Trump is talking in front of a group of White Nationalists that believe in therapy to cure the gays. Shocked IGX hasn't booked Trump for an AMA.

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Herv100 wrote:Coming from the guy who says the reason anybody dislikes Obama's presidency is racism.
You have an active imagination. *shrug*

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Yes I Have Balls wrote:
Herv100 wrote:Coming from the guy who says the reason anybody dislikes Obama's presidency is racism.
You have an active imagination. *shrug*

You didn't actually say it but you implied it with your hateful anti-white and anti cognitively-othered dog whistle. Your conflating insanity with racism is despicable and incites violence against whites and the insane.
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DrDonkeyLove wrote:Johnson was my fallback protest vote. As a president he probably wouldn't be worse than the other two but he was unimpressive on Fox News Sunday and the passion for speech code enforcement isn't for me.

If I can't bring myself to pull the Trump lever, it might be time to write in Greg Glassman. America needs leader who's strong across broad time and many modalities. "Be stupid for me" 2016!
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Herv100 wrote:All you Johnson slurpers must have missed Rand Paul, who is more libertarian than Johnson could hope to be. In fact Johnson is a fake ass libertarian.
Rand Paul had his shot. A swing and a miss.
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Dude, weed: the Candidate.
He's still better on foreign policy than the warmongering arms merchant, or the reality TV star.
I'll take the stoner fuck up over the buffoon and the woman who seems ready to start WWIII. How is that Russia Reset working out?
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The real answer is reining in the executive branch and restoring the checks and balances Congress is supposed to provide.

It shouldn't matter this much which person gets elected President every 4 years. That's not how our system is supposed to work and it's biting us all in the ass, either now or later.
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The Ginger Beard Man wrote:
Herv100 wrote:All you Johnson slurpers must have missed Rand Paul, who is more libertarian than Johnson could hope to be. In fact Johnson is a fake ass libertarian.
Rand Paul had his shot. A swing and a miss.
Yes, and Johnson will miss as well, while at the same time confuse people as to what libertarian means since he isn't one. He said Obama's Supreme Court pick was a good one. LOL
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TerryB wrote:The real answer is reining in the executive branch and restoring the checks and balances Congress is supposed to provide.

It shouldn't matter this much which person gets elected President every 4 years. That's not how our system is supposed to work and it's biting us all in the ass, either now or later.
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TerryB wrote:The real answer is reining in the executive branch and restoring the checks and balances Congress is supposed to provide.

It shouldn't matter this much which person gets elected President every 4 years. That's not how our system is supposed to work and it's biting us all in the ass, either now or later.
In theory, I agree.

In practice, the media & their dupes, the public, have neutered Congress.
Impeachment was a big loser for the Republican Congress and so was the Budget Shutdown a few years ago. So there go the impeachment powers and the power of the purse. There's nothing left except to block any legislation the out-of-power party proposes.

It's time to seriously look at Mark Levin's idea about a Convention of the States. See Article V of the Constitution.
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Power is always hierarchical, and ultimately always centralizes onto one man. Could be a president, monarch, chief of the politburo.....whatever.

Nobody's ever figured out a way to get round this. Not that I think it should be gotten around. It's seems to be a natural emanation of our, well, nature.

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Yes. That was the motivation for Checks & Balances in the US system. It's just that some folks have gamed the system.
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johno wrote:
TerryB wrote:The real answer is reining in the executive branch and restoring the checks and balances Congress is supposed to provide.

It shouldn't matter this much which person gets elected President every 4 years. That's not how our system is supposed to work and it's biting us all in the ass, either now or later.
In theory, I agree.

In practice, the media & their dupes, the public, have neutered Congress.
Impeachment was a big loser for the Republican Congress and so was the Budget Shutdown a few years ago. So there go the impeachment powers and the power of the purse. There's nothing left except to block any legislation the out-of-power party proposes.

It's time to seriously look at Mark Levin's idea about a Convention of the States. See Article V of the Constitution.
That whiney mofo is now a Trumper. Mark's joined the Dark Side. Who's next, Glen Beck?


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johno wrote:It's time to seriously look at Mark Levin's idea about a Convention of the States. See Article V of the Constitution.
Unless Trump could seriously blow up the entire system, and I have doubts about this, a Convention of States may be the best method to restore some system of checks & balances in the country. The thing is, I don't see how it could gain traction in the current media environment.
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With his Childcare proposal, Trump again demonstrates that he is another Big Government type.

The Convention of the States will be ignored the the media unless it gains some significant traction. Then it will be derided and attacked.

Its only hope is to go viral.
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johno wrote:With his Childcare proposal, Trump again demonstrates that he is another Big Government type.

The Convention of the States will be ignored the the media unless it gains some significant traction. Then it will be derided and attacked.

Its only hope is to go viral.
He once suggested a one-time wealth tax basically taking rich people's shit. The idea that he's in any way an actual conservative is cuckoo.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote:
johno wrote:With his Childcare proposal, Trump again demonstrates that he is another Big Government type.

The Convention of the States will be ignored the the media unless it gains some significant traction. Then it will be derided and attacked.

Its only hope is to go viral.
He once suggested a one-time wealth tax basically taking rich people's shit. The idea that he's in any way an actual conservative is cuckoo.
There's only one fiscal conservative in this race. Unfortunately, he doesn't hate gays or Mexicans, so the GOP wants nothing to do with him.
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Pinky wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
johno wrote:With his Childcare proposal, Trump again demonstrates that he is another Big Government type.

The Convention of the States will be ignored the the media unless it gains some significant traction. Then it will be derided and attacked.

Its only hope is to go viral.
He once suggested a one-time wealth tax basically taking rich people's shit. The idea that he's in any way an actual conservative is cuckoo.
There's only one fiscal conservative in this race. Unfortunately, he doesn't hate gays or Mexicans, so the GOP wants nothing to do with him.
Leave Hillary alone.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Pinky wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
johno wrote:With his Childcare proposal, Trump again demonstrates that he is another Big Government type.

The Convention of the States will be ignored the the media unless it gains some significant traction. Then it will be derided and attacked.

Its only hope is to go viral.
He once suggested a one-time wealth tax basically taking rich people's shit. The idea that he's in any way an actual conservative is cuckoo.
There's only one fiscal conservative in this race. Unfortunately, he doesn't hate gays or Mexicans, so the GOP wants nothing to do with him.
Leave Hillary alone.
Is there something about Illary's gender than I don't know?

I do know that she's not a fiscal conservative. You can't ask her for the time of day without her rattling off a list of 15 government policies that she will enact to improve our nation's ability to tell time.
"The biggest problems that we’re facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all."

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