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Re: Q for the Republicans

Post by Turdacious » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:47 am

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johno wrote:With his Childcare proposal, Trump again demonstrates that he is another Big Government type.

The Convention of the States will be ignored the the media unless it gains some significant traction. Then it will be derided and attacked.

Its only hope is to go viral.
He once suggested a one-time wealth tax basically taking rich people's shit. The idea that he's in any way an actual conservative is cuckoo.
The idea that he takes passing the childcare policy seriously is cuckoo. The pricetag on that thing scares even Bernie Sanders.
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Re: Q for the Republicans

Post by Yes I Have Balls » Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:49 pm

Usually when a Presidential candidate admits to lying for 5 years about a racist conspiracy theory, we don't high-five them.

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Re: Q for the Republicans

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Yes I Have Balls wrote:Usually when a Presidential candidate admits to lying for 5 years about a racist conspiracy theory, we don't high-five them.
I didn't watch it, but who were the veterans who allied themselves with the Birther-in-Chief?
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Re: Q for the Republicans

Post by Yes I Have Balls » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:34 pm

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Yes I Have Balls wrote:Usually when a Presidential candidate admits to lying for 5 years about a racist conspiracy theory, we don't high-five them.
I didn't watch it, but who were the veterans who allied themselves with the Birther-in-Chief?
Not sure. A couple of 70+ year old MOH winners though.

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Re: Q for the Republicans

Post by johno » Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:42 pm

I'm waiting for Trump to blurt out the truth about women in Combat Arms...of course, he would completely lose the female college grad vote. ("I know women can fight, I've seen GI Jane and Buffy the Vampire Slayer.")

BUT I would vote multiple times for him if he did that, as would most other Combat Arms vets.

BUTT: There are so many vets in the world, you can find a handful who support any/every position imaginable. Think Jessie Ventura, spread through the political spectrum.
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Re: Q for the Republicans

Post by Yes I Have Balls » Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:43 pm

Seriously, Trump would be so fucking at home here.

He just suggested that Clinton's Secret Service bodyguards "...should drop all weapons. They should disarm immediately." Followed by, "Take their guns away, let's see what happens to her."

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Re: Q for the Republicans

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Yes I Have Balls wrote:Usually when a Presidential candidate admits to lying for 5 years about a racist conspiracy theory, we don't high-five them.
You mean the guy who got every major outlet to cover a hotel opening? That's DB faking his own death on DD level trolling.
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Re: Q for the Republicans

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Yes I Have Balls wrote:Seriously, Trump would be so fucking at home here.

He just suggested that Clinton's Secret Service bodyguards "...should drop all weapons. They should disarm immediately." Followed by, "Take their guns away, let's see what happens to her."
Are you with Tim Kaine in thinking that Trump was inciting violence against Queen George or did you get the implication that he was making a 2nd amendment related dig at lib hypocrisy when it comes to gun protection?

The news media was in quite a froth this morning about this and the way he played them with the birtherism announcement. Should we call it the Sidney Blumenthal birtherism issue?
It now looks like those "harsh attacks" that Blumenthal spread included birtherism. James Asher, former editor of McClatchy's DC bureau alleged Friday that Blumenthal had in fact directly brought the allegations to the newspaper chain in 2008 and asked them to investigate.

Blumenthal denied that he'd spread the rumor in an email to the Boston Globe. But later in the day, McClatchy itself made it clear that the charge has merit. In fact the chain sent a reporter to Kenya at Blumenthal's urging, to look into what he had to say "and that reporter determined that the allegation was false."
Speaking of racist "othering" of our president, here's a blast from the past from the liberal press at Politico
Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign Monday of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" by circulating a photo as an attempted smear.
Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.)....“On the very day that Senator Clinton is giving a speech about restoring respect for America in the world, her campaign has engaged in the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we’ve seen from either party in this election. This is part of a disturbing pattern that led her county chairs to resign in Iowa, her campaign chairman to resign in New Hampshire, and it’s exactly the kind of divisive politics that turns away Americans of all parties and diminishes respect for America in the world," said Plouffe.
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Re: Q for the Republicans

Post by johno » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:11 pm

Yes I Have Balls wrote: [Trump] just suggested that Clinton's Secret Service bodyguards "...should drop all weapons. They should disarm immediately." Followed by, "Take their guns away, let's see what happens to her."
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Re: Q for the Republicans

Post by nafod » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:58 pm

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Yes I Have Balls wrote:Seriously, Trump would be so fucking at home here.

He just suggested that Clinton's Secret Service bodyguards "...should drop all weapons. They should disarm immediately." Followed by, "Take their guns away, let's see what happens to her."
Are you with Tim Kaine in thinking that Trump was inciting violence against Queen George or did you get the implication that he was making a 2nd amendment related dig at lib hypocrisy when it comes to gun protection?

The news media was in quite a froth this morning about this and the way he played them with the birtherism announcement. Should we call it the Sidney Blumenthal birtherism issue?
It now looks like those "harsh attacks" that Blumenthal spread included birtherism. James Asher, former editor of McClatchy's DC bureau alleged Friday that Blumenthal had in fact directly brought the allegations to the newspaper chain in 2008 and asked them to investigate.

Blumenthal denied that he'd spread the rumor in an email to the Boston Globe. But later in the day, McClatchy itself made it clear that the charge has merit. In fact the chain sent a reporter to Kenya at Blumenthal's urging, to look into what he had to say "and that reporter determined that the allegation was false."
Speaking of racist "othering" of our president, here's a blast from the past from the liberal press at Politico
Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign Monday of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" by circulating a photo as an attempted smear.
Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.)....“On the very day that Senator Clinton is giving a speech about restoring respect for America in the world, her campaign has engaged in the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we’ve seen from either party in this election. This is part of a disturbing pattern that led her county chairs to resign in Iowa, her campaign chairman to resign in New Hampshire, and it’s exactly the kind of divisive politics that turns away Americans of all parties and diminishes respect for America in the world," said Plouffe.
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She never said said he wasn't American and born in the USA, fired whoever it was who said he was, and then didn't spend 5 years, thousands of tweets, and loud claims of "investigators in Hawaii finding all kinds of shit".

This issue for me is what made Trump fall into the "no fucking way" bucket from the get-go. Everything else just confirmed the stench.
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Re: Q for the Republicans

Post by DrDonkeyLove » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:14 pm

nafod wrote:
DrDonkeyLove wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Seriously, Trump would be so fucking at home here.

He just suggested that Clinton's Secret Service bodyguards "...should drop all weapons. They should disarm immediately." Followed by, "Take their guns away, let's see what happens to her."
Are you with Tim Kaine in thinking that Trump was inciting violence against Queen George or did you get the implication that he was making a 2nd amendment related dig at lib hypocrisy when it comes to gun protection?

The news media was in quite a froth this morning about this and the way he played them with the birtherism announcement. Should we call it the Sidney Blumenthal birtherism issue?
It now looks like those "harsh attacks" that Blumenthal spread included birtherism. James Asher, former editor of McClatchy's DC bureau alleged Friday that Blumenthal had in fact directly brought the allegations to the newspaper chain in 2008 and asked them to investigate.

Blumenthal denied that he'd spread the rumor in an email to the Boston Globe. But later in the day, McClatchy itself made it clear that the charge has merit. In fact the chain sent a reporter to Kenya at Blumenthal's urging, to look into what he had to say "and that reporter determined that the allegation was false."
Speaking of racist "othering" of our president, here's a blast from the past from the liberal press at Politico
Obama campaign manager David Plouffe accused the Clinton campaign Monday of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" by circulating a photo as an attempted smear.
Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.)....“On the very day that Senator Clinton is giving a speech about restoring respect for America in the world, her campaign has engaged in the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we’ve seen from either party in this election. This is part of a disturbing pattern that led her county chairs to resign in Iowa, her campaign chairman to resign in New Hampshire, and it’s exactly the kind of divisive politics that turns away Americans of all parties and diminishes respect for America in the world," said Plouffe.
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She never said said he wasn't American and born in the USA, fired whoever it was who said he was, and then didn't spend 5 years, thousands of tweets, and loud claims of "investigators in Hawaii finding all kinds of shit".

This issue for me is what made Trump fall into the "no fucking way" bucket from the get-go. Everything else just confirmed the stench.
I'm probably voting for him but I can't deny the stench. I just think she's the stenchier of the two.

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Looks like the Clinton's sacrificial lamb in Iowa was fired but trusted confidante Sidney Blumenthal was neck deep in the vile racist "othering" according to McClatchyDC and McClatchy is far from being an alt-right source.
Patti Solis Doyle, Clinton’s campaign manager during part of the 2008 race, told CNN on Friday that an Iowa campaign worker had passed on an email about the birther conspiracy and that Clinton quickly fired him.

Solis Doyle said she’d called Obama campaign official David Plouffe at the time “to apologize and basically say that this was not coming from us. It was a rogue volunteer coordinator.”

Phil Singer, Clinton’s 2008 campaign press secretary, said by email Friday: “The idea that the Hillary Clinton campaign had anything to do with spreading the birther issue has as much credibility as the birther issue itself: none. It didn’t happen.”

Meanwhile, former McClatchy Washington Bureau Chief James Asher tweeted Friday that Blumenthal had “told me in person” that Obama was born in Kenya.
No wonder the Obama administration refused to allow Hillary to hire Blumenthal at the state department. This is the same Sidney Blumenthal whose smudgy fingerprints are all over the Libyan debacle. Hating on Trump birtherism has merit but the evidence shows that the "otherings" of Obama based on his African roots started with the Clintons and was approved by super slimy associates deep inside Clintonland.
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Re: Q for the Republicans

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the "othering" LOL
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Re: Q for the Republicans

Post by Yes I Have Balls » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:55 pm

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Yes I Have Balls wrote:Are you with Tim Kaine in thinking that Trump was inciting violence against Queen George or did you get the implication that he was making a 2nd amendment related dig at lib hypocrisy when it comes to gun protection?
I think that in a rally where the crowd is screaming "Lock her up!" and "Trump that Bitch!" that the implication Trump is making is "Let's see how tough she is without protection." It's the obscene level of anti-Clinton violent rhetoric that puts Trumps words into context for me.

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Re: Q for the Republicans

Post by Turdacious » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:42 pm

Yes I Have Balls wrote:
DrDonkeyLove wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Are you with Tim Kaine in thinking that Trump was inciting violence against Queen George or did you get the implication that he was making a 2nd amendment related dig at lib hypocrisy when it comes to gun protection?
I think that in a rally where the crowd is screaming "Lock her up!" and "Trump that Bitch!" that the implication Trump is making is "Let's see how tough she is without protection." It's the obscene level of anti-Clinton violent rhetoric that puts Trumps words into context for me.
This is nothing. Check out the Jefferson Adams campaign. Both sides were IGx approved during that one.
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Post by Pinky » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:42 pm

Turdacious wrote: This is nothing. Check out the Jefferson Adams campaign. Both sides were IGx approved during that one.
I'm having the hardest time finding any of their commercials online. Can you post a YouTube video or something?
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Pinky wrote:
Turdacious wrote: This is nothing. Check out the Jefferson Adams campaign. Both sides were IGx approved during that one.
I'm having the hardest time finding any of their commercials online. Can you post a YouTube video or something?
Trump looks good compared to pre-industrial candidates.
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Post by Yes I Have Balls » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:53 pm

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/e ... .lb40RVgko

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You frothing, libtard piece of shit Islamic dog,” the caller, identified only as “Alan,” is heard saying in the ad, while a transcript of his rant runs along the bottom of the screen. “Vote for the pathological lying criminal you fucking piece of shit … and get out of our country … while you’re at it, got back and get fucked by your dirtbag Islamic terror scum friends. Slut.

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Post by Turdacious » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:45 pm

One thing I noticed while driving across the country over the last week-- very few Trump signs and even fewer Hillary signs. Judging by the signs overall, the most important races nationwide are for sheriff.
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This thread and the"right now I'm drinking" thread are closely related
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Post by Turdacious » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:19 am

nafod wrote:This thread and the"right now I'm drinking" thread are closely related
Smuggled it out. I'm in a different people's republic now.
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Yes I Have Balls wrote:Seriously, Trump would be so fucking at home here.

He just suggested that Clinton's Secret Service bodyguards "...should drop all weapons. They should disarm immediately." Followed by, "Take their guns away, let's see what happens to her."
No guns for her protection detail? Her SS detail can use what people in urban areas with strong gun control use after dark - their hands, primitive weapons or hide inside of their homes.

Leave it to a Progressive to admit that guns deter violent attacks while still saying that the common person doesn't need them and should not have them.
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Re: Q for the Republicans

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Yes I Have Balls wrote:
DrDonkeyLove wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Are you with Tim Kaine in thinking that Trump was inciting violence against Queen George or did you get the implication that he was making a 2nd amendment related dig at lib hypocrisy when it comes to gun protection?
I think that in a rally where the crowd is screaming "Lock her up!" and "Trump that Bitch!" that the implication Trump is making is "Let's see how tough she is without protection." It's the obscene level of anti-Clinton violent rhetoric that puts Trumps words into context for me.
Are you going to be OK? Words can be frightening things, especially when chained together into "rhetoric."
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Re: Q for the Republicans

Post by johno » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:08 am

TerryB wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:It's the obscene level of anti-Clinton violent rhetoric that puts Trumps words into context for me.
Are you going to be OK? Words can be frightening things, especially when chained together into "rhetoric."
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Post by Sua Sponte » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:04 am

nafod wrote: I get his point. Supply and demand. The jobs were going wanting, the guys from across the border filled the demand, society was glad to have their lawns mowed, artichokes harvested, kids watched, quesadillas prepared. Are they illegal? Yes. So are the 1,000,000 drivers commuting to Chicago every day doing 20 over the speed limit on the highways. You would be accurate in referring to them all as illegal drivers if that was your wont.

I remember someone protesting the reduced speed limit there by getting cars lined up line abreast and actually doing the speed limit. It gridlocked the network.
This analogy doesn't work. Presumably these drivers are licensed and insured. They may be engaged in something illegal but they are legally on the road. All they have to do to comply is slow down. If they are not legally there, they have to vacate the roadway. Likewise, illegal immigrants aren't legally in the country and just doing illegal labor. They have to leave the country to comply, not change jobs.

That said, most of what I've seen does suggest your last line is correct. This is largely beneficial to the country. The laws should reflect this. It should not be the case that the gov't is ignoring its own laws and its responsibilities. Hopefully this would relieve the intense financial burden on the border states. Tax the north and send the money this way.

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nafod wrote: I get his point. Supply and demand. The jobs were going wanting, the guys from across the border filled the demand, society was glad to have their lawns mowed, artichokes harvested, kids watched, quesadillas prepared. Are they illegal? Yes. So are the 1,000,000 drivers commuting to Chicago every day doing 20 over the speed limit on the highways. You would be accurate in referring to them all as illegal drivers if that was your wont.

I remember someone protesting the reduced speed limit there by getting cars lined up line abreast and actually doing the speed limit. It gridlocked the network.
This analogy doesn't work. Presumably these drivers are licensed and insured. They may be engaged in something illegal but they are legally on the road. All they have to do to comply is slow down. If they are not legally there, they have to vacate the roadway. Likewise, illegal immigrants aren't legally in the country and just doing illegal labor. They have to leave the country to comply, not change jobs.

That said, most of what I've seen does suggest your last line is correct. This is largely beneficial to the country. The laws should reflect this. It should not be the case that the gov't is ignoring its own laws and its responsibilities. Hopefully this would relieve the intense financial burden on the border states. Tax the north and send the money this way.
Very simply, and like every other country in the world, if a foreign national is here illegally he or she has committed a serious crime. In the US it is actually a felony. Should all 12-30 million go home? That has to be the opening position, but i think it is worth offering worker visas for seasonal workers and conditional amnesty for those who register within 60 days, pass a background check, and understand they get no benefits. And if they commit a crime they go to jail and then home to their native country. And the golden enchilada, they NEVER get citizenship unless they go home and get in line like everybody else. Then we see if "keeping families together" or expanding the Democrat party is really what is the priority. Not holding my breath.
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