China is the Enemy

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Post by Schlegel » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:59 am

Wow, the NBA player take on china continues to dazzle. I never thought our sportsball players would piss away their credibility quite this fast. Next time Lebron protests a cop killing somebody send him $5 cause that appears to be his per capita rate to shut up about injustice.
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Post by Turdacious » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:09 am

Unwoke Fatty needs to be educated by his betters, this is clearly.
As LeBron James spoke, the frustration in his tone and body language increasingly grew.

The Los Angeles Lakers star spent the past week on a preseason trip in China, and the concerns went beyond basketball. It also included the Chinese government and citizens taking offense to Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey tweeting out support for Hong Kong pro-democracy protesters just before the trip started.

"I don’t want to get in a word or sentence feud with Daryl Morey. But I believe he wasn’t educated on the situation at hand and he spoke," James said before the Lakers’ preseason game against the Golden State Warriors on Monday at Staples Center. "So many people could have been harmed, not only physically or financially, but emotionally and spiritually. Just be careful what we tweet, what we say and what we do. We do have freedom of speech, but there can be a lot of negative things that come with that too."

James stressed that he did not consider Morey to be "misinformed" about his understanding of the Hong Kong protests. Instead, James believed Morey remained "misinformed" on how China would react to his tweet. James reiterated that message in a pair of tweets shortly after speaking to reporters.

"I believe he was misinformed or not really educated on the situation," James said of Morey. "If he was, so be it. I have no idea, but that’s my belief. When you say things or do things, you’re doing it and know the things that can be affected by it and the families and individuals that can be affected by it. Sometimes it can be changed as well. Sometimes social media is not a proper way to go about things as well. That’s just my belief."
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Post by nafod » Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:13 pm

When you say things or do things, you’re doing it and know the things that can be affected by it and the families and individuals that can be affected by it. Sometimes it can be changed as well.
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Re: China is the Enemy

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Wow, the NBA player take on china continues to dazzle. I never thought our sportsball players would piss away their credibility quite this fast. Next time Lebron protests a cop killing somebody send him $5 cause that appears to be his per capita rate to shut up about injustice.
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Re: China is the Enemy

Post by Fat Cat » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:46 pm

40 Months for Chinese National Conspiring to Illegally Export Military and Space Technology to China

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/chinese- ... -and-space
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Post by Sua Sponte » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:38 pm

That doesn't even kinda, sorta scratch the surface of the military and commercial espionage the Chinese have been involved in. Add this to the training of their students in our doctoral programs and we've pretty much not only had stolen away from under our noses trillions of dollars in research, we then provided the pathway to their technological future. Infuriating.

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Re: China is the Enemy

Post by Fat Cat » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:49 am

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That doesn't even kinda, sorta scratch the surface of the military and commercial espionage the Chinese have been involved in. Add this to the training of their students in our doctoral programs and we've pretty much not only had stolen away from under our noses trillions of dollars in research, we then provided the pathway to their technological future. Infuriating.
While I agree, I am using this thread to document as many instances as I can, and reach as many people as I can, with one simple message: China is the Enemy.

They are the great and threatening beast of our time which surely will devour us unless we destroy it first.
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Post by Turdacious » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:28 am

On Tuesday night, security guards at Philadelphia's Wells Fargo Center ejected a pair of fans from a preseason game between the Philadelphia 76ers and the Guangzhou Loong Lions, a Chinese team. The fans had been holding signs reading "Free Hong Kong," and NBC Philadelphia reported that the fans were heard chanting the same slogan during the game. Video of the incident quickly circulated on Twitter.

On Wednesday night, when the Guangzhou Loong Lions played a game in Washington, D.C., there were more protesters with more signs. One asked people to "Google Uighurs" in reference to the Muslim-minority group that's been systemically persecuted and forced into internment camps in western China. Others expressed support for the protests in Hong Kong. Again, the signs were confiscated and the fans were escorted from the arena.
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Re: China is the Enemy

Post by vern » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:44 pm

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Re: China is the Enemy

Post by Gene » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:49 pm

nafod wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:41 am
Our enemy???
"In that call, Trump also told Xi he would remain quiet on Hong Kong protests as trade talks progressed."
Meanwhile in Hong Kong, protesters know who (used to) represent freedom.

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The US isn't in a position to do any good in Hong Kong. If she had been elected instead of Trump then Hillary would be in the same position. The critics of this realistic policy would be different but not the realities that limit it.

Beijing has nuclear weapons. We are not going to go in. We do not have much influence through trade. We are not going to sacrifice Wall Street's profits on the altar of Human Rights. Trump won't do it. Hillary wouldn't have done it, especially after she had the TPP passed in Congress. China hated the TPP as bad as they hate Trump's tarrifs.

China is very sensitive to "outside meddling". Something to do with decades of foreign colonization, maybe? Example A being Hong Kong itself. The Party justifies all of its nonsense in Xianjing Province with this fear of "splittism" and "social disorder".

I am amazed at the stupidity of these people waving US flags. Beijing can cast them as "American hirelings" or "color revolutionaries". Traitors even.
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Re: China is the Enemy

Post by Gene » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:59 pm

What should the demonstrators do? Start a revolution or go home.

Their vandalism and disruption of daily life are an irritant to Beijing. They are an impediment to stress free life in Hong Kong.

Here is a brief video from the South China Morning Post of PLA soldiers cleaning up the street. Ordinary Hong Kong people are helping them do it.

The protesters are losing, they are limited to tossing things at the people fixing the street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qri9ac3E3dM
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Re: China is the Enemy

Post by Turdacious » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:25 am

What legitimacy the Communist Party possessed was based on the decades of economic growth inaugurated by Deng Xiaoping in 1978. But growth has slowed to its lowest level in decades as the Chinese workforce ages, low-hanging investment opportunities disappear, and the trade war with the United States reduces manufacturing output and sends supply lines to Vietnam and Mexico. Capital is fleeing China at a record pace as the bourgeoisie hedge against stagnation and turmoil.

For all of the Chinese government's much publicized investments in research and development and defense, and despite the size of its economy, per capita gross domestic product is $10,000, slightly less than that of the Russia Federation ($11,000) and a fraction of that of the United States ($65,000). Recent weeks have brought an uptick in bank runs. The government's response to slowdown has been to tighten state control. "Between 2012 and 2018, assets of state companies grew at more than 15 percent annually, well over twice the pace of expansion of China's GDP and double the pace of growth of gross domestic capital formation," writes Nicholas R. Lardy of the Peterson Institute for International Economics.
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Re: China is the Enemy

Post by nafod » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:20 pm

Gene wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:49 pm
nafod wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:41 am
Our enemy???
"In that call, Trump also told Xi he would remain quiet on Hong Kong protests as trade talks progressed."
Meanwhile in Hong Kong, protesters know who (used to) represent freedom.

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The US isn't in a position to do any good in Hong Kong...I am amazed at the stupidity of these people waving US flags. Beijing can cast them as "American hirelings" or "color revolutionaries". Traitors even.
Sure, but ideas have power. The US flag remains a crazy powerful symbol of freedom, even as lefties argue all the horrible things we’ve done means we are too morally bankrupt to tell anyone anything, and as righties argue a zero sum “America first” screw the world out of a buck mantra.

I agree that it is their fight to fight. W should give them our implicit backing.
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Re: China is the Enemy

Post by Gene » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:21 pm

nafod wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:20 pm
Sure, but ideas have power. The US flag remains a crazy powerful symbol of freedom, even as lefties argue all the horrible things we’ve done means we are too morally bankrupt to tell anyone anything, and as righties argue a zero sum “America first” screw the world out of a buck mantra.

I agree that it is their fight to fight. W should give them our implicit backing.
I agree with you above. There are many other ideas at play here. Some of them are strong.
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Her name was Ping Mei. She was a survivor of a Japanese terror bombing in Shanghai. Chinese were treated like total shit. Every Chinese child has this pounded into their heads.

Long before the first Japanese bomb landed foreign nations were parting out China. This is from 1898.
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China has lost so much face from foreign meddling. I think that they're not having any more of it.

The US Navy has been having piss contests in the S. China sea with the Chinese military. Now there are kids in Hong Kong waving the American flag? Do they understand the weight of history?

These protesters should wave the Hong Kong flag. Their flag, their land, their destiny.
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Re: China is the Enemy

Post by Sangoma » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:31 pm

nafod wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:20 pm
Gene wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:49 pm
nafod wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:41 am
Our enemy???
"In that call, Trump also told Xi he would remain quiet on Hong Kong protests as trade talks progressed."
The US flag remains a crazy powerful symbol of freedom
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Re: China is the Enemy

Post by Fat Cat » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:55 pm

GTFO with that America hating bullshit. As a country we are rife with problems, but they're all out there for everyone to criticize and correct. China is an amorphous excrescence of Han ethno-narcissim, slave labor, organ harvesting, forced abortions, ethnic replacement and open air prison camps.
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Re: China is the Enemy

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