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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by nafod » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:53 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 53df788745
When investors began to complain that they had paid the company large sums with little to show for it, they were threatened, according to interviews and court documents.

Mason said that after he began to complain, he got a call from Cooper, the CEO, who threatened to sue him for slander. “He really scared me,” Mason said. “You feel like you’re dealing with all these bigwigs.”

The Miami New Times, which published in an in-depth investigation of the company last year, reported that Cooper would sometimes tell people who had posted negative reviews of the company that he had security with specialized training in the Israeli martial art Krav Maga.

In an August 2015 email included in court documents, Whitaker wrote to a complainant who threatened to go to the Better Business Bureau, “I am assuming you understand that there could be serious civil and criminal consequences for you.” He noted he was a former U.S. attorney.

As he was advising World Patent Marketing, Whitaker ran a conservative watchdog group called the Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by powerlifter54 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:08 pm

Thud wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:49 am
powerlifter54 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:16 am
Stocking up on popcorn. Lots of Dems and Deep Staters scared out of their mind knowing their leaking classified materiel, lying to the FBI, and lying to the FISA Courts is about to get pursued.

As I have said for a long time, way more Dems going to jail than anybody in the Trump administration.

All good. And these Democratic Commitee Chairman are like gifts from heaven. Mad Max. Oh yeah.

I know you're in TX, but are you in Alex Jones' basement?
You might want to follow Sarah Carter and Sheryl Atkinson a bit more. I recommend stocking up on head protection and cool compresses because things are about to get very ugly.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Fat Cat » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:39 pm

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Mueller investigation is basically done, cnn says they are in the report writing phase and most investigators are now returned to their normal jobs. So there's not really anything to obstruct now. It's gonna be a damp squib, but get ready for the cries of "the new AG stopped Mueller's work prematurely"
That's what I've been reading. It's hard to look at the way this is shaping up and think that Mueller has developed some really jaw-dropping high crimes and misdemeanors that could fuel an impeachment.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Hanglow Joe » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:35 pm

Fat Cat, how did Hirono get 70% of the vote in HI?

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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Schlegel » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:42 pm

Fat Cat wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:39 pm
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Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:46 am
Mueller investigation is basically done, cnn says they are in the report writing phase and most investigators are now returned to their normal jobs. So there's not really anything to obstruct now. It's gonna be a damp squib, but get ready for the cries of "the new AG stopped Mueller's work prematurely"
That's what I've been reading. It's hard to look at the way this is shaping up and think that Mueller has developed some really jaw-dropping high crimes and misdemeanors that could fuel an impeachment.
Yeah, i think too many people worked on it to keep anything juicy from leaking a hint or two. It would just be too tempting for somebody, somewhere.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by nafod » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:48 pm

Schlegel wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:42 pm
Fat Cat wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:39 pm
Schlegel wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:46 am
Mueller investigation is basically done, cnn says they are in the report writing phase and most investigators are now returned to their normal jobs. So there's not really anything to obstruct now. It's gonna be a damp squib, but get ready for the cries of "the new AG stopped Mueller's work prematurely"
That's what I've been reading. It's hard to look at the way this is shaping up and think that Mueller has developed some really jaw-dropping high crimes and misdemeanors that could fuel an impeachment.
Yeah, i think too many people worked on it to keep anything juicy from leaking a hint or two. It would just be too tempting for somebody, somewhere.
Like so much of everything with Trump, it's people close to him that will get burned while he keeps on keeping on. I see Don Jr getting charged with perjury.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Fat Cat » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:04 pm

Hanglow Joe wrote:
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Fat Cat, how did Hirono get 70% of the vote in HI?
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by nafod » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:38 pm

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Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:53 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 53df788745
When investors began to complain that they had paid the company large sums with little to show for it, they were threatened, according to interviews and court documents.

Mason said that after he began to complain, he got a call from Cooper, the CEO, who threatened to sue him for slander. “He really scared me,” Mason said. “You feel like you’re dealing with all these bigwigs.”

The Miami New Times, which published in an in-depth investigation of the company last year, reported that Cooper would sometimes tell people who had posted negative reviews of the company that he had security with specialized training in the Israeli martial art Krav Maga.

In an August 2015 email included in court documents, Whitaker wrote to a complainant who threatened to go to the Better Business Bureau, “I am assuming you understand that there could be serious civil and criminal consequences for you.” He noted he was a former U.S. attorney.

As he was advising World Patent Marketing, Whitaker ran a conservative watchdog group called the Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust.
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The Federal Bureau of Investigation is conducting a criminal investigation of a Florida company accused of scamming millions from customers during the period that Matthew Whitaker, the acting U.S. attorney general, served as a paid advisory-board member, according to an alleged victim who was contacted by the FBI and other people familiar with the matter.

The investigation is being handled by the Miami office of the FBI and by the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, according to an email sent to the alleged victim last year by an FBI victim specialist. A recording on a phone line set up by the Justice Department to help victims said Friday the case remains active.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Turdacious » Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:58 am

Florida-- same as it ever was.
When Brenda Snipes took over the Broward Supervisor of Elections office in 2003, she was the figure with years of administrative experience who would steady an office that was reeling from what Gov. Jeb Bush called “incompetence” and “misfeasance.”

On Friday, following a court agreeing with a lawsuit brought by Gov. Rick Scott that Snipes had violated public records laws, she found herself the target of similar calls for her removal from office, and for the same reasons.

For 15 years, Snipes has served as Broward County’s elections chief, with mixed results. Long lines and vote counts that continued long after polls closed marred elections in 2002, 2004, 2006, 2012, 2016 and, of course, this year.

Among other issues:

-- A court ruled she had broken election law when she destroyed ballots from the 2016 election 12 months after it, instead of the 22 months required by federal law.
Broward elections supervisor illegally destroyed ballots in Wasserman Schultz race, judge rules

-- A medical marijuana amendment was left off some ballots in 2016.

-- Election results in the 2016 primary were posted on the elections office’s website before polls closed, another violation of election law.

-- In 2012, almost 1,000 uncounted ballots were discovered a week after the election

-- In 2004, some 58,000 mail-in ballots were not delivered to voters, leaving election officials to scramble to send new ones.

And now, after days passed in which Snipes could not or would not say how many ballots remained to be counted, and failed to give regular updates to the state every 45 minutes as required by law, she was hit with a lawsuit by Scott’s Senate campaign and the National Republican Senate Committee demanding she inform the public how many votes remained to be counted.

Snipes insists she is making sure all the votes are counted, and Democrats are asking for patience. But after years of long waits and unusual happenings around elections, Republicans say she is incompetent at best, corrupt at worst, and that she needs to go.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Thud » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:31 am

powerlifter54 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:08 pm
Thud wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:49 am
powerlifter54 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:16 am
Stocking up on popcorn. Lots of Dems and Deep Staters scared out of their mind knowing their leaking classified materiel, lying to the FBI, and lying to the FISA Courts is about to get pursued.

As I have said for a long time, way more Dems going to jail than anybody in the Trump administration.

All good. And these Democratic Commitee Chairman are like gifts from heaven. Mad Max. Oh yeah.

I know you're in TX, but are you in Alex Jones' basement?

You might want to follow Sarah Carter and Sheryl Atkinson a bit more. I recommend stocking up on head protection and cool compresses because things are about to get very ugly.
This is going to be good.
Very, very, very good.
Anything in particular from these gals you want to point to? You may be following this a lot closer than me, but from what I can tell a lot of the leaking seems to have come from repugs trying to get ahead of the story. And between Papadop and Steele there was more than enough justification for the FISA.

But however true any of that may be, Pugs have been squawking about this stuff as cover for months, what has you say something big is coming now? What's changed?
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Gene » Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:10 pm

Don't yet know. Arizona and Florida Senate races are still in play. Georgia and Florida governors elections are up in the air.

Looking forward to partisan moments from the Democrats in the Congress. They have 219 votes. Pelosi is an older woman, perhaps senile.

Pelosi is showing signs of senior moments. If the Democrats keep her they are stuck with her.

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I'm looking forward to Ocasio-Cortez and her antics. She's already whining about housing costs while forty of her colleagues live in their offices to save money. What is she gonna be like when the Old Boys Network treats her like a child? They'll do it just to log roll her, she won't take it well.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by JimZipCode » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:18 pm

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What is she gonna be like when the Old Boys Network treats her like a child? They'll do it just to log roll her, she won't take it well.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by powerlifter54 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:43 pm

Thud wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:31 am
powerlifter54 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:08 pm
Thud wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:49 am
powerlifter54 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:16 am
Stocking up on popcorn. Lots of Dems and Deep Staters scared out of their mind knowing their leaking classified materiel, lying to the FBI, and lying to the FISA Courts is about to get pursued.

As I have said for a long time, way more Dems going to jail than anybody in the Trump administration.

All good. And these Democratic Commitee Chairman are like gifts from heaven. Mad Max. Oh yeah.

I know you're in TX, but are you in Alex Jones' basement?

You might want to follow Sarah Carter and Sheryl Atkinson a bit more. I recommend stocking up on head protection and cool compresses because things are about to get very ugly.
This is going to be good.
Very, very, very good.
Anything in particular from these gals you want to point to? You may be following this a lot closer than me, but from what I can tell a lot of the leaking seems to have come from repugs trying to get ahead of the story. And between Papadop and Steele there was more than enough justification for the FISA.

But however true any of that may be, Pugs have been squawking about this stuff as cover for months, what has you say something big is coming now? What's changed?
The Paige surveillance and lying to investigators, along with mishandling of classified materiel will bring a lot of people down. Good.

Here are some selected entries:
2011 - U.S. intel community vastly expands its surveillance authority, giving itself permission to spy on Americans who do nothing more than “mention a foreign target in a single, discrete communication.” Intel officials also begin storing and entering into a searchable database sensitive intelligence on U.S. citizens whose communications are accidentally or “incidentally” captured during surveillance of foreign targets. Prior to this point, such intelligence was to be destroyed to protect privacy rights the U.S. citizens. Names of U.S. citizens are to remain “masked” –even to inside U.S. intel agencies.
2016 - Obama officials vastly expand their searches through NSA database for Americans and the content of their communications. In 2013, there were 9,600 searches involving 195 Americans. But in 2016, there are 30,355 searches of 5,288 Americans.
Justice Dept. associate deputy attorney general Bruce Ohr meets with Fusion GPS’ Christopher Steele, the Yemen-born ex-British spy leading anti-Trump political opposition research project.
January 2016: Democratic operative Ukrainian-American Chalupa tells a senior Democratic National Committee official that she feels there’s a Russia connection with Trump.
March 25, 2016: Ukrainian-American operative for Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chalupa meets with top Ukrainian officials in D.C. to “expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia,” according to Politico. Chalupa previously worked for the Clinton administration.
Ukrainian embassy proceeds to work “directly with reporters researching Trump, Manafort and Russia to point them in the right directions,” according to an embassy official (though other officials later deny engaging in election-related activities.)
March 29, 2016: Trump campaign hires Paul Manafort as manager of July Republican convention.
April 10, 2016: President Obama states Clinton did not intend to harm national security when she mishandled classified emails. FBI Director James Comey later concludes that Clinton should not face charges because she did not intend to harm national security.
FBI begins drafting Comey’s remarks closing Clinton email investigation. Clinton had not yet been interviewed.
May 23, 2016: FBI probe into Virginia governor and Clinton ally Terry McAuliffe becomes public. (McAuliffe is ultimately not charged with a crime.) Justice Department Inspector General confirms it’s looking into FBI’s Andrew McCabe for conflicts of interest in handling of Clinton and Gov. McAuliffe probes in light of McAuliffe directing campaign donations to McCabe’s wife.
FBI officials Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, text that Trump’s ascension in the campaign will bring “pressure…to finish” Clinton probe.
Nellie Ohr, wife of Justice Dept. associate deputy attorney general Bruce Ohr and former CIA worker, goes on the payroll of Fusion GPS. Assists with anti-Trump political opposition research. Husband, Bruce, reportedly fails to disclose her employer and her work in his conflict of interest disclosures.
Nellie Ohr applies for a ham radio license.
June 30, 2016: FBI circulates internal draft of public remarks for FBI Director Comey to announce closing of Clinton investigation. Draft refers to Clinton’s “extensive” use of her personal email, including “from the territory of sophisticated adversaries,” and a July 1, 2012 email to President Obama from Russia. The draft concludes it’s possible that hostile actors gained access to Clinton’s email account.
Comey’s remarks are revised. Replacing reference to “the President” with the phrase: “another senior government official.” That reference is also removed from the final draft.
July 1, 2016: Attorney General Lynch publicly states she’ll accept whatever FBI Director Comey recommends on Clinton Email investigation.
Lisa Page texts Peter Strzok, sarcastically commenting that Lynch’s proclamation is “a real profile in courage, since she knows no charges will be brought.”
July 2, 2016: FBI official Peter Strzok and other agents interview Clinton. They don’t record the interview. Two potential subjects of the investigation, Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson, are allowed to attend as Clinton’s lawyers.
Trump adviser Carter Page makes a business trip to Russia.
FISC (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court) rejects FBI request to wiretap Page.
Obama national security adviser Susan Rice shows increased interest in National Security Agency (NSA) intelligence material including “unmasked” Americans’ according to news reports referring to White House logs.
July 18-21, 2016: Republican National Convention
CIA operative Professor Halper meets with Trump campaign co-chair Sam Clovis offering his services as a foreign-policy adviser, according to The Washington Post. Halper would later offer to hire Carter Page. (This was just learned on May 20, 2018)
Late July 2016: FBI agent Peter Strzok opens counterintelligence investigation based on Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos.
Democratic operative and Ukrainian-American Chalupa leaves the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to work full-time on her research into Manafort, Trump and Russia; and provides off-the-record guidance to “a lot of journalists.”
July 22, 2016: WikiLeaks begins publishing hacked Democratic National Committee emails. WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange denies the email source is Russian.
July 25-28, 2016: Democratic National Convention
July 31, 2016: FBI begins counterintelligence investigation regarding Russia.
Summer 2016: Nellis Ohr, wife of Justice Dept. associate deputy attorney general Bruce Ohr is still on the payroll of Fusion GPS.
Approx. Aug. 2016: FBI initiates a new wiretap against ex-Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort, according to CNN, which extends at least through early 2017.
Sept. 2016: Fusion GPS’ Steele becomes FBI source and uses associate deputy attorney general Bruce Ohr as point of contact. Steele tells Ohr that he’s “desperate that Donald Trump not get elected.”
President Obama warns Russia not to interfere in the U.S. election
Sept. 2, 2016: FBI officials Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text that “[President Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”
Mid-to-late Sept. 2016: Fusion GPS’ Christopher Steele’s FBI contact tells him the agency wants to see his opposition research “right away” and offers to pay him $50,000, according to the New York Times, for solid corroboration of his salacious, unverified claims. Steele flies to Rome, Italy to meet with FBI and provide a “full briefing.”
Sept. 22, 2016: Clinton computer aide Brian Pagliano is held in contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with subpoena.
Sept. 23, 2016: It’s revealed that Justice Department has granted five Clinton officials immunity from prosecution: former chief of staff Cheryl Mills, State Department staffers John Bentel and Heather Samuelson, and Clinton computer workers Paul Combetta and Brian Pagliano.
Sept. 26, 2016: Obama administration asks secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) court to allow National Counter Terrorism Center to access sensitive, “unmasked” intel on Americans acquired by FBI and NSA. (The Court later approves the request.)
Early October 2016: Fusion GPS’ Christopher Steele, the Yemen-born author of anti-Trump “dossier,” meets in New York with David Corn, Washington-bureau chief of Mother Jones.
According to The Guardian, the FBI submits a more narrowly focused FISA wiretap request to replace one turned down in June to monitor four Trump associates.
Oct. 18, 2016: President Obama advises Trump to “stop whining” after Trump tweeted the election could be rigged. “There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even — you could even rig America’s elections,” said Obama. He also calls Trump’s “flattery” of Russian president Putin “unprecedented.”
Oct. 19, 2016: Ex-British spy Christopher Steele writes his last memo for anti-Trump “dossier” political opposition research provided to FBI. The FBI reportedly authorizes payment to Steele. Fusion GPS has reportedly paid him $160,000.
Approx. Oct. 21, 2016: For the second time in several months, Justice Department and FBI apply to wiretap former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. This time, the request is approved based on new FBI “evidence,” including parts of Fusion GPS’ “Steele dossier” and Michael Isikoff Yahoo article. The FBI doesn’t tell the court that Trump’s political opponent— the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee— funded the “evidence.”
Oct. 24, 2016: Benjamin Wittes, confidant of FBI Director James Comey and editor-in-chief of the blog Lawfare, writes of the need for an “insurance policy” in case Trump wins. It’s the same phrase FBI officials Lisa Page and Peter Strzok had used when discussing the possibility of a Trump win.
Oct. 26, 2016: Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court holds hearing with Obama intel officials over their “702” surveillance violations. The judge criticizes NSA for “institutional lack of candor” and states “this is a very serious Fourth Amendment issue.”
FBI terminates its relationship with Steele because Steele had leaked his FBI involvement in Mother Jones article.
Steele reportedly maintains backchannel contact with Justice Dept. through Deputy Associate Attorney General Bruce Ohr.
Oct. 31, 2016: New York Times reports FBI is investigating Trump and found no illicit connections to Russia.
Nov. 8, 2016: Trump is elected president.
Nov. 8, 2016: Trump is elected president. Obama National Security Adviser Susan Rice’s interest in NSA materials accelerates, according to later news reports.
Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr meets with Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson shortly after election.
The FBI interviews Ohr about his ongoing contacts with Fusion GPS.
Nov. 2016: National Security Agency Mike Rogers meets with president-elect Trump and is criticized for “not telling the Obama administration.”
Nov. 17, 2016: Trump moves his Friday presidential team meetings out of Trump Tower.
Nov. 18-20, 2016: Sen. John McCain and his longtime adviser, David Kramer–an ex-U.S. State Dept. official–attend a security conference in Halifax, Nova Scotia where former UK ambassador to Russia Sir Andrew Wood tells them about the Fusion GPS anti-Trump dossier. (Kramer is affiliated with the anti-Russia “Ukraine Today” media organization). They discuss confirming the info has reached top levels of FBI for action.
Nov. 28, 2016: Sen. McCain associate David Kramer flies to London to meet Christopher Steele for a briefing on the anti-Trump research. Afterward, Fusion GPS’ Glenn Simpson gives Sen. McCain a copy of the “dossier.” Steele also passes anti-Trump info to top UK government official in charge of national security. Sen. McCain soon arranges a meeting with FBI Director Comey.
Late Nov. 2016: Justice Dept. official Bruce Ohr officially tells FBI about his contacts with Fusion GPS’ Christopher Steele and about Ohr’s wife’s contract work for Fusion GPS.
Dec. 2016: Text messages between FBI officials Strzok and Page are later said to be “lost” due to a technical glitch beginning at this point.
Dec. 8 or 9, 2016: Sen. John McCain meets with FBI Director Comey at FBI headquarters and hands over Fusion GPS anti-Trump research, elevating the FBI’s investigation into the matter. The FBI compiles a classified two-page summary and attaches it to intel briefing note on Russian cyber-interference in election for President Obama.
Dec. 15, 2016: Obama intel officials “incidentally” spy on Trump officials meeting with the United Arab Emirates crown prince in Trump Tower. This is taken to mean the government was wiretapping the prince and “happened to capture” Trump officials communicating with him at Trump Tower. Identities of Americans accidentally captured in such surveillance are strictly protected or “masked” inside intel agencies for constitutional privacy reasons.
Obama National Security Adviser Susan Rice secretly “unmasks” names of the Trump officials, officially revealing their identities. They reportedly include: Steve Bannon, Jared Kushner and Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.
Director of National Intelligence Clapper expands rules to allow the National Security Agency (NSA) to widely disseminate classified surveillance material within the government.
Dec. 29, 2016: President Obama imposes sanctions against Russia for its alleged election interference.
President-elect Trump national security adviser Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn speaks with Russian Ambassador to U.S. Sergey Kislyak. The call is wiretapped by U.S. intelligence and later leaked to the press
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Thud » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:39 pm

Meh, this is trying to conflate procedural stuff w/ Trump’s possible treason. The tone of such procedural stuff is inflated while the shit against Trump is downplayed. (Note the existing confessions and convictions of high-level Trump staff.) As if treason and conspiracy should go unnoticed and left un-researched and un-investigated, let alone un-abetted. His providing the Russians classified Israeli intel at a secret meeting, meeting alone with Putin on issues his intel advisors are unaware of. Speaking routinely on an unsecured phone…

This will hold as much water as the rest of the cherry picking and alarmist hoodwinking Devin Nunes has been trying for months. Good luck with it though, I hope some Dems get the scorching slaps on the wrist you anticipate.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by powerlifter54 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:27 pm

Thud wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:39 pm
Meh, this is trying to conflate procedural stuff w/ Trump’s possible treason. The tone of such procedural stuff is inflated while the shit against Trump is downplayed. (Note the existing confessions and convictions of high-level Trump staff.) As if treason and conspiracy should go unnoticed and left un-researched and un-investigated, let alone un-abetted. His providing the Russians classified Israeli intel at a secret meeting, meeting alone with Putin on issues his intel advisors are unaware of. Speaking routinely on an unsecured phone…

This will hold as much water as the rest of the cherry picking and alarmist hoodwinking Devin Nunes has been trying for months. Good luck with it though, I hope some Dems get the scorching slaps on the wrist you anticipate.
If you are hanging your hat on Treason you have a long 6 years left ahead of you. Strozk and McCabe, however, probably a bit longer than that, even with good behavior.

But we will see. Great fun ahead as Page Civil lawsuit goes to Discovery.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Thud » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:48 pm

powerlifter54 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:27 pm
Thud wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:39 pm
Meh, this is trying to conflate procedural stuff w/ Trump’s possible treason. The tone of such procedural stuff is inflated while the shit against Trump is downplayed. (Note the existing confessions and convictions of high-level Trump staff.) As if treason and conspiracy should go unnoticed and left un-researched and un-investigated, let alone un-abetted. His providing the Russians classified Israeli intel at a secret meeting, meeting alone with Putin on issues his intel advisors are unaware of. Speaking routinely on an unsecured phone…

This will hold as much water as the rest of the cherry picking and alarmist hoodwinking Devin Nunes has been trying for months. Good luck with it though, I hope some Dems get the scorching slaps on the wrist you anticipate.
If you are hanging your hat on Treason you have a long 6 years left ahead of you. Strozk and McCabe, however, probably a bit longer than that, even with good behavior.

But we will see. Great fun ahead as Page Civil lawsuit goes to Discovery.
Pity they don't have a treasonous kingpin to squeal on like Flynn, Manafort, Cohen, Pecker, Weisselberg, et al, or they could get immunity too.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by JimZipCode » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:20 pm

Thud wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:39 pm
As if treason and conspiracy should go unnoticed and left un-researched and un-investigated, let alone un-abetted.
Un-abetted?

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Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:27 pm
But we will see. Great fun ahead as Page Civil lawsuit goes to Discovery.
Andrew or Lisa?
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Re: What to make of the election?

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JimZipCode wrote:
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Thud wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:39 pm
As if treason and conspiracy should go unnoticed and left un-researched and un-investigated, let alone un-abetted.
Un-abetted?


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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Fat Cat » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:57 pm

Thud wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:00 pm
JimZipCode wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:20 pm
Thud wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:39 pm
As if treason and conspiracy should go unnoticed and left un-researched and un-investigated, let alone un-abetted.
Un-abetted?

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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by nafod » Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:59 am

Fat Cat wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:57 pm
Thud wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:00 pm
JimZipCode wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:20 pm
Thud wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:39 pm
As if treason and conspiracy should go unnoticed and left un-researched and un-investigated, let alone un-abetted.
Un-abetted?

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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Turdacious » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:46 am

Congresswoman-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Tuesday kicked off her first day of new-member orientation by participating in a climate change protest at House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's office.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 987514002/

Not even one day into the job and already trying to piss off the boss? Somebody wants shitty committee assignments.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Gene » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:09 pm

Turdacious wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:46 am
Congresswoman-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Tuesday kicked off her first day of new-member orientation by participating in a climate change protest at House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's office.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 987514002/

Not even one day into the job and already trying to piss off the boss? Somebody wants shitty committee assignments.
She's endorsing San Fran Nan for Speaker. Someone got their mind made right.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Thud » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:46 pm

powerlifter54 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:08 pm
Thud wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:49 am
powerlifter54 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:16 am
Stocking up on popcorn. Lots of Dems and Deep Staters scared out of their mind knowing their leaking classified materiel, lying to the FBI, and lying to the FISA Courts is about to get pursued.

As I have said for a long time, way more Dems going to jail than anybody in the Trump administration.

All good. And these Democratic Commitee Chairman are like gifts from heaven. Mad Max. Oh yeah.

I know you're in TX, but are you in Alex Jones' basement?
You might want to follow Sarah Carter and Sheryl Atkinson a bit more. I recommend stocking up on head protection and cool compresses because things are about to get very ugly.
This is going to be good.
Very, very, very good.
Is this what all this anticipation was about?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4231 ... -to-an-end


“With the 115th Congress coming to a close, the investigation into decisions made by DOJ and FBI and related interviews conducted by the House Committee on the Judiciary and Committee on Oversight and Government Reform have, at least for the time being, been concluded,” Goodlatte wrote in a letter to Whitaker and Wray.

Goodlatte also released a press release praising the committees’ accomplishments with the probe, including the firings of “multiple high-ranking Justice Department employees.”


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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by nafod » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:48 pm

Thud wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:46 pm
powerlifter54 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:08 pm
Thud wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:49 am
powerlifter54 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:16 am
Stocking up on popcorn. Lots of Dems and Deep Staters scared out of their mind knowing their leaking classified materiel, lying to the FBI, and lying to the FISA Courts is about to get pursued.

As I have said for a long time, way more Dems going to jail than anybody in the Trump administration.

All good. And these Democratic Commitee Chairman are like gifts from heaven. Mad Max. Oh yeah.

I know you're in TX, but are you in Alex Jones' basement?
You might want to follow Sarah Carter and Sheryl Atkinson a bit more. I recommend stocking up on head protection and cool compresses because things are about to get very ugly.
This is going to be good.
Very, very, very good.
Is this what all this anticipation was about?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4231 ... -to-an-end


“With the 115th Congress coming to a close, the investigation into decisions made by DOJ and FBI and related interviews conducted by the House Committee on the Judiciary and Committee on Oversight and Government Reform have, at least for the time being, been concluded,” Goodlatte wrote in a letter to Whitaker and Wray.

Goodlatte also released a press release praising the committees’ accomplishments with the probe, including the firings of “multiple high-ranking Justice Department employees.”


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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by powerlifter54 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:59 pm

Congress was never what the Dems feared. New Year, New AG, declassified docs, new Special Prosecutor.

Better than Bowl Season.
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