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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:42 pm

newguy wrote:
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https://mobile.twitter.com/stillgray/st ... 6250926080

More mostly peacefull protests. A murder occurred. You can hear them identify a Trumper, and then immediately execute him. There's more video, multiple livestreams, apparently.
Hey now...maybe we should just wait for the facts to come out before we jump to any conclusions.
Absolutely. The DOJ should be crawling all over the place. Just like Holder would have done. The Feds should take over the City.

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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Fat Cat » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:45 pm

newguy wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:51 pm
Schlegel wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:49 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/stillgray/st ... 6250926080

More mostly peacefull protests. A murder occurred. You can hear them identify a Trumper, and then immediately execute him. There's more video, multiple livestreams, apparently.
Hey now...maybe we should just wait for the facts to come out before we jump to any conclusions.
LOL :drinkers:
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:19 am

Hilarious thread on Marco Rubio. I think it's a shot across his bow from Team Trump.

A few selections:


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Why is it that the SSCI made the same grave errors the Mueller Report made? Paul Singer is going to be the end of your career and you'll be back to hustling pro bono traffic court, and chasing the Cuban TS Escorts in South Miami. It's a long way to the bottom Little Marco

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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:19 pm

God I hate conservatives more than Liberals and Leftists.
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The conservative movement really could use the cleansing fire of a humiliating defeat. The hard question is how much of the country you're prepared to burn down to get that.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Fat Cat » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:54 pm

"Conservatism" at this point is a controlled opposition movement intended to keep any real right wing from taking hold in the USA. It's a sham, a canard, a false flag.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by nafod » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:59 pm

What do you mean by "real right wing"?
Don’t believe everything you think.

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Re: What to make of the election?

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Fat Cat wrote:
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"Conservatism" at this point is a controlled opposition movement intended to keep any real right wing from taking hold in the USA. It's a sham, a canard, a false flag.
It has been from inception. Buckley was CIA and part of the effort to defang urban Catholics. He also meant to defang the right wing of the GOP.

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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Fat Cat » Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:15 pm

Bennyonesix1 wrote:
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Fat Cat wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:54 pm
"Conservatism" at this point is a controlled opposition movement intended to keep any real right wing from taking hold in the USA. It's a sham, a canard, a false flag.
It has been from inception. Buckley was CIA and part of the effort to defang urban Catholics. He also meant to defang the right wing of the GOP.
I believe that, it's just a bit before my time. But here's an interview with Buckley and Ian D. Smith, Prime Minister of Rhodesia (1964-1979). Nothing I've seen draws a sharper contrast between the real right wing and fake right conservatard cuckolds.

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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:24 pm

He was a great great man.

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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Fat Cat » Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:40 am

Photos of the crowd waiting for Trump in Kenosha, WI.

WaPo: President Trump to visit Kenosha as local officials ask him to stay away

People of Kenosha: https://twitter.com/KatiePavlich/status ... 7715778561

B..bu...but the local officials told him not to come. LOL.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Fat Cat » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:43 am

nafod wrote:
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What do you mean by "real right wing"?
I’m sorry brah, I just saw this but will respond when I’m not on my phone. It’s a very good question.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Fat Cat » Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:48 pm

nafod wrote:
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What do you mean by "real right wing"?
First, what it is not. It is not conservatism, it is not reactionary, it is not fascist, it is not authoritarian, and it is not some type of statism. It is not, in any way, about preserving the status quo.

It is about the continuous development of higher forms of human life and expression. It celebrates distinctions between individuals, the sexes, the races, the nations, languages, music and all forms forms of expression. It's aims are wisdom, strength, and beauty, which it holds to be objective outcomes of nature.

The central idea of the Right is hierarchy, in eternal opposition to the central idea of the Left, which is egalitarianism, or more properly, equalism.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:13 pm

Fat Cat wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:48 pm
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What do you mean by "real right wing"?
First, what it is not. It is not conservatism, it is not reactionary, it is not fascist, it is not authoritarian, and it is not some type of statism. It is not, in any way, about preserving the status quo.

It is about the continuous development of higher forms of human life and expression. It celebrates distinctions between individuals, the sexes, the races, the nations, languages, music and all forms forms of expression. It's aims are wisdom, strength, and beauty, which it holds to be objective outcomes of nature.

The central idea of the Right is hierarchy, in eternal opposition to the central idea of the Left, which is egalitarianism, or more properly, equalism.
That's really very good man.

In my mind I think "A place for every man. And a man in every place."

But that leaves out or just implies that man can only fulfill himself within a hierarchy as you pointed out.

I'd also say that from the perspective on the Right, the Left seeks to invert the natural order. Which is probably the same thing as "equalism" but perhaps more accurate from the perspective of the Right?

Both sides see themselves as battling entropy. The Right sees entropy in increased and frenetic activity. For a man on the right, the activity engendered by the breakdown of hierarchy is pathological and like cancerous growth which ends with death. The Left sees hierarchy as heat death and seeks to free trapped energy or inject it into the system: i.e. ending repression/oppression etc etc

For me (and I realize how lunatic this sounds today) it all comes down to Usury. That is the primary entropic force and has been since Babylon. It is essentially a withdrawal of energy from the system. It sounds like crazy crankhood today but it's only been a hundred years or so that Usury (strictly defined) has been accepted as a good thing.

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Re: What to make of the election?

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Fat Cat wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:48 pm
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Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:59 pm
What do you mean by "real right wing"?
First, what it is not. It is not conservatism, it is not reactionary, it is not fascist, it is not authoritarian, and it is not some type of statism. It is not, in any way, about preserving the status quo.

It is about the continuous development of higher forms of human life and expression. It celebrates distinctions between individuals, the sexes, the races, the nations, languages, music and all forms forms of expression. It's aims are wisdom, strength, and beauty, which it holds to be objective outcomes of nature.

The central idea of the Right is hierarchy, in eternal opposition to the central idea of the Left, which is egalitarianism, or more properly, equalism.
I"m uncertain of how to consider hierarchy beyond honoring the virtuous and wise who best represent Nature.

Are there any individuals whom you'd consider exemplars of the right? Ben Franklin, Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, Lincoln, MLK, Elie Wiesel...others??

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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:56 pm

DrDonkeyLove... wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:27 pm
Fat Cat wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:48 pm
nafod wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:59 pm
What do you mean by "real right wing"?
First, what it is not. It is not conservatism, it is not reactionary, it is not fascist, it is not authoritarian, and it is not some type of statism. It is not, in any way, about preserving the status quo.

It is about the continuous development of higher forms of human life and expression. It celebrates distinctions between individuals, the sexes, the races, the nations, languages, music and all forms forms of expression. It's aims are wisdom, strength, and beauty, which it holds to be objective outcomes of nature.

The central idea of the Right is hierarchy, in eternal opposition to the central idea of the Left, which is egalitarianism, or more properly, equalism.
I"m uncertain of how to consider hierarchy beyond honoring the virtuous and wise who best represent Nature.

Are there any individuals whom you'd consider exemplars of the right? Ben Franklin, Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, Lincoln, MLK, Elie Wiesel...others??
You didn't ask me but in the political arena: Salazar (my favorite politician ever) and Franco and Codreanu and maybe Adenauer.

Philosophy: Aristotle and Anselm and St Thomas and DeMaistre and Maurras and anyone who advocated orthodox Catholic thought prior to Vatican II. It's difficult to find Protestant Rightists because of the influence of Henry VIII and Elizabeth and Burke who was a "conservative". But Cobbett would count. Fichte in a lot of ways.

Art: Pound, Dante, Eliot, Whyndam Lewis, Baudelaire believe it or not, lots more Right Wing artists than anything else.

Aurelius and Epictetus might of those you mentioned but the rest are lmao no.

EDIT

This was a really good question. One thing I want to add to the below is that the dichotomy of Right/Left is a new thing. I'm not even sure when it began to be used as I (and I think Fat) am using it. So, the number of self-consciously "Right-wing" ppl isn't huge. Of the below, I think Salazar may have seen himself as a Rightist idk. I am fairly sure Wyndham Lewis and Pound saw themselves that way. The rest? Prob not.

I'd also like to add C H Douglas the economist to the list. But he probably saw himself as some kind of post-Socialist.

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Re: What to make of the election?

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Twitter jumped hard on that execution vid

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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Fat Cat » Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:23 pm

Shafpocalypse Now wrote:
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Twitter jumped hard on that execution vid
What does that mean?
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Re: What to make of the election?

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Trump Approval Surges to 52% – Black Voter Approval Jumps to 45% in Race Against Joe Biden

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... ingbuttons

Interesting development. SPELLS has been dispatched to bring them back to the plantation, but he's got to host a take back the night march first.
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Re: What to make of the election?

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100% Antifa got merked: https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portl ... index.html

A Portland man who was killed Thursday night while authorities attempted to apprehend him appeared to admit he was responsible for the fatal shooting of a supporter of a right-wing group during clashes between pro-Trump groups and left-wing protesters in the Oregon city. The Portland protests shooting victim was identified as Aaron Danielson.

The US Marshals said a task force was attempting to arrest Michael Forest Reinoehl in Washington state. He was wanted by the Multnomah County Circuit Court on a charge of murder.

"Reinoehl was allegedly involved in an August 29 shooting incident in Portland, Oregon, that resulted in a death," US Marshals said.

The task force located him in Olympia and attempted to arrest him peacefully.

"Initial reports indicate the suspect produced a firearm, threatening the lives of law enforcement officers. Task force members responded to the threat and struck the suspect who was pronounced dead at the scene," the statement said.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Kazuya Mishima » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:04 pm

Antifa tears are sweet as honey.

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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by motherjuggs&speed » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:16 pm

The machine is throwing you a bone. At the right time they pull the appropriate plan out of a file, let's see, Troy, no not that one, here it is, Therma: Visibly squash a few of those people (fill in the flavor of the day) so your rage will be quelled. Now that you feel better you'll go back to being a good little cog.

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Re: What to make of the election?

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The machine is throwing you a bone. At the right time they pull the appropriate plan out of a file, let's see, Troy, no not that one, here it is, Therma: Visibly squash a few of those people (fill in the flavor of the day) so your rage will be quelled. Now that you feel better you'll go back to being a good little cog.
I'm intrigued but not quite sure I follow. Would you mind expanding on what you have said?
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Re: What to make of the election?

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Fat Cat wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:38 pm
Trump Approval Surges to 52% – Black Voter Approval Jumps to 45% in Race Against Joe Biden

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... ingbuttons

Interesting development. SPELLS has been dispatched to bring them back to the plantation, but he's got to host a take back the night march first.
Gateway Pundit. Rasmussen. Choose the propaganda that comforts you, comrade.

I was surprised Biden is crushing Trump among the military, but Trump's newly revealed sentiments will surely improve things for him.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by Grandpa's Spells » Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:02 pm

Fox News just confirmed the "vets are suckers" story. Awaiting the MAGA argument on how Kaepernick disrespects the troops but Trump is hunky dory.
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Re: What to make of the election?

Post by motherjuggs&speed » Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:09 pm

From time to time there will be an uprising of sentiment. People then join protests, take work time to go on social media (in an earlier time it was talking at the water cooler/coffee pot), and start to become a nuisance for the PIC. There will then be a visible act taken to get everyone back in place (I want an orderly line. No talking"), everyone talks about that for a few days, and then the humdrum settles down.

In this case, people are worried about the takeover of cities by mobs. So you have a few crackdowns (CHOP getting disbanded), some killings, some visible prosecutions, and then everyone is satisfied and goes back to the normal level of numb denial until the next Big Thing. Then the cycle starts again, rinse, repeat.


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