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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Fat Cat » Mon May 11, 2020 5:32 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05 ... ce=twitter

If true, widespread mask usage is almost free, allows an open economy, and could buy a ton of time. Unfortunately, to get to 80% it would require Republican leadership, which doesn't appear forthcoming.
How so? Do Republicans tend to run the most crowded areas in the US?
Republican population exceeds 20% almost everywhere.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Mon May 11, 2020 5:44 pm

Fats, you guys in Hawaii are winning the battle.

https://www.endcoronavirus.org/states
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Fat Cat » Mon May 11, 2020 6:31 pm

nafod wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 5:44 pm
Fats, you guys in Hawaii are winning the battle.

https://www.endcoronavirus.org/states
Our problem is that our main economic engine is tourism and we are now faced with the choice of opening up to you plague rats or completely collapsing our economy. And, even if we open up completely with no undue quarantine burdens on visitors, not many people will want to go on vacation in a devastated economic climate. It's bad.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Grandpa's Spells » Mon May 11, 2020 7:18 pm

With the White House itself now a possible COVID hotspot, they're ordering mask usage in the West Wing:
https://twitter.com/Santucci/status/1259919016015036417

It appears quite possible to tamp this down if we institute nationwide mask usage, but you have to get everybody on board. The huge advantage for Trump is that the people who hate masks right now generally vote Republican and will follow his lead. Six months until an election and he could literally make American great again.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Turdacious » Mon May 11, 2020 8:17 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 3:43 pm
Turdacious wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 10:53 pm
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 3:37 am
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05 ... ce=twitter

If true, widespread mask usage is almost free, allows an open economy, and could buy a ton of time. Unfortunately, to get to 80% it would require Republican leadership, which doesn't appear forthcoming.
How so? Do Republicans tend to run the most crowded areas in the US?
Republican population exceeds 20% almost everywhere.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Grandpa's Spells » Mon May 11, 2020 8:22 pm

You are going to have to try a little harder.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Sangoma » Tue May 12, 2020 12:06 am

Fat Cat wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 5:30 pm
Sangoma wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:18 am
Fat Cat wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 5:23 pm
Here's a pretty amazing article on the Five Eyes intelligence group's analysis of Chinese complicity in the COVID-19 plague. It's very long, and very detailed, full of names and dates, but it will definitely get you on a fuck China tip. Five Eyes is the combined intelligence of United States, Australia, NZ, Canada and the UK, BTW.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/coron ... 96ad17da60
Daily Telegraph is one of the worst papers I have ever come across in my life. There is not a drop of journalism in it. You can't believe anything they print.
Did you read the article? If so, what did you take issue with?
I skimmed through it. My issue is that they lie and misinterpret facts for their agenda, so whatever they wrote is likely to be bullshit. It's a reputation thing.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Fat Cat » Tue May 12, 2020 12:38 am

Sangoma wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 12:06 am
Fat Cat wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 5:30 pm
Sangoma wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 8:18 am
Fat Cat wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 5:23 pm
Here's a pretty amazing article on the Five Eyes intelligence group's analysis of Chinese complicity in the COVID-19 plague. It's very long, and very detailed, full of names and dates, but it will definitely get you on a fuck China tip. Five Eyes is the combined intelligence of United States, Australia, NZ, Canada and the UK, BTW.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/coron ... 96ad17da60
Daily Telegraph is one of the worst papers I have ever come across in my life. There is not a drop of journalism in it. You can't believe anything they print.
Did you read the article? If so, what did you take issue with?
I skimmed through it. My issue is that they lie and misinterpret facts for their agenda, so whatever they wrote is likely to be bullshit. It's a reputation thing.
In other words, "no". :-" Well they provide a great deal information in the form of names, dates, and sequences of events that you're welcome to dispute, but the article paints a pretty damning picture of Chinese malevolence.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Turdacious » Tue May 12, 2020 1:56 am

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:22 pm
You are going to have to try a little harder.
The problem is worst in the tri-state area, and in the worst hit areas, Republicans have almost no political power.
Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Council
Nice try making this a partisan issue.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Tue May 12, 2020 2:48 am

Turdacious wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:56 am
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:22 pm
You are going to have to try a little harder.
The problem is worst in the tri-state area, and in the worst hit areas, Republicans have almost no political power.
Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Council
Nice try making this a partisan issue.
Top increasing infection sites this past week.

• Trousdale County, TN (+1,297%)
• Buchanan, MO (+656%)
• Muhlenberg, KY (+650%)
• Colfax, NE (+535%)
• Kenosha, WI (+155%)
• Polk, IA (+107%)
• Hall, GA (+104%)
• Racine, WI (+103%)

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1 ... 6633842688
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Turdacious » Tue May 12, 2020 3:18 am

At least five contract security officers have tested positive for the coronavirus at the New York Avenue homeless shelter in Northeast Washington, D.C. One of those officers has died, while another described “severe” symptoms before recovering. The illnesses of contract and government employees of D.C. homeless shelters are not publicly announced in daily COVID-19 updates by Mayor Muriel Bowser, but they were confirmed through interviews and public records requests by the News4 I-Team.

The virus has spread widely through the New York Avenue shelter, one of the largest homeless facilities in the region. In addition to the five contract security officers, at least two other contract staff have tested positive, the I-Team learned. The DC Department of Human Services said one of the other contract workers who tested positive is a janitor. The agency told the I-Team approximately 85 residents tested positive as well.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/loca ... c/2299411/
I'm guessing this suggests a larger problem in DC, which has a large homeless population. There are still plenty of homeless on the streets, Probably similar in other areas with large homeless populations as well.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Turdacious » Tue May 12, 2020 3:24 am

nafod wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 2:48 am
Turdacious wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:56 am
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:22 pm
You are going to have to try a little harder.
The problem is worst in the tri-state area, and in the worst hit areas, Republicans have almost no political power.
Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Council
Nice try making this a partisan issue.
Top increasing infection sites this past week.

• Trousdale County, TN (+1,297%)
• Buchanan, MO (+656%)
• Muhlenberg, KY (+650%)
• Colfax, NE (+535%)
• Kenosha, WI (+155%)
• Polk, IA (+107%)
• Hall, GA (+104%)
• Racine, WI (+103%)

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1 ... 6633842688
Trousdale County has a population >8000, and most of those cases are in a correctional facility.
NYC has a population of 8.3m. The difference in size and economic impact are pretty big.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Tue May 12, 2020 3:41 am

Turdacious wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 3:24 am
nafod wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 2:48 am
Turdacious wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:56 am
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:22 pm
You are going to have to try a little harder.
The problem is worst in the tri-state area, and in the worst hit areas, Republicans have almost no political power.
Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Council
Nice try making this a partisan issue.
Top increasing infection sites this past week.

• Trousdale County, TN (+1,297%)
• Buchanan, MO (+656%)
• Muhlenberg, KY (+650%)
• Colfax, NE (+535%)
• Kenosha, WI (+155%)
• Polk, IA (+107%)
• Hall, GA (+104%)
• Racine, WI (+103%)

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1 ... 6633842688
Trousdale County has a population >8000, and most of those cases are in a correctional facility.
NYC has a population of 8.3m. The difference in size and economic impact are pretty big.
It's the growth rate that matters. And those are just the top gainers.

The 10 top areas recorded surges of 72.4 percent or greater over a seven-day period compared to the previous week, according to a set of tables produced for the task force by its data and analytics unit. They include Nashville, Tennessee; Des Moines, Iowa; Amarillo, Texas; and — atop the list, with a 650 percent increase — Central City, Kentucky.

...On a separate list of "locations to watch," which didn't meet the precise criteria for the first set: Charlotte, North Carolina; Kansas City, Missouri; Omaha and Lincoln, Nebraska; Minneapolis; Montgomery, Alabama; Columbus, Ohio; and Phoenix. The rates of new cases in Charlotte and Kansas City represented increases of more than 200 percent over the previous week
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Grandpa's Spells » Tue May 12, 2020 4:09 am

Turdacious wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:56 am
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:22 pm
You are going to have to try a little harder.
The problem is worst in the tri-state area, and in the worst hit areas, Republicans have almost no political power.
Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Council
Nice try making this a partisan issue.
OK, we aren't talking about quite the same thing. In my area, and I'd imagine many others, there are a certain number of people who don't want to listen to the Dumbocrat governors or mayors.

If you want to get to 80% mask usage, which appears to be the minimum number for max effect, you have to get a pretty good number of our MAGAmigos to get on the bus. The upside is, Trump/Hannity/McConnell/etc. can actually persuade those people to do it. Any Democratic President would struggle to get Fox viewers on board.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Turdacious » Tue May 12, 2020 4:24 am

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 4:09 am
Turdacious wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:56 am
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:22 pm
You are going to have to try a little harder.
The problem is worst in the tri-state area, and in the worst hit areas, Republicans have almost no political power.
Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Council
Nice try making this a partisan issue.
OK, we aren't talking about quite the same thing. In my area, and I'd imagine many others, there are a certain number of people who don't want to listen to the Dumbocrat governors or mayors.

If you want to get to 80% mask usage, which appears to be the minimum number for max effect, you have to get a pretty good number of our MAGAmigos to get on the bus. The upside is, Trump/Hannity/McConnell/etc. can actually persuade those people to do it. Any Democratic President would struggle to get Fox viewers on board.
You have no proof of any of that. Most, if not all, of the Dem haters I know regularly wear masks in public and practice social distancing. And the worst hit groups, like African Americans, tend not to be Fox viewers.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Turdacious » Tue May 12, 2020 4:29 am

nafod wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 3:41 am
Turdacious wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 3:24 am
nafod wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 2:48 am
Turdacious wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:56 am
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:22 pm
You are going to have to try a little harder.
The problem is worst in the tri-state area, and in the worst hit areas, Republicans have almost no political power.
Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Council
Nice try making this a partisan issue.
Top increasing infection sites this past week.

• Trousdale County, TN (+1,297%)
• Buchanan, MO (+656%)
• Muhlenberg, KY (+650%)
• Colfax, NE (+535%)
• Kenosha, WI (+155%)
• Polk, IA (+107%)
• Hall, GA (+104%)
• Racine, WI (+103%)

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1 ... 6633842688
Trousdale County has a population >8000, and most of those cases are in a correctional facility.
NYC has a population of 8.3m. The difference in size and economic impact are pretty big.
It's the growth rate that matters. And those are just the top gainers.

The 10 top areas recorded surges of 72.4 percent or greater over a seven-day period compared to the previous week, according to a set of tables produced for the task force by its data and analytics unit. They include Nashville, Tennessee; Des Moines, Iowa; Amarillo, Texas; and — atop the list, with a 650 percent increase — Central City, Kentucky.

...On a separate list of "locations to watch," which didn't meet the precise criteria for the first set: Charlotte, North Carolina; Kansas City, Missouri; Omaha and Lincoln, Nebraska; Minneapolis; Montgomery, Alabama; Columbus, Ohio; and Phoenix. The rates of new cases in Charlotte and Kansas City represented increases of more than 200 percent over the previous week
That's not how stats work-- a podunk town that went from 1 to 3 cases would make that first list. On your second list, which includes larger cities-- how many of them have Republican majorities?
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Wild Bill » Tue May 12, 2020 9:02 am

"Five Eyes intelligence agencies of the United States, Australia, NZ, Canada and the UK."

"Canadian inteligence agency" sounds like a joke :)

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Wed May 13, 2020 12:51 am

nafod wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 2:48 am
Turdacious wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:56 am
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:22 pm
You are going to have to try a little harder.
The problem is worst in the tri-state area, and in the worst hit areas, Republicans have almost no political power.
Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Council
Nice try making this a partisan issue.
Top increasing infection sites this past week.

• Trousdale County, TN (+1,297%)
• Buchanan, MO (+656%)
• Muhlenberg, KY (+650%)
• Colfax, NE (+535%)
• Kenosha, WI (+155%)
• Polk, IA (+107%)
• Hall, GA (+104%)
• Racine, WI (+103%)

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1 ... 6633842688
You dishonest sob lol NYC and NNJ have over 50% of the deaths.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Fat Cat » Wed May 13, 2020 12:53 am

Wild Bill wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 9:02 am
"Five Eyes intelligence agencies of the United States, Australia, NZ, Canada and the UK."

"Canadian inteligence agency" sounds like a joke :)
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by motherjuggs&speed » Wed May 13, 2020 2:27 am

The Russians are discrediting Canada any way they can so they can gank the whole Polar region.

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Post by Schlegel » Wed May 13, 2020 3:52 am

Fat Cat wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 12:53 am
Wild Bill wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 9:02 am
"Five Eyes intelligence agencies of the United States, Australia, NZ, Canada and the UK."

"Canadian inteligence agency" sounds like a joke :)
Canada is a great country and home to many Russian emigres, including my two lovely cousins.
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Re: Wu Flu

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motherjuggs&speed wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 2:27 am
The Russians are discrediting Canada any way they can so they can gank the whole Polar region.
Ok, probably Canadian intelligence almost as good as of New Zealand.
And Australia here.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Wed May 13, 2020 1:36 pm

Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 12:51 am
nafod wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 2:48 am
Turdacious wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:56 am
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:22 pm
You are going to have to try a little harder.
The problem is worst in the tri-state area, and in the worst hit areas, Republicans have almost no political power.
Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Council
Nice try making this a partisan issue.
Top increasing infection sites this past week.

• Trousdale County, TN (+1,297%)
• Buchanan, MO (+656%)
• Muhlenberg, KY (+650%)
• Colfax, NE (+535%)
• Kenosha, WI (+155%)
• Polk, IA (+107%)
• Hall, GA (+104%)
• Racine, WI (+103%)

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1 ... 6633842688
You dishonest sob lol NYC and NNJ have over 50% of the deaths.
NYC and NJ both have declining daily rates of new infections, yet the country as a whole is holding steady or slightly decreasing. That's because it's growing elsewhere. That will increase as we release the lockdown.

Florida has actually done alright, better than I thought it would. The virus loves old people, and they have a shit-ton. Kudos.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Wed May 13, 2020 2:54 pm

Jfc the relentless dishonesty from you.

Absent NYC and its fuckups there was no actual health emergency. It was a flu for the rest of the country.

NYC seeded NNJ. NYC seeded eastern PA. NYC seeded CT. NYC seeded MA.

In fact, most cases outside of WA and CA (and many in those) were seeded by NYC.

NYC sent positives back to their nursing homes. Knowingly killing the olds we were all allegedly destroying the economy to protect.

We've all been fucked by NYC.

And now you are Schadenfreuding out about this because the orange man is bad and violates norms?

For the love of God stop being so dishonest.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Wed May 13, 2020 3:13 pm

Oh god fucking damn it. That depraved tranny Surgeon General of PA moved her mom out of a nursing facility while sending positives back.

https://www.abc27.com/news/pennsylvania ... ssion=true

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