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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:22 pm

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20189423v1

Pre-print on correlation btwn BCG vaccine program for TB and severity of disease (deaths).

See specifically the different outcomes re: Spain and Portugal!

https://www.ft.com/content/67e1661b-f12 ... 2b5998ad73

Group A (current UBIP and equivalent, protected cohort over 30 years of age): Tai- wan, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Slovakia, Poland, Ukraine, Greece, Portugal, Czechia (2010), Finland (2008), Germany (1998), Norway (1995), Austria (1990).

Group A (previous UBIP): Australia (c.1985), Israel (1986), Denmark (1987), Swit- zerland (c.1985), Sweden (1975).

Group C (no record of a previous UBIP, and equivalent): Italy, Belgium, Nether- lands, United Kingdom (see Notes below), Spain (Notes), USA, Ontario, Quebec (prov- inces of Canada), California, Florida, New York (states of USA).
Conclusion
With a time-adjusted dataset of epidemiological statistics for national and subnational jurisdictions at the time point of 6 months after the first exposure statistical significance of the correlation hypothesis between the record of universal BCG vaccine immuniza- tion performed at birth or early infancy and milder Covid-19 epidemiological scenario in the jurisdiction. The results of several qualitative observations Sections 4.1, 4.2 con- sistently point at a correlation between these factors.

In addition to convincing, in our view, qualitative arguments in support of the cor- relation hypothesis, a statistical analysis of the correlation between UBIP record and current epidemiological impact in Section 5 confirms statistical significance of the cor- relation hypothesis with a confidence of at least 0.0001. The result is consistent with the analysis of statistical significance at the time of exposure of 3 months [6] and in- creases the confidence in the overall conclusion because under the null hypothesis sam- ples taken at different time intervals should be considered as independent as well.

The findings of this research are in agreement with the earlier studies [1-6] support- ing the correlation hypothesis and in our view, provide a strong rationale for further research into possible mechanisms for such a broad induced protection with the poten- tial of developing effective methods of long-term immunity against a broad range of diseases.

It is hoped that time-adjusted datasets compiled in this work as the early observations obtained with it can be useful to other researchers in the field looking for effective approaches to understanding and eventually, effectively managing and controlling this and similar infectious diseases in the future.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:37 pm

Honestly, I don't know if this means they're pot committed and are going to see what happens in a "fuck it, let's go!" mindframe.

Or, they're going to bluff until a vaccine and then throw up their hands and say "I've done all a human can do to save your life! Open it up."

Gotta admit this is levels of chutzpah we've never seen before.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:38 pm

Wanna bet the NFL forced the labs they use to cut the sample analysis at under 30 Ct?

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Grandpa's Spells » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:00 pm

If you know anybody who had a family member that went to Sturgis, maybe hold off on hanging out for a few weeks.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Fat Cat » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:12 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:00 pm
If you know anybody who had a family member that went to Sturgis, maybe hold off on hanging out for a few weeks.
You do the same for any protesters.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:14 pm

I actually think the Sturgis thing might be overblown.

But since we now live in the Trumpian Age of Bullshit...yes.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:43 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:00 pm
If you know anybody who had a family member that went to Sturgis, maybe hold off on hanging out for a few weeks.
Hey thanks I'd gone ten minutes without exposure to dominant narrative snark.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Fat Cat » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:05 pm

SPELLS gets his viewpoints from Stephen Colbert and his catamite ilk. You can just catch up at the end of the day.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm

Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:43 pm
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:00 pm
If you know anybody who had a family member that went to Sturgis, maybe hold off on hanging out for a few weeks.
Hey thanks I'd gone ten minutes without exposure to dominant narrative snark.
How's the view, Benny?

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Fat Cat » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:03 pm

nafod wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm
Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:43 pm
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:00 pm
If you know anybody who had a family member that went to Sturgis, maybe hold off on hanging out for a few weeks.
Hey thanks I'd gone ten minutes without exposure to dominant narrative snark.
How's the view, Benny?

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Go look through B161's posts and tell me he's not one of the most intellectually curious people here. You may not agree with him, but that's proof enough.
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Re: Wu Flu

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Post by Bennyonesix1 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:20 pm

What's worse:

1) Cancelling Halloween to "save lives"?

Or

2) Uncancelling Halloween because people got mad?

I think either they weren't trying to save lives or they were but prioritize PR over lives.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:40 pm

I think we can end the Lockdowns saved lives on the road thing...

Additional deaths aren't quantified but we know (at least in TN) they aren't fewer.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:40 am

Fat Cat wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:03 pm
nafod wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm
Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:43 pm
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:00 pm
If you know anybody who had a family member that went to Sturgis, maybe hold off on hanging out for a few weeks.
Hey thanks I'd gone ten minutes without exposure to dominant narrative snark.
How's the view, Benny?

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Go look through B161's posts and tell me he's not one of the most intellectually curious people here. You may not agree with him, but that's proof enough.
Yeah, B161 does have an open mind.

Still, sometimes there is a reason a narrative dominates. When Fox and the "mainstream media" agree on it, you're at "dogs and cats mating" level of unusual truthiness.
Don’t believe everything you think.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Fat Cat » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:41 am

nafod wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:40 am
Fat Cat wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:03 pm
nafod wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm
Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:43 pm
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:00 pm
If you know anybody who had a family member that went to Sturgis, maybe hold off on hanging out for a few weeks.
Hey thanks I'd gone ten minutes without exposure to dominant narrative snark.
How's the view, Benny?

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Go look through B161's posts and tell me he's not one of the most intellectually curious people here. You may not agree with him, but that's proof enough.
Yeah, B161 does have an open mind.

Still, sometimes there is a reason a narrative dominates. When Fox and the "mainstream media" agree on it, you're at "dogs and cats mating" level of unusual truthiness.
No, you're at MSM is a controlled op. Which it plainly is. And remember, it's you who spout the "vast rightwing conspiracy" with millions of moving parts.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:43 am

As I have been saying regarding masks...
Facial Masking for Covid-19 — Potential for “Variolation” as We Await a Vaccine
List of authors.
Monica Gandhi, M.D., M.P.H., and George W. Rutherford, M.D.

As SARS-CoV-2 continues its global spread, it’s possible that one of the pillars of Covid-19 pandemic control — universal facial masking — might help reduce the severity of disease and ensure that a greater proportion of new infections are asymptomatic. If this hypothesis is borne out, universal masking could become a form of “variolation” that would generate immunity and thereby slow the spread of the virus in the United States and elsewhere, as we await a vaccine.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2026913
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:46 am

Fat Cat wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:41 am
nafod wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:40 am
Fat Cat wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:03 pm
nafod wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm
Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:43 pm
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:00 pm
If you know anybody who had a family member that went to Sturgis, maybe hold off on hanging out for a few weeks.
Hey thanks I'd gone ten minutes without exposure to dominant narrative snark.
How's the view, Benny?

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Go look through B161's posts and tell me he's not one of the most intellectually curious people here. You may not agree with him, but that's proof enough.
Yeah, B161 does have an open mind.

Still, sometimes there is a reason a narrative dominates. When Fox and the "mainstream media" agree on it, you're at "dogs and cats mating" level of unusual truthiness.
No, you're at MSM is a controlled op. Which it plainly is. And remember, it's you who spout the "vast rightwing conspiracy" with millions of moving parts.
No, I said it is a cult, where the Dear Pumpkin-Leader demands that the faithful recognize black as white, up as down, and lies as the truth, or get mean-tweeted back to the 1900s.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:17 am

nafod wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:43 am
As I have been saying regarding masks...
Facial Masking for Covid-19 — Potential for “Variolation” as We Await a Vaccine
List of authors.
Monica Gandhi, M.D., M.P.H., and George W. Rutherford, M.D.

As SARS-CoV-2 continues its global spread, it’s possible that one of the pillars of Covid-19 pandemic control — universal facial masking — might help reduce the severity of disease and ensure that a greater proportion of new infections are asymptomatic. If this hypothesis is borne out, universal masking could become a form of “variolation” that would generate immunity and thereby slow the spread of the virus in the United States and elsewhere, as we await a vaccine.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2026913
Ms Ghandi deploying the crypto-optative mood in a science paper.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Fat Cat » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:27 am

Can anybody weigh in on the constitutionality of forcing people to wear garments of any specific kind? I'm still at a loss as to how the government can impose a variety of measures on people with no due process.

The bottom line is if the G-men can deny your freedoms any time they think it's appropriate, you're not really free at all.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:33 am

nafod wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:40 am
Fat Cat wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:03 pm
nafod wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm
Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:43 pm
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:00 pm
If you know anybody who had a family member that went to Sturgis, maybe hold off on hanging out for a few weeks.
Hey thanks I'd gone ten minutes without exposure to dominant narrative snark.
How's the view, Benny?

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Go look through B161's posts and tell me he's not one of the most intellectually curious people here. You may not agree with him, but that's proof enough.
Yeah, B161 does have an open mind.

Still, sometimes there is a reason a narrative dominates. When Fox and the "mainstream media" agree on it, you're at "dogs and cats mating" level of unusual truthiness.
Yeah. The reason is one faction of elites gains control of every major news outlet. Like now.

And spare us your Fox News and Drudge are right wing.

Even if they were once, the departure of Ailes and the installation of Ryan and the sale by Drudge (when does that NDA end?) rendered them harmless.

Tucker is the only legitimate dissenting voice from the Right with any voice. And he's slowly being forced out because HR and the Ad agencies are prt of the narrative machinery of the Elite.

And you can't fall back on "it's the free market!" Because Tucker brings in absolute numbers and would do even better if he were pushed.

I suppose Rush is an oppositional voice but he just complains and agitates and offers no program for change. And he's boycotted by the Ad Agencies as well. FOR ZERO ECONOMIC REASON.

I have neoliberal relatives and they're at least honest. They think favela world is just. They were good at school and maneuvering in whatever hierarchy they inhabit and believe that is the filter that matters. For them, if you can't succeed in academia and then HR world you are essentially deficient. And too bad so sad you should have played the game better see you later *drives away in Audi RS to lily white community they live in for the schools not because there are no blacks*
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:39 am

Fat Cat wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:27 am
Can anybody weigh in on the constitutionality of forcing people to wear garments of any specific kind? I'm still at a loss as to how the government can impose a variety of measures on people with no due process.

The bottom line is if the G-men can deny your freedoms any time they think it's appropriate, you're not really free at all.
Bottom line: the Courts don't want to run governmental reaponse to EMERGENCIES.

That's what it would mean for them to weigh in on these admittedly irrational and draconian dictates.

They've taken on oversight of the police via 4th and 5th and 6th Amendments and racial and sexual and gender relations via Equal Protection etc etc and they've been screwing everything up ever since (thanks Oliver Wendell Holmes jr!).

I believe they would step in were a Governor to cancel elections. Short of that, their position is: elections have consequences.

The answer is to vote them out at election time.

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Post by Sangoma » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:45 am

Nafod, you missed the mark with the ostrich pic by 180 degrees. It's way easier to bury your head in the mainstream media than defend an opposing view.
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Post by Fat Cat » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:52 am

Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:33 am
I have neoliberal relatives and they're at least honest. They think favela world is just. They were good at school and maneuvering in whatever hierarchy they inhabit and believe that is the filter that matters. For them, if you can't succeed in academia and then HR world you are essentially deficient. And too bad so sad you should have played the game better see you later *drives away in Audi RS to lily white community they live in for the schools not because there are no blacks*
BOOM. Fuckin' headshot breh breh.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:15 am

These people are very intelligent. They understand that 90%+ of the population sees their mindset and the way they live as amoral and vicious and destructive. But those concepts exist in their minds within quotes: "amoral", "vicious" and "destructive".

That's the way they are and other people just aren't able to understand.

When pushed, they'll admit the system is hard on everyone not like them. But any other system would make it more difficult for them.

"Yes yes the 40's to 60's were great here in the US. And yes Unions and domestic industry led to an incredible quality of life for the average joe. But Unions are corrupt and inefficient. I mean they stand around all day. I see them! Lol yes I don't do anything but I have a law degree/finance degree."

When pushed they'll argue "Neoliberalism is the worst system possible except for all the others".

That's why the central argument for the neoliberal status quo is that there is no viable alternative because of x, y, z be it racism or anti-semitism or low prices or efficiency or my personal favorite technological advancement via entrpreneurism. As if we haven't fallen backwards since the 50's.

The average joe can't be wealthy because of racism and anti semitism and homophobia.

Oh yes, they'll also argue "it's always been this way". Of course there's always been people like them. But they haven't had the power they have now in a long time.

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