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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Grandpa's Spells » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:46 am

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SPELLS gets his viewpoints from Stephen Colbert and his catamite ilk. You can just catch up at the end of the day.
Maybe I should have framed this a little differently.

Some good friends got COVID, possibly from going to an outdoor event where some Sturgis-visiting family members appear to have been presymptomatic carriers. Fewer than 30 people in attendance, outdoors except for N95 use when going indoors. Literal pulmonologist and CDC employee in attendance and involved in planning since it was a decent-sized gathering. People were pretty careful.

The Sturgis claims may be overblown, but it's a no-downside freeroll to hold off on plans with attendees for a couple weeks.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Turdacious » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:56 am

UW-Madison and how they react is probably a better indicator than sturgis.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.jsonli ... 5762965002
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:48 am

God damn it.

Send asymptomatics home to perhaps spread it there to olds instead of keeping them where they are to spread it safely to others who won't even notice either.

Brilliant.

Burn the Universities down now and take their endowments and hand it out to the poor.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:23 am

Uruguay is awesome and I've wanted to move there for years.
A Ct- value less than 35 was defined as a positive test result, and a Ct-value of 40 or more was defined as a negative test result. A medium load, defined as a Ct-value of more than 35 to less than 40, required confirmation by retesting. This SARS-CoV-2 molecular detection protocol was transferred to research institutes; public hospitals and academic laboratories all around the country.
Thank god for countries with guts and smart people like Sweden and Uruguay. Without them we'd have no alternative to evaluate our hysteria against.

I imagine if we tested as Uruguay did, we'd get close to the same results. They had one of the best responses to Covid because they tested in a non-insane way.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv ... 2.full.pdf

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Wild Bill » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:45 am

In Russia mass vacination will start in October.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:26 pm

https://focustaiwan.tw/society/202006250010
The CECC revealed on Wednesday that the woman, who is in her 20s and had been studying at a university in southern Taiwan since February, tested positive for COVID-19 after returning to Japan on June 20.

It also acknowledged that she may have been infected in Taiwan.

Taiwan has since examined additional data from her test sample, which had a cycle threshold, or CT value of 37-38 -- a result on the diagnostic threshold which is often referred to as a "weak positive," CECC spokesman Chuang Jen-hsiang (莊人祥) said at a press conference.

Only samples with a CT value under 35 are considered positive in Taiwan, while those over 32 are unlikely to be contagious, Chuang said.
Wonder why Taiwan had such a great response to the pandemic?

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:28 pm

It'd be just great if we are testing students under a Ct 40 regime.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:39 pm

Fwiw, here's the argument that Fauci knowingly misled Congress about the IFR of Covid. It has good sources. Idk. Don't really care. The guy lied to us during AIDS about hetero transmission so fuck him. He sucks.

https://rationalground.com/mistake-or-manipulation/

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:03 pm

Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:48 am
God damn it.

Send asymptomatics home to perhaps spread it there to olds instead of keeping them where they are to spread it safely to others who won't even notice either.

Brilliant.

Burn the Universities down now and take their endowments and hand it out to the poor.
We have it blowing up in our town right now. I've argued to not send them home for the exact same reason.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:04 pm

Wild Bill wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:45 am
In Russia mass vacination will start in October.
Novachuk?
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:14 pm

nafod wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:03 pm
Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:48 am
God damn it.

Send asymptomatics home to perhaps spread it there to olds instead of keeping them where they are to spread it safely to others who won't even notice either.

Brilliant.

Burn the Universities down now and take their endowments and hand it out to the poor.
We have it blowing up in our town right now. I've argued to not send them home for the exact same reason.

SuperSpreader State U
This is a worse clusterfuck than THE WAR ON TERROR.

I didn't think it possible. But here we are. We now have the Neoliberal version of that lunacy.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Wild Bill » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:43 pm

nafod wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:04 pm
Wild Bill wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:45 am
In Russia mass vacination will start in October.
Novachuk?
One of volunteers was an American and he made a good review


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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Fat Cat » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:08 pm

How do you "review" a vaccine?
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Wild Bill » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:15 pm

Fat Cat wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:08 pm
How do you "review" a vaccine?
shit.
did not wanted to search word in vocablary :) printed first that came to mind.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Fat Cat » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:16 pm

All good my man I hope it works and works well for all Russians' sake.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Wild Bill » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:44 pm

Fat Cat wrote:
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All good my man I hope it works and works well for all Russians' sake.
I also hope it works.
only in Moscow 25 thousands of volunteers :)
if it will not work, it will be a zombie movie.

but other Russian vacines works good, so I believe that will work too.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:31 pm

Possible England is using Ct 45 analysis. If so that's insane. Madness.

See page 15-16

https://www.rcpath.org/uploads/assets/9 ... tories.pdf

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:05 pm

"I've seen more tooth fractures in the last six weeks than in the previous six years,” I explained.

Unfortunately, that’s no exaggeration.

I closed my midtown Manhattan practice to all but dental emergencies in mid-March, in line with American Dental Association guidelines and state government mandate. Almost immediately, I noticed an uptick in phone calls: jaw pain, tooth sensitivity, achiness in the cheeks, migraines. Most of these patients I effectively treated via telemedicine.

But when I reopened my practice in early June, the fractures started coming in: at least one a day, every single day that I’ve been in the office. On average, I’m seeing three to four; the bad days are six-plus fractures.

What’s going on?
https://news.yahoo.com/dentists-seeing- ... 02844.html

*Fauci grinning rubbing hands*

"Ahhhh the perfect level of societal fear!"

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:52 pm

Damn this Ct level issue is going to blow up.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:05 am

So, Taleb was and is a notorious covid doomer. See photo of him wearing goggles and an N95 and another mask at same time while on a plane (yet still flying because why?).

Has he disclosed his portfolio and investments in stocks that stood and stand to gain from downside risk from covid?


https://markets.businessinsider.com/amp ... ssion=true

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:20 am

Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:05 am
So, Taleb was and is a notorious covid doomer. See photo of him wearing goggles and an N95 and another mask at same time while on a plane (yet still flying because why?).

Has he disclosed his portfolio and investments in stocks that stood and stand to gain from downside risk from covid?


https://markets.businessinsider.com/amp ... ssion=true
He is misunderstood by the majority of the world, in spite of his books.

He is a notorious climate model doomer too, in that he argued in the absence of models to confirm things aren't going to be really really bad, we should assume they will be really really bad. Because it is a potential extinction event.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:43 am

So, there are lots of black swans?

Has he released his portfolio?

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:58 pm

If he bet on the virus, then he bet against his actions. He has advocated for treating the virus seriously and squashing it immediately, which is far and away what we have not done. Instead, his advice has been repeatedly ignored.
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Re: Wu Flu

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:37 pm

nafod wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:58 pm
If he bet on the virus, then he bet against his actions. He has advocated for treating the virus seriously and squashing it immediately, which is far and away what we have not done. Instead, his advice has been repeatedly ignored.
As always just merely facile. Every word and every sentence is tendentious.

It's obtuse as well. It makes perfect sense and is fitting that the hive-mind corona hysterics love mis-using that word as a criticism of their opponents. It's the default tactic of proponents of the dominant narrative: project onto others that which you are doing.

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Re: Wu Flu

Post by nafod » Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:21 pm

Do you think his advice has been followed or ignored?
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