Is Hotlanta about to burn?

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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by Alfred_E._Neuman » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:01 pm

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Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:29 pm
They burned that motha down.
Some white woman started the damned fire. There's good video of her lighting it off, and a $10k reward for her last I checked.
Again, it reeks of Antifa coming in and turning a protest into property destruction.
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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by seeahill » Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:44 pm

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The Boogaloo Bois are involved.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... -carrillo/

As protests gripped Oakland on May 29, a white van pulled up outside a federal courthouse. A door slid open, and a man peppered the two security officers outside with bullets, killing one and wounding the other.

For a little over a week, the crime was a mystery. Was it tied to the protests just blocks away? Even after the suspected killer was dramatically caught in the nearby mountains eight days later, his motive was murky.

Now, federal authorities say the man, identified as Air Force Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo, 32, was an adherent of the “boogaloo boys,” a growing online extremist movement that has sought to use peaceful protests against police brutality to spread fringe views and ignite a race war. Federal investigators allege that’s exactly what Carrillo was trying to do last month.
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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by Turdacious » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:04 am

seeahill wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:44 pm
seeahill wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:59 pm
The Boogaloo Bois are involved.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... -carrillo/

As protests gripped Oakland on May 29, a white van pulled up outside a federal courthouse. A door slid open, and a man peppered the two security officers outside with bullets, killing one and wounding the other.

For a little over a week, the crime was a mystery. Was it tied to the protests just blocks away? Even after the suspected killer was dramatically caught in the nearby mountains eight days later, his motive was murky.

Now, federal authorities say the man, identified as Air Force Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo, 32, was an adherent of the “boogaloo boys,” a growing online extremist movement that has sought to use peaceful protests against police brutality to spread fringe views and ignite a race war. Federal investigators allege that’s exactly what Carrillo was trying to do last month.
There is one silver lining-- double jeopardy laws won't apply here.
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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by Fat Cat » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:37 am

seeahill wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:44 pm
seeahill wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:59 pm
The Boogaloo Bois are involved.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... -carrillo/

As protests gripped Oakland on May 29, a white van pulled up outside a federal courthouse. A door slid open, and a man peppered the two security officers outside with bullets, killing one and wounding the other.

For a little over a week, the crime was a mystery. Was it tied to the protests just blocks away? Even after the suspected killer was dramatically caught in the nearby mountains eight days later, his motive was murky.

Now, federal authorities say the man, identified as Air Force Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo, 32, was an adherent of the “boogaloo boys,” a growing online extremist movement that has sought to use peaceful protests against police brutality to spread fringe views and ignite a race war. Federal investigators allege that’s exactly what Carrillo was trying to do last month.
There's no such thing as boogaloo boys, it's a joke made up on a forum not unlike our own.
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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by vern » Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:38 am

They're charging the cop with murder.

Supposedly the Atlanta cops are not showing up for work tonight.
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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by Fat Cat » Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:58 am

In their eagerness to charge every cop in sight, some of these DA's are setting up charges almost certain to fail. Under GA law for peace officers deadly force may be used when the officer:

(1) reasonably believes that the suspect possesses a deadly weapon or any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury;

(2) when the officer reasonably believes that the suspect poses an immediate threat of physical violence to the officer or others; or

(3) when there is probable cause to believe that the suspect has committed a crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm." (numbering added)


Now the suspect just engaged in combat with the two officers, so I think that (3) may be applicable. I'm not super stoked about a cop shooting a fleeing suspect, but the guy was a four time felon, obviously violent, and was going to be headed back to prison for a long time. Under the law cited above, it's hard for me to see the guy getting convicted, even if he does seem a bit trigger happy to be an officer of the peace.

Also, holy fuck, these guys gotta learn to wrestle.
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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by nafod » Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:12 pm

Some random thoughts...

Never bring a taser to a gun fight

If shooting a guy in the back while he runs away from me is wrong, I don't want to be right. Also, not rendering any medical assistance while be bleeds out. Bad look.

The guy was about as cooperative a drunk as you'll ever get. Up until he wasn't.

If he was high instead of drunk, would this have happened? Alcohol = bad.

The only drunk driving they actually observed him doing was when they told him to drive his car.

We don't want a society without police

Total appreciation for acting in the heat of the moment with split second decision making.

The whole thing is just a sad shit-show. I don't expect him to be found guilty.
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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by Turdacious » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:26 am

nafod wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:12 pm
The whole thing is just a sad shit-show. I don't expect him to be found guilty.
It's more than that-- will the city be forced to give him his job back? What will the reaction be?
I don't consider myself an expert, but this case seems to be in the grey area that almost always favors cops in court (and I don't expect he'll actually be tried in Fulton County-- which probably won't help racial tensions).
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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by Fat Cat » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:24 pm

Well apparently the Atlanta DA is under investigation for corruption: https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/fulton ... itive-case

And he's in a tight runoff, which may have contributed to his decision to charge the officers: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/da-election-brooks

And the Georgia Bureau of Investigation had no prior knowledge intention of his plans to charge the officers: https://allongeorgia.com/georgia-state- ... ooks-case/
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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by Fat Cat » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:53 pm

104 shot, 14 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend in Chicago
Five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.


https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020 ... 2-104-shot

HEY SPELLS DID YOU HOLD A VIGIL? DO YOU EVEN BLM? Why don't these black lives matter? Patiently explain to me how this is the fault of my structural white supremacy. Go slow and make it hurt, daddy.
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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by Turdacious » Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:01 pm

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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by Turdacious » Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:05 pm

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Re: Is Hotlanta about to burn?

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:13 pm

That dude is creepy and dumb. Not clicking.

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