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WSJ: Schiff Russia Transcripts Lies

Post by Fat Cat » Wed May 13, 2020 7:37 pm

All the Adam Schiff Transcripts
Newly released documents show he knew all along that there was no proof of Russia-Trump collusion


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May 12, 2020 7:29 pm ET


Americans expect that politicians will lie, but sometimes the examples are so brazen that they deserve special notice. Newly released Congressional testimony shows that Adam Schiff spread falsehoods shamelessly about Russia and Donald Trump for three years even as his own committee gathered contrary evidence.

The House Intelligence Committee last week released 57 transcripts of interviews it conducted in its investigation into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election. The committee probe started in January 2017 under then-Chair Devin Nunes and concluded in March 2018 with a report finding no evidence that the Trump campaign conspired with the Kremlin. Most of the transcripts were ready for release long ago, but Mr. Schiff oddly refused to release them after he became chairman in 2019. He only released them last week when the White House threatened to do it first.

Now we know why. From the earliest days of the collusion narrative, Mr. Schiff insisted that he had evidence proving the plot. In March 2017 on MSNBC, Mr. Schiff teased that he couldn’t “go into particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now.”

In December 2017 he told CNN that collusion was a fact: “The Russians offered help, the campaign accepted help. The Russians gave help and the President made full use of that help.” In April 2018, Mr. Schiff released his response to Mr. Nunes’s report, stating that its finding of no collusion “was unsupported by the facts and the investigative record.”

None of this was true, and Mr. Schiff knew it. In July 2017, here’s what former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told Mr. Schiff and his colleagues: “I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election.” Three months later, former Obama Attorney General Loretta Lynch agreed that while she’d seen “concerning” information, “I don’t recall anything being briefed up to me.” Former Deputy AG Sally Yates concurred several weeks later: “We were at the fact-gathering stage here, not the conclusion stage.”

The same goes for the FBI agents who started the collusion probe in 2016. Most remarkable, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe admitted the bureau’s reason for opening the case was nonsense. Asked in December 2017 why the FBI obtained a secret surveillance warrant on former Trump aide Carter Page, rather than on George Papadopoulos (whose casual conversation with a foreign diplomat was the catalyst for the probe), Mr. McCabe responded: “Papadopoulos’ comment didn’t particularly indicate that he was the person that had had—that was interacting with the Russians.” No one else was either.

On it went, a parade of former Obama officials who declared under oath they’d seen no evidence of collusion or conspiracy—Susan Rice, Ben Rhodes, Samantha Power. Interviews with Trump campaign or Administration officials also yielded no collusion evidence. Mr. Schiff had access to these transcripts even as he claimed he had “ample” proof of collusion and wrote his false report.

He’s still making it up. Last week he said the transcripts contain “evidence of the Trump campaign’s efforts to invite, make use of, and cover up Russia’s help in the 2016 presidential election.”

The question we’d ask our friends in the media is when are they going to stop playing the fool by putting him on the air? Mr. Schiff is a powerful figure with access to secrets that the rest of us don’t have and can’t check. He misled the country repeatedly on an issue that consumed American politics.

President Trump often spreads falsehoods and invents facts, but at least he’s paid a price for it in media criticism and public mistrust. An industry of media fact checkers is dedicated to parsing his every word. As for Mr. Schiff, no one should ever believe another word he says.

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Post by Bennyonesix1 » Wed May 13, 2020 9:27 pm

I mean, yeah. He sucks. And is defo a pedo. Probably a sexual sadist murderer as well.

But, there's no difference between the two parties when it comes to this kind of stuff.

The GOP pols were just as guilty of treachery regarding the effort to oust an elected president.

Really don't see any difference btwn him and Burr or McCain or Graham or Ryan.

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Post by Fat Cat » Wed May 13, 2020 10:33 pm

^^^Totally agree that the Republican Party is just as replete with scum.
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Post by powerlifter54 » Mon May 18, 2020 1:33 am

Watching the Unmasking of Flynn blow up in the Obama-ite’s faces is a joy. No original 302, no transcript of the call, what was charged vs what was discussed, and the extended list of unmasking requests well after the call is a nice swirl to behold.
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Post by motherjuggs&speed » Tue May 19, 2020 4:01 pm

Trump is an unindicted criminal. Flynn pled guilty. No one with any brain cells or knowledge can doubt the criminality around Trump.

I can't imagine anyone supporting him at this point, but if there are any Trump supporters here, please respond with something that isn't dishonest and/or stupid.

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Re: WSJ: Schiff Russia Transcripts Lies

Post by Fat Cat » Tue May 19, 2020 5:23 pm

motherjuggs&speed wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 4:01 pm
Trump is an unindicted criminal.
What does that mean?

motherjuggs&speed wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 4:01 pm
Flynn pled guilty.
I know that you know what a plea deal is.
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Post by motherjuggs&speed » Tue May 19, 2020 5:42 pm

Fat Cat wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 5:23 pm
motherjuggs&speed wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 4:01 pm
Trump is an unindicted criminal.
What does that mean?
Mueller came close to saying that the only reason he didn't indict Trump is because he couldn't, not for lack of evidence, but a sitting President can't be indicted currently.

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Post by Fat Cat » Tue May 19, 2020 6:02 pm

Mueller came close doing almost doing something. I see.
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Post by motherjuggs&speed » Tue May 19, 2020 6:38 pm

Are you stupid or just dishonest? Did you read any of the report or listen to any of his testimony or read any news at all?

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Post by Fat Cat » Tue May 19, 2020 6:57 pm

motherjuggs&speed wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 6:38 pm
Are you stupid or just dishonest? Did you read any of the report or listen to any of his testimony or read any news at all?
I like to think I'm a little bit of both! But even yet, I was lead to believe that someone had to be charged and found guilty before they were a criminal.

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Post by motherjuggs&speed » Tue May 19, 2020 7:06 pm

That's why I took the care to say "unindicted". If you want to say that legally he's innocent until proven guilty, that's true. But let's not pretend we don't know what he is.

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Post by Fat Cat » Tue May 19, 2020 8:01 pm

You can't link twitter shit here for whatever reason.
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Post by nafod » Tue May 19, 2020 8:20 pm

Really? Hmmm...stuck pix in not from twitter.
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Post by DrDonkeyLove... » Tue May 19, 2020 8:31 pm

motherjuggs&speed wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 4:01 pm
Trump is an unindicted criminal. Flynn pled guilty. No one with any brain cells or knowledge can doubt the criminality around Trump.

I can't imagine anyone supporting him at this point, but if there are any Trump supporters here, please respond with something that isn't dishonest and/or stupid.
I can't think of a president in my lifetime (except maybe Ike or Jimmy Carter) who wasn't worthy of the title, unindicted criminal.

Flynn's pleading guilty means little to me. He may be guilty. Or, as happens all the time he was given two options.
A) Admit guilt whether guilty or not and get a minimal sentence.
B) Fight down to his last penny and watch his family get ground into powder by the system. And then get a life sentence (after all he's 69) if he failed to beat a system with a 97% conviction rate.

It's a rare innocent person who would chose option B.

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Post by newguy » Wed May 20, 2020 12:51 am

DrDonkeyLove... wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 8:31 pm
motherjuggs&speed wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 4:01 pm
Trump is an unindicted criminal. Flynn pled guilty. No one with any brain cells or knowledge can doubt the criminality around Trump.

I can't imagine anyone supporting him at this point, but if there are any Trump supporters here, please respond with something that isn't dishonest and/or stupid.
I can't think of a president in my lifetime (except maybe Ike or Jimmy Carter) who wasn't worthy of the title, unindicted criminal.

Flynn's pleading guilty means little to me. He may be guilty. Or, as happens all the time he was given two options.
A) Admit guilt whether guilty or not and get a minimal sentence.
B) Fight down to his last penny and watch his family get ground into powder by the system. And then get a life sentence (after all he's 69) if he failed to beat a system with a 97% conviction rate.

It's a rare innocent person who would chose option B.
Really? In terms of "unindicted criminal?"

I can see it with Nixon, Clinton, and Trump.

I don't see it with Obama, Bush 2, Bush 1 (as president).

And I'm not counting the regular political bullshit, war crimes, etc. Being caught counts against you. Not being caught is a point in your favor.

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Post by nafod » Wed May 20, 2020 2:43 pm

He found his moral compass for a little bit, and then lost it again. This tweet was deleted of course. Guess he no longer accepts full responsibility for his actions.
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