RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

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RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by Fat Cat » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:40 pm

On Rosh Hashana no less. 2020 pulling out all the stops!

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg dead at 87

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/politics ... index.html

Pour one out for the old broad, she deserves everyone's appreciation even if you don't agree with all her decisions. This is bound to make a contentious election even moreso. On an unrelated note: anybody know where I can get 5.56mm NATO ammo in bulk?

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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:56 pm

The simulation producers are pulling out all the stops

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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by Fat Cat » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:25 am

Damn son, her body's not cold but McConnell pulling no punches: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconn ... vote-floor
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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

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Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:56 pm
The simulation producers are pulling out all the stops

Jfc

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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:56 am

I think she's been dead for a while.

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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by motherjuggs&speed » Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:26 am

Fat Cat wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:40 pm
Pour one out for the old broad, she deserves everyone's appreciation even if you don't agree with all her decisions.
Why? I don't get the love for RBG.

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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by nafod » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:21 pm

She was not Trump's type
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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by Bennyonesix1 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:17 am

Imagine thinking so much of your abilities that you stay on SCOTUS until you die in decrepitude and then no one even mentions your jurisprudential record because it was so weak.

Imagine that level of self-delusion.

Of course it could have just been pure selfishness and love of the office...

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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by DrDonkeyLove... » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:59 pm

Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:22 am
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This seems almost too good to be true.
If true, this board will probably be the place where it's most acknowledged.

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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by Fat Cat » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:30 pm

motherjuggs&speed wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:26 am
Fat Cat wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:40 pm
Pour one out for the old broad, she deserves everyone's appreciation even if you don't agree with all her decisions.
Why? I don't get the love for RBG.
I don't agree with a lot of her decisions but she spent her life in service to the United States. Isn't that still worthy of appreciation?
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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by Turdacious » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:28 am

Her friendship with Scalia is the thing that both her and Scalia’s admirers miss. They never agreed on anything except the really important stuff.
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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by motherjuggs&speed » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:04 am

Fat Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:30 pm
motherjuggs&speed wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:26 am

Why? I don't get the love for RBG.
I don't agree with a lot of her decisions but she spent her life in service to the United States. Isn't that still worthy of appreciation?

Not by itself, no. A lot of people did that and did a lot of harm while they were at it.

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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by nafod » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:29 pm

DrDonkeyLove... wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:59 pm
Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:22 am
11F8DBBB-33F1-41F9-9799-7659D7BD9336.jpeg
This seems almost too good to be true.
If true, this board will probably be the place where it's most acknowledged.
That's her opinion of why the court (mostly appointed by Republicans at the time) cast the Roe versus Wade opinion, which was 20 years before she got on the court.

Look at who was in the majority on the opinion, and who nominated them to the court.

Puts a darker turn on it.
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Post by motherjuggs&speed » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:52 pm

Here's the full quote in the article

Q: Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong.

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/maga ... urg-t.html

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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by motherjuggs&speed » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:06 pm

nafod wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:29 pm
DrDonkeyLove... wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:59 pm
Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:22 am
11F8DBBB-33F1-41F9-9799-7659D7BD9336.jpeg
This seems almost too good to be true.
If true, this board will probably be the place where it's most acknowledged.
That's her opinion of why the court (mostly appointed by Republicans at the time) cast the Roe versus Wade opinion, which was 20 years before she got on the court.

Look at who was in the majority on the opinion, and who nominated them to the court.

Puts a darker turn on it.
Blackmun was nominated by Nixon, Stewart by Eisenhower, Douglas by FDR, Burger by Nixon, Brennan by Eisenhower, Thurgood Marshall by LBJ, Powell by Nixon.

Yes, it's all there. All you have to know to determine everything about a justice's beliefs is which President nominated him.

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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by nafod » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:21 pm

motherjuggs&speed wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:06 pm
nafod wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:29 pm
DrDonkeyLove... wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:59 pm
Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:22 am
11F8DBBB-33F1-41F9-9799-7659D7BD9336.jpeg
This seems almost too good to be true.
If true, this board will probably be the place where it's most acknowledged.
That's her opinion of why the court (mostly appointed by Republicans at the time) cast the Roe versus Wade opinion, which was 20 years before she got on the court.

Look at who was in the majority on the opinion, and who nominated them to the court.

Puts a darker turn on it.
Blackmun was nominated by Nixon, Stewart by Eisenhower, Douglas by FDR, Burger by Nixon, Brennan by Eisenhower, Thurgood Marshall by LBJ, Powell by Nixon.

Yes, it's all there. All you have to know to determine everything about a justice's beliefs is which President nominated him.
I'm betting a lot of people are unaware of makeup of the Roe-v-Wade court.
Don’t believe everything you think.

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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by Fat Cat » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:28 pm

motherjuggs&speed wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:04 am
Fat Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:30 pm
motherjuggs&speed wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:26 am

Why? I don't get the love for RBG.
I don't agree with a lot of her decisions but she spent her life in service to the United States. Isn't that still worthy of appreciation?

Not by itself, no. A lot of people did that and did a lot of harm while they were at it.
Most people do harm and good over the course of their lives. I don't have to agree with her views to appreciate that she worked hard for her vision of the correct interpretation of law. And anyway, she's dead.
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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by Turdacious » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:20 pm

nafod wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:29 pm
DrDonkeyLove... wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:59 pm
Bennyonesix1 wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:22 am
11F8DBBB-33F1-41F9-9799-7659D7BD9336.jpeg
This seems almost too good to be true.
If true, this board will probably be the place where it's most acknowledged.
That's her opinion of why the court (mostly appointed by Republicans at the time) cast the Roe versus Wade opinion, which was 20 years before she got on the court.

Look at who was in the majority on the opinion, and who nominated them to the court.

Puts a darker turn on it.
More complicated than that. The move by more conservative Catholics to the Republican Party didn’t really start until Nixon won, and they’re the group that has always cared most about the issue.
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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by Fat Cat » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:24 pm

Abortion? Canceled.
Gay "marriage"? Canceled.
Women voting? Canceled.
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Post by Alfred_E._Neuman » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:52 pm

I've always wondered why Justices hang on until their death bed. If they're actually that concerned about the makeup of the court, why not step down when the political climate in Washington is amenable to selecting and confirming a Justice that's fairly in line with their views? RBG could have stepped down when Obama had the majority and we wouldn't have to go through this fiasco of hypocrisy of the Republicans forcing their nominee through under the exact circumstances they said were unacceptable for Obama to have his nominee confirmed.
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Re: RIP: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Dead!

Post by Fat Cat » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:57 pm

RBG was egotistical in this regard. Obama was sniffing around for her to step down way back in 2014, but she wouldn't have it. Then again, nobody likes being told they're too old and in the way.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... V020140801
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