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Re: The couch thread

Post by Grandpa's Spells » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:56 pm

"Our understanding is that the needs of Olympic athletes and our grandparents differ by degree, not kind."
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Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:11 pm

I saw a 60+ year old woman who had started crossfitting at about 55 or 56 and she was in stunning condition.

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Post by Grandpa's Spells » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:21 pm

Shafpocalypse Now wrote:I saw a 60+ year old woman who had started crossfitting at about 55 or 56 and she was in stunning condition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
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Re: The couch thread

Post by SubClaw » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:55 pm

Shafpocalypse Now wrote:I saw a 60+ year old woman who had started crossfitting at about 55 or 56 and she was in stunning condition.
So there's WoDing and, maybe, there's also a less retarded way to "do" Crossfit.

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Re: The couch thread

Post by johno » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:40 pm

SubClaw wrote: So there's WoDing and, maybe, there's also a less retarded way to "do" Crossfit.
And that could be called "circuit training." Maybe you could even circuit train in a Crossfit gym.
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Re: The couch thread

Post by syaigh » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:42 pm

kreator wrote:
Kenny X wrote:But has any @Fitter actually done well at an endurance event, after training with whatever protocols they're using?
Short answer, no.

The amorphous nature of Crossfit makes it impossible to say when you're doing Crossfit vs when you're just doing some S&C work. Take an Olympic 10k runner, have him do a few box jumps and pushups on an off day and it's fodder for them to claim he was built by Crossfit.
From what I hear, the CFE folks are now pushing this idea that they prescribed LSD all along and it was only the misinterpretation of that prescription by the masses that made it not work. (blame the consumers, not the design, and rewrite history)

But, all I remember is BMAC saying you never have to run more than 13 miles to train for a marathon. And then watching him fail over and over and over again to complete anything over 13 miles.
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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:49 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Shafpocalypse Now wrote:I saw a 60+ year old woman who had started crossfitting at about 55 or 56 and she was in stunning condition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
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Applies broadly.
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SubClaw wrote: So there's WoDing and, maybe, there's also a less retarded way to "do" Crossfit.
And that could be called "circuit training." Maybe you could even circuit train in a Crossfit gym.
And...I think Jazz Hands are in order.
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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:52 pm

CF=Religion of Peace.

Sure...there are plenty of good Muslim people, sure, plenty of them are secular scholarly reasonable folk, sure...these people can be found by the kajillion on all continents....just like non practicing Catholics and Jews, and Hindus...

but when it comes to the ideology and the way Islam/CF is intended to be practiced....when you READ THE ACTUAL WORDS

.....that shit is whacked and fundamentally incompatible with rational thought and sound sports practice.
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Post by SubClaw » Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:07 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote:CF=Religion of Peace.

Sure...there are plenty of good Muslim people, sure, plenty of them are secular scholarly reasonable folk, sure...these people can be found by the kajillion on all continents....just like non practicing Catholics and Jews, and Hindus...

but when it comes to the ideology and the way Islam/CF is intended to be practiced....when you READ THE ACTUAL WORDS

.....that shit is whacked and fundamentally incompatible with rational thought and sound sports practice.
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Post by Kenny X » Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:29 pm

syaigh wrote:
kreator wrote:
Kenny X wrote:But has any @Fitter actually done well at an endurance event, after training with whatever protocols they're using?
Short answer, no.

The amorphous nature of Crossfit makes it impossible to say when you're doing Crossfit vs when you're just doing some S&C work. Take an Olympic 10k runner, have him do a few box jumps and pushups on an off day and it's fodder for them to claim he was built by Crossfit.
From what I hear, the CFE folks are now pushing this idea that they prescribed LSD all along and it was only the misinterpretation of that prescription by the masses that made it not work. (blame the consumers, not the design, and rewrite history)

But, all I remember is BMAC saying you never have to run more than 13 miles to train for a marathon. And then watching him fail over and over and over again to complete anything over 13 miles.
MmmmmHM. There it is. That's the kind of hogwash that needs to be removed from CrossFit. That's just stupid and illogical, and anybody who'd believe that is a stupid, illogical person.
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Re: The couch thread

Post by Cave Canem » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:07 pm

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Re: The couch thread

Post by SubClaw » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:23 pm

As far as I remember, BMac said you didn't need to run more than 13 miles to compete in a marathon race. He never said a word about actually finishing it.

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Re: The couch thread

Post by Boris » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:27 am

So... did the Glock thing happen or not?

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Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:08 pm

Oh yeah it happened.

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Post by johno » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:53 pm

Christ! I was about to buy me another Glock.

Now I have to give that purchase a bit more thought....
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Post by Freki » Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:41 pm

Shafpocalypse Now wrote:Oh yeah it happened.
Background checks?
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Re: The couch thread

Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:21 pm

I think there was a ceremonial presentation, then the paperwork had to be processed before possession was taken

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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:56 pm

johno wrote:Christ! I was about to buy me another Glock.

Now I have to give that purchase a bit more thought....

That G43?

One of our mutual Pork Product friends directed me towards that one.
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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:06 pm

Shafpocalypse Now wrote: 5. You cannot say that Crossfit doesn't work. Spectators were jacked. Competitors were jacked. The fittest sports crowd I have ever seen. I suspect Crossfit, as exercise, has worked better for more people than any other kind of exercise program.

BOLWSHEET.

You're telling me the 1% of asshats ages 19-35 at all the boxes who are willing to pay oodles of cash to go to the Mecca, strip to their skivvies and parade about the cult walk are the sample you feel needs referencing?

Bitch Please. I'll find you an ocean of yoga hotties or figure competitors or just flat out athletes in any number of real sports that are populated with physically pleasing specimens.

I mean....we're all happy for you that you and the homunculus made nice...but don't empty your cortex so brazenly..it saddens us all.
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Re: The couch thread

Post by johno » Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:54 am

Blaidd Drwg wrote:
johno wrote:Christ! I was about to buy me another Glock.

Now I have to give that purchase a bit more thought....

That G43?

One of our mutual Pork Product friends directed me towards that one.

A G19 that I was going to cut down to G26 height. So it would be a double stack magazine.



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Post by SubClaw » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:41 am

Blaidd Drwg wrote:
Shafpocalypse Now wrote: 5. You cannot say that Crossfit doesn't work. Spectators were jacked. Competitors were jacked. The fittest sports crowd I have ever seen. I suspect Crossfit, as exercise, has worked better for more people than any other kind of exercise program.

BOLWSHEET.

You're telling me the 1% of asshats ages 19-35 at all the boxes who are willing to pay oodles of cash to go to the Mecca, strip to their skivvies and parade about the cult walk are the sample you feel needs referencing?

Bitch Please. I'll find you an ocean of yoga hotties or figure competitors or just flat out athletes in any number of real sports that are populated with physically pleasing specimens.

I mean....we're all happy for you that you and the homunculus made nice...but don't empty your cortex so brazenly..it saddens us all.
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Post by TerryB » Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:54 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote:CF=Religion of Peace.

Sure...there are plenty of good Muslim people, sure, plenty of them are secular scholarly reasonable folk, sure...these people can be found by the kajillion on all continents....just like non practicing Catholics and Jews, and Hindus...

but when it comes to the ideology and the way Islam/CF is intended to be practiced....when you READ THE ACTUAL WORDS

.....that shit is whacked and fundamentally incompatible with rational thought and sound sports practice.
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Re: The couch thread

Post by Ericc » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:44 pm

Kenny X wrote:
syaigh wrote:
kreator wrote:
Kenny X wrote:But has any @Fitter actually done well at an endurance event, after training with whatever protocols they're using?
Short answer, no.

The amorphous nature of Crossfit makes it impossible to say when you're doing Crossfit vs when you're just doing some S&C work. Take an Olympic 10k runner, have him do a few box jumps and pushups on an off day and it's fodder for them to claim he was built by Crossfit.
From what I hear, the CFE folks are now pushing this idea that they prescribed LSD all along and it was only the misinterpretation of that prescription by the masses that made it not work. (blame the consumers, not the design, and rewrite history)

But, all I remember is BMAC saying you never have to run more than 13 miles to train for a marathon. And then watching him fail over and over and over again to complete anything over 13 miles.
MmmmmHM. There it is. That's the kind of hogwash that needs to be removed from CrossFit. That's just stupid and illogical, and anybody who'd believe that is a stupid, illogical person.
A few years ago an owner of a local Crossfit Box showed up at the Catoctin 50k, as tough, technical and hilly as you'll find on the east coast. He told everyone and anyone he could corner that they had been training wrong and that he would win the race, set the new course record and then offer everyone a discount to his box to experience first hand the wonder of Xfit Endurance. No course specific training and nothing over 10 miles, lots of intervals, WODS, and some tempo work was what he told me he did leading up to the event. Needless to say he crashed and burned without making it to the halfway point. He showed up the next year with a few adjustments to his training (course specific training but still no more than 10 miles) and this time made it to the halfway point. Never saw him at a race again but he pops up on my FB page from time to time. No mention of ultras though.

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Post by powerlifter54 » Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:47 pm

Specificity is for insects. As long as insects is your new catch phrase for "winners".
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Re: The couch thread

Post by Chris McClinch » Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:29 pm

Yup. As general training for people with no specific competitive goals, non-retarded versions of Crossfit are fine--as are a lot of other things. If you're preparing to compete, though, it's time to get specific with your training.

One would think this was common sense.

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