that's a lot of good info
although i was reading some steve magness stuff the other day and he said people should focus on gettng the basics right, which accounts for about 99% of performance, and not chase the last 1% with magic potions.
what terry b said, except magness didn't come off as a dick.
Magness is a gem.
FWIW....Even saying that, "get the basics right"..is easier said than done...I thought I was doing the basics...then I hired a nutrition coach in March to help me drop a couple weight classes. I gained what calculates out to about 5 pounds of muscle while dropping 15 pounds of fat. Training for over 10 years steady, 48 years old, have used AAS in the past, currently on TRT...I shouldn;t be able to gain much muscle over the course of a month or three...nonetheless, my diet was such shite before hand, just the small intervention of eating real food protein and carbs had me busting out of shirts and down two pants sizes. The deal maker was a new slow cooker, a food scale and a macro tracking app.
Basics work if you work the basics.
This is the most daunting, to realise that all supplements, even those that really work, only add some benefit on top of the "basics", the solid protocol of exercise and diet. Agonising about loading doses of creatine or timing of post-workout protein is meaningless if the diet is not up to scratch.
On topic, when I took Acetyl-L-Carnitine (inspired by the dog de-ageing thread of course) I had few calmest days in my life - not giving a fuck about most things. But not in Valium-like don't give a fuck, but just being absolutely cool and lucid. The effect went away after about a week, and I was back on IGX vigorously arguing about meaningless shit.