Willpower depletion debunked

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Re: Willpower depletion debunked

Post by Sangoma » Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:11 am

I think the whole idea that the mind is divided into conscious and subconscious originates precisely because of the facts demonstrating that humans react rather than decide. Stimulus leads to automatic action, and when it happens we perceive it as conscious. Sometimes it's very obvious: you watch yourself doing something, as in Nafod's example above.

The division of the mind into conscious/subconscious is another kind of dualism and doesn't make much sense. If there is conscious and subconscious, then is there subconscious of the subconscious? And so on?

And then there is this New Age stuff: The Subconscious Mind
The subconscious mind does not exist. There is not anywhere a part of your consciousness that is inaccessible to you. What passes for the subconscious mind are usually habitual patterns of thought and belief, and sometimes, thoughts that impinge on you from mass consciousness, brought to you by the Law of Attraction, and based upon your current emotional state.
If you believe this stuff then actions follow habitual pattern of thoughts.
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Re: Willpower depletion debunked

Post by Blaidd Drwg » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:59 pm

Sangoma wrote:
The subconscious mind does not exist. There is not anywhere a part of your consciousness that is inaccessible to you. What passes for the subconscious mind are usually habitual patterns of thought and belief, and sometimes, thoughts that impinge on you from mass consciousness, brought to you by the Law of Attraction, and based upon your current emotional state.
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I think it's rather looking like the opposite. The subconscious mind does all the work and the consciousness or the *experience of being yourself, is a just an iterative, narrative process where you attach meaning to portions of the experience after the fact to that which has already happened. I think Nafod's nod in the direction of the "zone" or acting without conscious thought or noise is really where this separation gets explored. The truest experience of what it is to be you is to strip away the talky/judging/pattern seeking noisy fore-brain and let the balance of the mind and body do the thing it does. Acting without thought or judgement.
Have you ever considered any real freedoms? Freedoms from the opinion of others... even the opinions of yourself?
It's hilarious really that we put so much stock in the noisy experience of consciousness but 90% of the pursuits that truly inspire passion and devotion whether those be physical/spiritual/chemical are really about stripping the narrative process off the brain and just doing...just being.
"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." JS Mill

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