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Old Man Supplementing

Post by johno » Sat Nov 05, 2016 5:21 pm

After a painful & limiting glute strain (maybe from over-drilling Double Leg takedowns, maybe from getting taken down by a tough 20 year old), I started having annoying muscle cramps/spasms/tightness, especially at bedtime. Coincidentally, I was right at the spot in a nutrition book (Phinney & Volek) that recommended magnesium tablets for night time muscle cramps.

So, in combo with acupuncture & stretching & targeted glute exercises, I started a 3 tab a day routine of Slow Mag (magnesium chloride, slow release) for one month. Slowly, my symptoms decreased, then disappeared. Now I'm down to 1 tab per day...we'll see if this is sufficient to maintain.

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The only other supplements I take: daily Fish Oil and psyllium, and a weekly swack of Vit D.
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Post by TerryB » Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:22 pm

Your strain was from something acute. It resolved over the next month. Did magnesium have anything to do with it?
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Post by TomFurman » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:22 pm

Vitamin D, Fish Oil, Magnesium are kind of like the standards. Only thing I take extra is Tart Cherry Capsules. Nice hint from Shaf and did the research. Seems to help with DOMS, etc.
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Post by johno » Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:28 pm

TerryB wrote:Your strain was from something acute. It resolved over the next month. Did magnesium have anything to do with it?
Life is a mystery, my son.

I think the magnesium helped. I'll run a few years of randomized, double-blind studies and get back to you.
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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:08 pm

johno wrote:
TerryB wrote:Your strain was from something acute. It resolved over the next month. Did magnesium have anything to do with it?
Life is a mystery, my son.

I think the magnesium helped. I'll run a few years of randomized, double-blind studies and get back to you.
Mag/Cal I think has a mountain of research supporting it. When I remember to take mine, I notice a lot less hyper-tonicity in my neck and back. Even if it didn't directly work on healing the injury, getting everything else to let go is a huge benefit to overall pain levels.
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Post by ledfistaco » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:16 pm

What are the well absorbed forms of the cal mag? Thanks

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Post by johno » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:44 pm

Slow-Mag, the brand that was recommended, and that I used, uses Magnesium Chloride and Calcium Carbonate.
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Post by Testiclaw » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:50 pm

Test, small doses of aspirin, and cialis.
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Post by powerlifter54 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:42 pm

Testiclaw wrote:Test, small doses of aspirin, and cialis.
add creatine and gtg.
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Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:58 pm

Vit D
Fish oil/krill oil
Magnesium citrate fizzy (Vitacost's Natural Calm knock off)
Psyllium seed...I keep coming back to Metamucil and it's knock offs because the bigger flake psyllium doesn't mix as well
Zinc

Nothing I've found is magical.

There's a decent case to be made for a baby asprin a day

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Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:59 pm

Oh, wait, I did find that berberine knocked my blood sugar down like crazy...like from 80s to 60s...this is pretty brand specific though, I had a bottle from Amazon that didn't do shit, so I recommend Leaner Living's Glycosolve berberine formula

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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:05 pm

Pentosan. 2x per year. 6 week cycle
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Post by johno » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:12 pm

Shafpocalypse Now wrote: There's a decent case to be made for a baby asprin a day
I've gone back & forth on baby aspirin, but I've noticed that I bleed like crazy when on it - the slightest scrape in grappling often wouldn't stop, ending the session. So when I was working as a fire fighter, thinking trauma was a significant risk to me, I quit the aspirin.

Now retired, might go back on it.
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Post by Koko, Beware » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:36 pm

Gut health has become a big deal for me lately. Used to think it was kind of quackery but shit...turns out that happier gut does equal happier brain for me. So, bone broth/gelatin and a quality probiotic.
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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:38 pm

johno wrote:
Shafpocalypse Now wrote: There's a decent case to be made for a baby asprin a day
I've gone back & forth on baby aspirin, but I've noticed that I bleed like crazy when on it - the slightest scrape in grappling often wouldn't stop, ending the session. So when I was working as a fire fighter, thinking trauma was a significant risk to me, I quit the aspirin.

Now retired, might go back on it.

Hmmm..

Mos definitely stay away form Pentosan then.
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Post by Croatoa » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:43 pm

Vitamin D and a quality probiotic. Could be coincidental but I haven't been sick in a couple of years since making vitamin d and probiotics a regular thing.
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Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:04 pm

I keep losing pentosan sources. I'd run another cycle for sure, it's been damn near since 2000.

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Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:07 pm

https://horseprerace.com/pentosan-gold-50ml/#

I've bought the horse ulcer medication here...

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Post by Ryan » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:22 pm

Koko, Beware wrote:Gut health has become a big deal for me lately. Used to think it was kind of quackery but shit...turns out that happier gut does equal happier brain for me. So, bone broth/gelatin and a quality probiotic.
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Post by Mickey O'neil » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:55 am

Koko and Croatoa, what probiotic are y'all using?

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Post by The Venerable Bogatir X » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:28 am

RE: Probiotics. Having colitis, I can say that chugging some good quality Kefir everyday makes a big difference. Good Kefir is cheaper than a quality probiotic pill, too.

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Post by buckethead » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:43 am

The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:RE: Probiotics. Having colitis, I can say that chugging some good quality Kefir everyday makes a big difference. Good Kefir is cheaper than a quality probiotic pill, too.
Is there any brand/flavor of kefir that doesn't make you want to vomit

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Post by The Venerable Bogatir X » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:54 am

buckethead wrote:
The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:RE: Probiotics. Having colitis, I can say that chugging some good quality Kefir everyday makes a big difference. Good Kefir is cheaper than a quality probiotic pill, too.
Is there any brand/flavor of kefir that doesn't make you want to vomit
The key phrase is 'chugging'....don't sip it like a good Bourbon. I honestly could give two shits about organic this or that, but my wife is all about organic stuff, much to the dismay of my checkcard, so she buys me all this Kefir stuff. Wallaby is the one in my fridge now. The one prior to that was some Greek yogurt kefir. Go to the refrigerated area of your supermarket in the crunchy section and you'll see a brand or three.

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Post by Croatoa » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:14 am

Mickey O'neil wrote:Koko and Croatoa, what probiotic are y'all using?
I was taking the liquid stuff by BIO-K but it just wasn't cost effective.

Now I'm taking this stuff.

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Re: Old Man Supplementing

Post by Thud » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:22 am

Old man supps should probably include prostate health. Life Extension Ultra Natural Prostate was the one a complementary dr recommended to me.
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