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l-carnitine

Post by dead man walking » Fri May 19, 2017 4:09 pm

anyone got any experience with this?

the article in the times suggests is works. not sure how much you have to take, and apparently it takes months to build up to effective levels, unless you get an infusion.
In January 2011, Salazar became aware of research from the University of Nottingham in England that appeared to show significant improvement in performance when athletes raised their L-carnitine to extremely high, unnatural levels. (L-carnitine is a substance that occurs naturally in the body and helps convert fat to energy. As a supplement, it is not a banned substance, according to the World Anti-Doping Agency.)
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Re: l-carnitine

Post by dead man walking » Fri May 19, 2017 5:32 pm

i remember there was a thread about alcar, so went back and looked.

go dog go wrote about de-aging his dog, and l-carnitine was one of the ingredients in the magic pill.

what resulted is 10 pages of thoughtful and incisive comments, including jeek and andy. the john brothers said the l-carnitine combo is good stuff, and at last report in about 2014, gary was still taking it.

this was all mostly before 2011, when the british study came out, and no one don't discusses building to the unnaturally high levels that the british study looked at. apparently, if a little is good, more must be better.
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Post by Shapecharge » Fri May 19, 2017 5:42 pm

If you've got herpes, either downstairs or the on the lip variety you can probably count on increased outbreak if you supplement with this.

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Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Fri May 19, 2017 6:28 pm

ALCAR or acetyl L carnitine is the 'dog' ingredient.

I've heard L Carnitine, the amino acid, actually does some shit when solvated and injected subcutaneously, but I don't remember what it was.

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Post by TerryB » Sat May 20, 2017 11:08 pm

Yes, you should use it. Surely it's whats the missing link keeping you from world records in your sport, or why you're fatter than you deserve.
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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Mon May 22, 2017 5:04 pm

Shafpocalypse Now wrote:ALCAR or acetyl L carnitine is the 'dog' ingredient.

I've heard L Carnitine, the amino acid, actually does some shit when solvated and injected subcutaneously, but I don't remember what it was.

Tried it. Overrated for PL. definitely works for endurance according to research. It works to raise RBC's just like test already does. There are some other benefits I think. Injectable shit was also supposed to be good for fat loss but I can;t find any research supporting that.

My Icelandic buddy swears by it for his CF girls.

https://www.lifemasterynutrition.com/lo ... carnitine/

also...it needs inulin to be transported to the cells. so exegenous insulin or very high GI carbs are needed to spike Insulin timed with injections. Obv. slin caries it's own issues.
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Re: l-carnitine

Post by dead man walking » Mon May 22, 2017 7:38 pm

that's a lot of good info

thanks

although i was reading some steve magness stuff the other day and he said people should focus on gettng the basics right, which accounts for about 99% of performance, and not chase the last 1% with magic potions.

what terry b said, except magness didn't come off as a dick.
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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Mon May 22, 2017 9:05 pm

dead man walking wrote:that's a lot of good info

thanks

although i was reading some steve magness stuff the other day and he said people should focus on gettng the basics right, which accounts for about 99% of performance, and not chase the last 1% with magic potions.

what terry b said, except magness didn't come off as a dick.

Magness is a gem.

FWIW....Even saying that, "get the basics right"..is easier said than done...I thought I was doing the basics...then I hired a nutrition coach in March to help me drop a couple weight classes. I gained what calculates out to about 5 pounds of muscle while dropping 15 pounds of fat. Training for over 10 years steady, 48 years old, have used AAS in the past, currently on TRT...I shouldn;t be able to gain much muscle over the course of a month or three...nonetheless, my diet was such shite before hand, just the small intervention of eating real food protein and carbs had me busting out of shirts and down two pants sizes. The deal maker was a new slow cooker, a food scale and a macro tracking app.

Basics work if you work the basics.
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Post by dead man walking » Mon May 22, 2017 9:43 pm

that's impressive.

when does the e-book come out?

best source of "real" protein--fish, chicken, red meat, greek yogurt, and . . . .tofu?
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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Mon May 22, 2017 9:56 pm

dead man walking wrote:that's impressive.

when does the e-book come out?

best source of "real" protein--fish, chicken, red meat, greek yogurt, and . . . .tofu?

I don't do nutrition...I can tell you how to get unfat...but not in a healthy way.

The real protein I stick to is lean beef, chicken, turkey, fish, full fat greek yogurt, cottage cheese. That's about it.

I will use powders pre and post workout if I have to.
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Post by JimZipCode » Tue May 23, 2017 10:46 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote: My Icelandic buddy swears by it for his CF girls.
Pics of those CF girls, please.
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Post by Sangoma » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:02 am

Blaidd Drwg wrote:
Mon May 22, 2017 9:05 pm
dead man walking wrote:that's a lot of good info

thanks

although i was reading some steve magness stuff the other day and he said people should focus on gettng the basics right, which accounts for about 99% of performance, and not chase the last 1% with magic potions.

what terry b said, except magness didn't come off as a dick.

Magness is a gem.

FWIW....Even saying that, "get the basics right"..is easier said than done...I thought I was doing the basics...then I hired a nutrition coach in March to help me drop a couple weight classes. I gained what calculates out to about 5 pounds of muscle while dropping 15 pounds of fat. Training for over 10 years steady, 48 years old, have used AAS in the past, currently on TRT...I shouldn;t be able to gain much muscle over the course of a month or three...nonetheless, my diet was such shite before hand, just the small intervention of eating real food protein and carbs had me busting out of shirts and down two pants sizes. The deal maker was a new slow cooker, a food scale and a macro tracking app.

Basics work if you work the basics.
This is the most daunting, to realise that all supplements, even those that really work, only add some benefit on top of the "basics", the solid protocol of exercise and diet. Agonising about loading doses of creatine or timing of post-workout protein is meaningless if the diet is not up to scratch.

On topic, when I took Acetyl-L-Carnitine (inspired by the dog de-ageing thread of course) I had few calmest days in my life - not giving a fuck about most things. But not in Valium-like don't give a fuck, but just being absolutely cool and lucid. The effect went away after about a week, and I was back on IGX vigorously arguing about meaningless shit.
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Post by Mickey O'neil » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:58 am

Timely thread. I've been wanting to start back on this for a long while now.

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Re: l-carnitine

Post by dead man walking » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:35 pm

Sangoma wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:02 am
vigorously arguing about meaningless shit.
that's life.

suggestions to the contrary are idiotic.
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