JUDO: August 10-12, 2018 Budapest Grand Prix Highlights

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JUDO: August 10-12, 2018 Budapest Grand Prix Highlights

Post by Fat Cat » Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:00 am



Best highlight I can find so far. Go here for excellent individual matches:

https://www.ijf.org/competition/1588/vi ... _0100_0067
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Re: JUDO: August 10-12, 2018 Budapest Grand Prix Highlights

Post by Kazuya Mishima » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:24 pm

I thought the Danish bae at around 2:17 was going to rip that chick's head off with the collar choke. The throws are just beautiful, but there are some surprisingly quick and brutal subs on here, as well.

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Re: JUDO: August 10-12, 2018 Budapest Grand Prix Highlights

Post by Fat Cat » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:35 pm

Judo groundwork is always spastic. When they clap something on they go 100%.
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Re: JUDO: August 10-12, 2018 Budapest Grand Prix Highlights

Post by JimZipCode » Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:32 pm

Fat Cat wrote:
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Judo groundwork is always spastic. When they clap something on they go 100%.
They gotta work fast, or the ref is going to stand them back up and make them fight from there again. The refs only give them a few seconds to make obvious progress toward a sub or pin, before getting them back up. There's no allowance for letting things play out on the ground, as there is in BJJ.
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Re: JUDO: August 10-12, 2018 Budapest Grand Prix Highlights

Post by Fat Cat » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:56 pm



Finally, the official highlight is up.
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Re: JUDO: August 10-12, 2018 Budapest Grand Prix Highlights

Post by JasonC » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:42 am

FC, lately I've been watching judo highlight vids, and I've got questions for someone who knows his shit, and you're it:

1) What exactly does it take for a throw to be ruled an ippon? Even after some quick google-fu, I haven't found what I expected in the way of objective standards.

2) Has there been "grade inflation" in what counts as an ippon? Someone somewhere told me to think of an ippon as a throw that would be a fight-stopper on Teh StReET, so I've been surprised to see some ippons that look really un-traumatic. (Like ones where tori and uke seem like they hit the ground equally hard.) Did I just get the wrong information?

3) Speaking of The STREEEEEt, when dudes get thrown dead-to-rights on pavement, how often is that really a fight stopper? I voyeuristically looked for vids like "huge fokin slams in street fights!!" and figured they'd be full of blood-curdling, Gerald Harris-like slam KOs but ... maybe not so much?

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Re: JUDO: August 10-12, 2018 Budapest Grand Prix Highlights

Post by Fat Cat » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:39 pm

JasonC wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:42 am
FC, lately I've been watching judo highlight vids, and I've got questions for someone who knows his shit, and you're it:

1) What exactly does it take for a throw to be ruled an ippon? Even after some quick google-fu, I haven't found what I expected in the way of objective standards.

2) Has there been "grade inflation" in what counts as an ippon? Someone somewhere told me to think of an ippon as a throw that would be a fight-stopper on Teh StReET, so I've been surprised to see some ippons that look really un-traumatic. (Like ones where tori and uke seem like they hit the ground equally hard.) Did I just get the wrong information?

3) Speaking of The STREEEEEt, when dudes get thrown dead-to-rights on pavement, how often is that really a fight stopper? I voyeuristically looked for vids like "huge fokin slams in street fights!!" and figured they'd be full of blood-curdling, Gerald Harris-like slam KOs but ... maybe not so much?
1. Hey brah. To score ippon the throw must land your opponent flat on his back with sufficient force and/or speed. I believe for a clean throw where the opponent lands less cleanly or on his side you get a half point, or waza-ari. Finally, for a good throw that isn't quite a waza-ari, you can score an advantage or yuko.

2. The "idea" of judo is to throw your opponent, and the level of athleticism is so high in judo, that to truly score a holy-shit-that's-an-ippon throw is hard. Very hard. To that extent you may see things scored ippon which are not necessarily throws that would disable an opponent on teh streetz. If they didn't, you would almost never see ippon scored in high-level competition, or at least a lot more rarely. It should still be a decisive throw. As for throws where tori and uke land at more or less the same time, it depends. In some cases these are sutemi-waza or "sacrifice techniques" where the opponent is thrown by lowering your own body. In other cases, you will see tori roll through; that's a purely sport aspect of judo and doesn't have utility in a fight.

3. Disabling an enraged attacker is waaay harder than most people think. I have personally dumped people on their head on pavement and got nothing but a grunt. OTOH, twice I have thrown people with harai-goshi, landed on them, broke their ribs and instantly ended the fights. Generally speaking, throws and submission holds will not stop a motivated attacker. When in doubt, sleep 'em.
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