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Interesting bit of advice I found in Outside magazine

Post by Bram » Sun May 03, 2020 12:25 am

I've been getting back into doing yoga a few days a week, mostly self-directed, but without much thought beyond generally targeting the entire body.

This paragraph struck me:

“Athletes are usually drawn to power yoga because it feels like a workout, but if you’re working hard in your chosen sport, find a practice that offers countermovements,” she says. For instance, kayakers typically have tight hips, shoulders, and chests, so they need to practice yoga that opens the upper body and hips. Cyclists tend to have overworked quads and weak glutes, so their yoga practice should strengthen the posterior chain while stretching the front of the legs.

https://www.outsideonline.com/2412158/a ... al-balance

As a surfer, I spend a huge amount of time paddling (arching my lower back, lifting my head). It makes sense to emphasize lengthening my hamstrings and strengthening my abs to compensate (like adding boat pose), but I hadn't had that aha-moment.

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Re: Interesting bit of advice I found in Outside magazine

Post by Wild Bill » Mon May 04, 2020 8:22 am

Do not like boat pose, it hurts tail bone.
I always replaced it with lsit.

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Re: Interesting bit of advice I found in Outside magazine

Post by Bram » Mon May 04, 2020 5:41 pm

I'm adding it in yoga to compensate for my surfing.

I know you do gymnastics training, so there's already going to be a lot of hamstring lengthening and ab engagement with your l-sit and various ab exercises. Are there areas of your training that are under or overdeveloped? I think of gymnastics as being well-rounded in strength and flexibility, but maybe some of your muscle groups need some strengthening and lengthening.

Also, I'm not sure what the leg training is like that you are doing, but if it hurts to sit in boat pose, more leg muscle [squats, deadlifts, glute-ham raises] should give you more padding, that or using a thicker mat. Or you can just stick with l-sits :)
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Post by Wild Bill » Mon May 04, 2020 5:46 pm

Well, i am like the person from your example just do power yoga :)

For legs i doing pistol squats.
About Boat-pose, problem not in lack of strength, problem in tail bone. I just not feel good in this pose. I can do it only on something soft and i do not like it.

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Post by Wild Bill » Mon May 04, 2020 5:49 pm

I do not do gymnastic. I do not do their stretching, etc.
I just do some strength bodyweight drills, can not call it gymnastic.

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Post by Bram » Mon May 04, 2020 5:56 pm

Ahh, gotcha. I used to have the same problem with boat pose, but then I gained 20 pounds haha. And we all have our individual differences, better to avoid the stuff that doesn't work for us.
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Post by SubClaw » Tue May 05, 2020 5:11 am

I always thought that modern Yoga needs A LOT of pulling poses. But if the yogi is a grappler, maybe it all balances out.
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Re: Interesting bit of advice I found in Outside magazine

Post by Wild Bill » Tue May 05, 2020 5:57 am

Doubt that pulling poses are possible without bar o pole.
Can't imagine such pose.

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Post by SubClaw » Tue May 05, 2020 10:02 am

Wild Bill wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:57 am
Doubt that pulling poses are possible without bar o pole.
Can't imagine such pose.
Bar, pole, rope, TRX... why not?

The Yoga we all know is a very modern thing, not the Yoga that has been around for millenia.
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Post by Wild Bill » Tue May 05, 2020 11:24 am

SubClaw wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 10:02 am
Wild Bill wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:57 am
Doubt that pulling poses are possible without bar o pole.
Can't imagine such pose.
Bar, pole, rope, TRX... why not?

The Yoga we all know is a very modern thing, not the Yoga that has been around for millenia.
Absolutely agree. Even GSers needs to add pullups in training :)

But it will be difficult for those, who only do yoga in yoga classes and nothing more.
Can't imagine how yoga gurus will combine pullups and "namaste" :)

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Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Tue May 05, 2020 6:05 pm

This is something that Scott Sonnon has promoted for 15-20 years.

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Re: Interesting bit of advice I found in Outside magazine

Post by Bram » Tue May 05, 2020 6:32 pm

Scott Sonnon promotes pull-ups + yoga in his training programs?

I've had that discussion (lack of pulling) with yoga teachers. They fall into two groups - those who do pull-ups, rows, and perhaps external rotation work. And those that say simply doing things like a lying back extension, a reverse plank, or warrior 3 with the arms extended does enough to balance it out.

The stress of crow vs. warrior 3 is fairly night and day.
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Post by Fat Cat » Tue May 05, 2020 7:03 pm

Mallkhamb is the droid you're looking for.



It's pole dancing for well-oiled subcontinentals and is the "pulling" aspect of traditional vyayam. There is also a rope-climbing version of this:

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Post by Bram » Tue May 05, 2020 7:18 pm

Fat Cat with the super deep and bizarre knowledge base.

hahah, that would definitely balance it out
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Post by kreator » Wed May 06, 2020 6:55 pm

Seems easy enough to learn.

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Post by Fat Cat » Wed May 06, 2020 7:00 pm

kreator wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 6:55 pm
Seems easy enough to learn.
It's culturally appropriated pole dancing.
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Re: Interesting bit of advice I found in Outside magazine

Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Thu May 07, 2020 6:34 pm

no sonnon promoted 'opposing' movements to help deload the area worked

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