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Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Hanglow Joe » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:36 pm

Anybody quit doing certain exercises because their body couldn't take it anymore?

I quit doing windmills. My SI joint popped a couple of years ago and since then, when I've tried it, I get immediate feedback.

Also heavy snatches. Don't need elbow tendonitis for 4 months, and I like my hands calloused but not hamburger meat. My go to bell is now a 45.

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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by JasonC » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:13 pm

Heavy TGUs -- They grind up my elbows
Light TGUs -- They're boring
High-rep snatches -- Even with GS technique, they beat me over time.
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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by SubClaw » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:24 pm

Not because my body can't take it, but I profoundly dislike:

- One arm swings.

- TGUs.

- Snatches.

- Bent press.

- Windmills.

- Tactical lunges n

I seem to avoid almost everything in the SF catalog.
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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Fat Cat » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:50 pm

It's funny the commonality. For me, I really ONLY do: swings, cleans, presses, snatches, and jerks, and only the first three with any frequency. I guess I do use KBs for a few other moves like get-up sit-ups, halos, and goblet squats, but just for a few reps in the morning.

Ones that are totally removed from my repertoire: TGUs, windmills, bent press, side press, and anything bottoms up.
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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Hanglow Joe » Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:20 pm

I agree Jason, I remember doing TGU's with an 88 and how sore my elbows would get. 10 TGU's on each side with a 24 kg, is a nice little workout. I don't think there is any magic to them, but they're good.

I used to love snatching, but I'm just not that crazy about it anymore.

2 hand swings > 1 hand

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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by aussie luke » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:21 pm

Out:

TGUs
double kb anything
One arm swings
Clean and press

In:
low rep snatches (24kg) and two-hand swings (32-48kg) sets of 5-7 on the minute x 20-30 mins
Goblet squats
One arm clean, press, front squat combo
Press for reps (instead of clean and press)

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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Fat Cat » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:48 pm

Hanglow Joe wrote:
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2 hand swings > 1 hand
Why? I do swings a lot but never two-handed swings. To me one hand is better because of its grip emphasis.
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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Hanglow Joe » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:58 pm

I'm the opposite. If you do high volume 2 hand swings, your hands get less of a break and grip gets fried

My back barks if I do heavy high rep 1 hand swings. I'd rather snatch than one hand swing, but the hands are always an issue in the summer with the humidity

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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by SubClaw » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:47 am

Fat Cat wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:48 pm
Hanglow Joe wrote:
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2 hand swings > 1 hand
Why? I do swings a lot but never two-handed swings. To me one hand is better because of its grip emphasis.
The only thing I like about one hand swings is the anti-rotation component. But I'd rather do heavier, snappier swings using two hands.

Come to think of it... I almost never do any single bell work (I'd rather be doing double KB cleans than any kind of swing or snatch).
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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Hanglow Joe » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:42 am

SubClaw wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:47 am
Fat Cat wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:48 pm
Hanglow Joe wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:20 pm
2 hand swings > 1 hand
Why? I do swings a lot but never two-handed swings. To me one hand is better because of its grip emphasis.
The only thing I like about one hand swings is the anti-rotation component. But I'd rather do heavier, snappier swings using two hands.

Come to think of it... I almost never do any single bell work (I'd rather be doing double KB cleans than any kind of swing or snatch).
I have gone back to single bells for a little bit and really enjoy them. I like the minimalism of just 1 bell, take it anywhere if you please.

Funny how we are all different, I don't enjoy cleans as a ballistic unless pressing or jerking.

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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Boris » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:43 pm

I still do:
*high rep snatches - 16kg bell for high reps is actually pretty low impact aerobic work for me. I can go for 30-60mins (at 10rpm, switching on the minute) and I don't mind the boredom.
*windmills - I don't go heavy and I don't push range of motion. It does good things for my mobility.

I'm not against pressing w. kettlebells, but I don't do them much. I should do Halos and thumb-press, but almost never do them.

I don't and have no desire to do:
*swings
*turkish get ups
*bent-press
*etc, etc, etc.

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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by aussie luke » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:51 pm

Hanglow Joe wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:42 am
SubClaw wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:47 am
Fat Cat wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:48 pm
Hanglow Joe wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:20 pm
2 hand swings > 1 hand
Why? I do swings a lot but never two-handed swings. To me one hand is better because of its grip emphasis.
The only thing I like about one hand swings is the anti-rotation component. But I'd rather do heavier, snappier swings using two hands.

Come to think of it... I almost never do any single bell work (I'd rather be doing double KB cleans than any kind of swing or snatch).
I have gone back to single bells for a little bit and really enjoy them. I like the minimalism of just 1 bell, take it anywhere if you please.

Funny how we are all different, I don't enjoy cleans as a ballistic unless pressing or jerking.
I also think a single bell reminds you of why kettlebells can be so great in the first place. It’s all you really need. The more kettlebells you add the more complicated and less fun the whole thing becomes.

Before you know it you might as well have a full rack of dumbbells in 2.5kg increments

If a couple of my bells didn’t have some sentimental value I’d probably have sold them all and just have a single 28kg bell which would do for just about anything.


Also if you don’t enjoy cleans on their own, as I never have, try doing what I guess you’d call “dead-stop” cleans: do one and lower the bell to the floor, pause and repeat. Somehow it seems a much better lift that way and much harder on the heart rate.

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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Hanglow Joe » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:15 pm

Thanks for the advice Luke, I'll try it.

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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Sangoma » Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:10 am

Just a reminder these things are heavy.

I failed a Turkish Get Up and broke my wrist
Yesterday, I was working through simple and sinister, as I have been doing multiple times per week for the past 6 months. I have been progressing well and fully own the 32kg; the 40kg was moving well for swings and a getup here and there. This particular session, I completed swings with the 40, a getup each side with the 40, and had begun getups with the 32.

On my right handed rep, somewhere between getting down from high sit to floor, something went wrong. I lost balance, the bell headed toward my face, and I used my left hand to deflect. Everything happened very quickly, like crashing or falling. I reacted as best as I could.

The bell landed on my open palm while my elbow was on the floor, forearm vertical, compressing the radius. My wrist broke. At the ER, they confirmed I had a "foosh" break, or "falling on outstretched hand", like is seen in snowboard or mountain bike injuries. Ironically, I do both of those activities, but this is my first broken bone in my life.

I'm not sure of my point of this post, but I wanted to share. The getup can be dangerous. You're not invincible. The words of Dan John, in which he questions the value of heavy getups, ring loud in my mind.

I guess I'm probably out for a few months. I'll look for ways to prevent total mass loss; swings with my right hand, squats in the right rack, right hand ohp, lots of walking. That's down the road, though. Tomorrow I see a hand specialist to see if I need surgery and to get a cast.

That's my story. I'm lucky it wasn't the 40kg that fell, or my face where the bell landed, I might be dead. Small victories. f*** 2020.
In the early days of kettlebells and girevoy sport there were several stories of people breaking their forearm with snatches, but not with more grinding lifts. I personally don't like TGUs, so haven't done much of them. I can see their potential for injury when you get tired.
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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Wild Bill » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:10 am

I stopped all of them.
And sold all my kettlebells.

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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by SubClaw » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:43 am

Wild Bill wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:10 am
I stopped all of them.
And sold all my kettlebells.
And got fat. :finga:
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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Hanglow Joe » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:14 pm

Getdown is always harder than the getup doing heavy bells.

Here is the problem with StrongFirst's philosophy and Pavel's in general. For a lot of people, whether it be Simple and Stupid, Rite of Passage, or doing barbell work, there is a certain point where your strength plateaus without the aid of substances. A lot of these sheep have no right doing TGU's with 40's or the ROP with a 36. You're going to get hurt, especially when fatigue sets in.

How many people got nicked up doing the ROP with a 32? If you weight under 200, your joints and tendons can't take the volume.

I'm not saying you can't get strong, the ROP does work, but at a certain point things need to change up.

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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Fat Cat » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:14 pm

Wild Bill wrote:
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I stopped all of them.
And sold all my kettlebells.
Why, though? Did you just get sick of them? Or did you decide that they weren't effective? To me, I can't see why it's an all or nothing affair. The training you do now is fine, but it doesn't lay much emphasis on the legs, does it?
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Post by Wild Bill » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:53 pm

Fat Cat wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:14 pm
Wild Bill wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:10 am
I stopped all of them.
And sold all my kettlebells.
Why, though? Did you just get sick of them?
No.

Well... its long story as always ... :) Started in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.
It all started when wife boutght tonometer. Funny it is now, she thought she had high blood pressur, but she was ok.
Then one sad day i decided to measur my blood pressure.
and it was 150/1000

Then i did many stupid things.
Stupidiest was that i bought one drug without prescription and used it.
Next day i had (as i think now) a panic attack, but in any case i ended up in cardiac department in hospital. It felt not enough oxigen, etc...
They did analises but could not find anything, but they stuffed me with many others drugs :(
Diagnosis was cardiac ischemia.
When i left hospital i mentally was prepared to die, not joking at all :( When i tried to training heart gone mad. Blood pressure some days was 180/120.
Then i thought i not able to train with kettlebells anymore. I really about year long every day waited it would be last day :( and started to train bodyweight out of desperation.
Then we travelled to Kaliningrad, wife was afraid that i will die during trawel :) but i insisted.

And only after about three years, in Moscow i came to neuropathologist. Long story short, i have hernia in the cervical spine and this is cause of blood pressure problems and panic attacks. The heart itself is ok.
I drank a course of sedatives, and now i felt practically good.
Actually i feel i able to train with kettlebells again, but i already sold them.
And i already fell in love in bodyweight stuff.

Tried as i could with my English, but hope you get the gist of story.

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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Wild Bill » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:56 pm

Fat Cat wrote:
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The training you do now is fine, but it doesn't lay much emphasis on the legs, does it?
Pistol squats and pegtop :) by my feelings it is enough for me.

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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Fat Cat » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:28 pm

Wild Bill wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:53 pm
Fat Cat wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:14 pm
Wild Bill wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:10 am
I stopped all of them.
And sold all my kettlebells.
Why, though? Did you just get sick of them?
No.

Well... its long story as always ... :) Started in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.
It all started when wife boutght tonometer. Funny it is now, she thought she had high blood pressur, but she was ok.
Then one sad day i decided to measur my blood pressure.
and it was 150/1000

Then i did many stupid things.
Stupidiest was that i bought one drug without prescription and used it.
Next day i had (as i think now) a panic attack, but in any case i ended up in cardiac department in hospital. It felt not enough oxigen, etc...
They did analises but could not find anything, but they stuffed me with many others drugs :(
Diagnosis was cardiac ischemia.
When i left hospital i mentally was prepared to die, not joking at all :( When i tried to training heart gone mad. Blood pressure some days was 180/120.
Then i thought i not able to train with kettlebells anymore. I really about year long every day waited it would be last day :( and started to train bodyweight out of desperation.
Then we travelled to Kaliningrad, wife was afraid that i will die during trawel :) but i insisted.

And only after about three years, in Moscow i came to neuropathologist. Long story short, i have hernia in the cervical spine and this is cause of blood pressure problems and panic attacks. The heart itself is ok.
I drank a course of sedatives, and now i felt practically good.
Actually i feel i able to train with kettlebells again, but i already sold them.
And i already fell in love in bodyweight stuff.

Tried as i could with my English, but hope you get the gist of story.
Sorry that happened. Panic attacks can definitely feel like you're having a heart attack, that's most people's immediate conclusion, and the fear just compounds it. How is your blood pressure now?
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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by Wild Bill » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:39 pm

Fat Cat wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:28 pm
How is your blood pressure now?
Mostly norm.
I still take some drugs, byt minimal doses. keep a pressure diary, doing neck gymnastic.

Do not laugh, its good :)


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Post by Fat Cat » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:44 pm

It's smart to do that, good for you.
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Re: Kettlebell Exercises You Stopped Doing

Post by davidc » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:33 pm

My jam has always been long cycle clean and jerk. But the older I get, the harder it is to manage overuse injuries. I’d gotten to where I could manage the elbow issues. But now I have to watch shoulders, too. I hate It because when I have long cycle dialed in it’s like being in perfect shape for any kind of manual labor, and the forearm and grip strength is amazing.
Long story short I think I’ve had to retire from GS. I just can’t build the volume to compete without causing a shoulder or elbow issue.
I also can’t do high volume TGUs either. I can use them as a warmup, or occasionally work up a decent single. But I can’t do simple and sinister for more than a couple weeks without having sore shoulders.
Lately I’ve used my kbs for swings, front squats, carries, rows and presses. I just like them better than dumbbells.

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