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Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:27 pm

quick background: 6'2", 210#, 41 yrs old, herniated L3-4 with sciatica and bilat damaged facets around 4 mos ago
workout in my garage with power rack mainly; also have KB's and Water Rower (both on hold for now due to the agony that results after about 10 mins)
I do shift work (ER MD) and so workout days vary (as does amount of rest); I generally try to do 1 lift a day which seems to work well for me
Have started doing YRG because I'm tired of the back soreness
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:31 pm

29 Jan: push jerks 232# 3x1, 242# 3x1, 252# 15x1, 242# 4x1 on 75 sec intervals
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:32 pm

30 Jan: BP 205# 12x2 on 2' intervals
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:35 pm

2 Feb: chins 20# 7x5,5x3 and dips 40# 8x5, alternating on 90sec ints
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:36 pm

4 Feb: push jerks 233# 3x1, 243# 3x1, 253# 15x1 on 75 sec ints
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:37 pm

5 Feb: BP 207.5# 15x2 on 90 sec ints
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:41 pm

6 FEB: DL from #5 pin (18" off floor, I'm over 6'; if I go any lower, the back pain/sciatica is intense) 315# 15x2 on 90 sec ints
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:42 pm

10 FEB: DL from #4 pin (bad idea, very sore since, I feel like -S-) 315# 15x2 on 90 sec ints
followed by BP 210# 15x2 on 90 sec ints
goal with DL's would be to reach ~500# and then gradually decrease ROM to pin #3 perhaps and then increase poundage from there
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:43 pm

11 FEB: push jerks 234# 3x1, 244# 3x1, 254# 15x1, 244# 4x1 on 75 sec ints
later that night did 20' YRG basic workout from DVD
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:45 pm

12 FEB: partial back squats (to #18 pin, hurt too much to go deeper) 315# 15x2 on 90 secs ints; goal will be to continue these until at least mid 400's and then increase ROM slowly if no further back discomfort for at least 6 weeks prior (and then begin increasing poundage again)
will do some YRG 20' workout again tonight
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:59 pm

13 FEB: superset chins 22.5# with dips 42.5# on 3' intervals: 6x5, 3x2/8x5
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:06 pm

14 FEB: DL from #5 pin 325# 15x2 on 90 sec ints
followed by BP 212.5# 15x2 on 90 sec ints

music: Barry Manilow supersetted with Air Supply
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:32 pm

15 FEB: 20' YRG workout

music: blessed Yanni (sometimes I like Cat Stevens to get me pumped up, but Yanni just felt more right today; I'm very intuitive with my training that way)
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:29 pm

16 FEB: partial back squats (to #18 pin, basically a 1/2 squat at my height) 325# 15x2 on 90 secs ints


music: Elton John's Greatest Hits, vol. 2; I don't know what Louie listens to at WSB, but in MY garage, squat day and EJ go hand-in-hand.
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:28 pm

17 FEB: push jerks 235# 3x1, 245# 3x1, 255# 15x1, 245# 4x1 on 75 sec ints (except the last 5 jerks with 255# were done on 90 sec ints)
Will do some YRG later (had to cancel this, got too drunk at dinner).

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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:19 pm

18 FEB: superset chins 25# with dips 45# on 3' intervals: 5x5, 3x3/8x5
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:42 pm

20 FEB: DL from #5 pin 335# 15x2 on 90 sec ints
followed by BP 215# 15x2 on 90 sec ints

music: the late, great Dan Fogelberg

did 20' YRG workout this evening
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:12 pm

21 FEB: partial back squats (to #18 pin) 335# 15x2 on 90 secs ints

music: Theme from I Dream of Jeannie
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Re: Herniated Disc Garage Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:52 pm

25 FEB: push jerks 236# 3x1, 246# 3x1, 256# 15x1, 246# 4x1 (75 sec ints for the lighter singles with the heavy singles on 90 sec ints)

partial back squats (to #18 pin) 345# 15x2 on 90 secs ints

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Re: Brooks' Bunny and Fern Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:24 am

26 FEB: DL from #5 pin 345# 15x2 on 90 sec ints
followed by BP 217.5# 15x2 on 90 sec ints

music: Starland Vocal Band (the same song over and over)
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Re: Brooks Kubik's Bunny and Fern Gym

Post by The Real Rant » Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:46 am

What's you're take on YRG? Is it helpful? How long does a YRG session take?

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Re: Brooks Kubik's Bunny and Fern Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:28 pm

Rant wrote:What's you're take on YRG? Is it helpful? How long does a YRG session take?
I like it though I'm still new at it. A "20 minute" session on the DVD actually takes a little over 25'. I haven't looked at the longer fatburner/fatburner plus workouts yet, but should be capable of doing them in a month or so. When I"m finished I don't feel drained and actually feel a little "energized" (but not in a New Age way).
The main problem so far is that I can't bend over and grab my ankles (no pirate or prison secret issues with me) because of the sciatica on my left. So the forward bends and a couple of other positions aren't possible for me. That being said, doing a few of the moves during the day, if I'm having significant pain (as I was over the weekend after driving 6 hours each way), seems to help alleviate the discomfort quite well.
I intend to continue with YRG and overall am very positive about it.
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Re: Brooks Kubik's Bunny and Fern Gym

Post by DikTracy6000 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:07 am

Have you tried accupuncture for pain relief? I am roughly same size and wt. as you +2", and during my late 20's to early 30's docs said I had a bulging disc, not herniated. I took several accupuncture treatments to alleviate the pain especially the sciatica and it helped quite a lot. Finding a reputable accupuncturist is another matter.

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Re: Brooks Kubik's Bunny and Fern Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:11 pm

DiK Tracy wrote:Have you tried accupuncture for pain relief?
If I'm continuing to have some pain in my ass/thigh over the next 2-3 months, I might consider something like acupuncture. As a "Western" physician, though, I've got an inherent bias against much of the Eastern stuff. When you read about meridians, organs that can't be found with western science, and death touches dependent on time of day, it tends to increase disbelief.
That being said, there seems to be some science that indicates that acupuncture may actually work for chronic pain issues (so I'm open to considering it). Likewise, after looking at yoga (and YRG, which is a little different in that it incorporates sustained isometrics/isokinetics without the New Age/mental aspects), I feel that it definitely has some usefulness for people with back issues.
A big question, though, much like with the placebo effect, is how much relief would I have had by now if I'd done nothing? It's natual to attribute much of my improvement in the back pain/sciatica to yoga/stretching, but would I be just as far along with simple passage of time?
Much of my problem was compounded by stupidity. In retrospect I blew the disc out in late October, but it felt (and still feels) similar to a bad glute tear. Being a man, I decided to continue lifting without changing anything. I didn't actually quit the power cleans/high pulls/snatches/OHS for another 5 weeks, when I simply couldn't take the pain any more. Moreover, because it hurt so much, my form suffered, so I then damaged one of my lumbar facets and tore some of the paraspinous muscles in early December.
It was only then that I decided to by a rack so I could continue doing jerks (I was cleaning each one previously). In the last month I've started trying the partial lifts to at least justify having bought the rack. So far, I'm pleased with the way things are going.
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Re: Brooks Kubik's Bunny and Fern Gym

Post by LG Elf Ftr/Wizard 7/17 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:13 pm

27 FEB: 20' YRG workout

music: Gregorian chants
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