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The Magnificent 7

Post by DrDonkeyLove » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:54 am

On par with Unforgiven and High Plains Drifter.

That's the highest praise I can give a western.
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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by buckethead » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:36 pm

Fuck me. That's a serious good review

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Post by DikTracy6000 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:11 am

DrDonkeyLove wrote:On par with Unforgiven and High Plains Drifter.

That's the highest praise I can give a western.
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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by Blaidd Drwg » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:02 pm

Meh.

I'd rate it on par with the True Grit remake...compelling and entertaining but pretty far off of Unforgiven or the original for my tastes. Found nothing wrong with them departing from the canon a bunch in fact., I even liked some of the biggest departures from the original and the token Indians were both good. IMO not enough character development to give a fuck about anyone in particular...esp the towns people who were just a fleshy backdrop unlike both the 7 Samurai and Mag 7 which focused a lot of the townsfolk.

Highlights.

Denzel looks good on a horse. Little bit of the Bryner excessively fanciness and snobbery but overall really solid portrayal of the main gun.
Pratt is cool...he's not a good actor, not a super physical guy, but he';s just cool and he's got comedic timing.
D'Onofrio-Excellent. Best part of the movie by far for me.
Hawke- also solid, only person who managed to do any character dev. besides Vincent D.
Gatling gun are pretty.
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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by Cave Canem » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:15 pm

So is it worth $15 to see it on a the big screen or am I better served waiting for it to hit HBO?
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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by Shapecharge » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:41 pm

Cave Canem wrote:So is it worth $15 to see it on a the big screen or am I better served waiting for it to hit HBO?
Cave wait for it to come out on nextflix and we can watch it together and chill.

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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by DrDonkeyLove » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:07 pm

Cave Canem wrote:So is it worth $15 to see it on a the big screen or am I better served waiting for it to hit HBO?
There's a lot of shots of big beautiful western panoramas but it doesn't require the big screen to enjoy.
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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by The Ginger Beard Man » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:20 pm

DrDonkeyLove wrote:
Cave Canem wrote:So is it worth $15 to see it on a the big screen or am I better served waiting for it to hit HBO?
There's a lot of shots of big beautiful western panoramas but it doesn't require the big screen to enjoy.
I want to see the redheads cleavage on the big screen.
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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by Cave Canem » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:17 pm

Shapecharge wrote:
Cave Canem wrote:So is it worth $15 to see it on a the big screen or am I better served waiting for it to hit HBO?
Cave wait for it to come out on nextflix and we can watch it together and chill.
Sounds good considering I never got a camping invitation when I joined this mess 6 years ago.
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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by j-cubed » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:03 am

I liked it, but as mentioned Seven Samurai and The original Magnificent 7 do better town development of the towns people.

I liked Pratt's character. I didn't like how Denzel's character carried his gun. Seemed impractical to me. D'onofrio was great, making me forget who it was.

I thought they made too much use of the gatling gun, or that it did more destruction than it really would have.

On battle carnage and people getting shot, it's right up there with Josey Wales.

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Post by DikTracy6000 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:58 am

j-cubed wrote:I liked it, but as mentioned Seven Samurai and The original Magnificent 7 do better town development of the towns people.

I liked Pratt's character. I didn't like how Denzel's character carried his gun. Seemed impractical to me. D'onofrio was great, making me forget who it was.

On battle carnage and people getting shot, it's right up there with Josey Wales.
I would not be surprised if D'onofrio actually went out and lived with a real trapper for six weeks to get into his character.

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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by Boris » Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:08 pm

I'd give the movie a 'B'. (edit - I like Westerns. If I didn't, I'd grade it lower)

A lot of iconic scenes from the originals (Kurosawa and western) were not there and a lot of the characters and their relationships were underdeveloped. I get it - torn between just redoing the same movie, and creating something new, but it just didn't work imho.

The villian was not compelling at all - hard to compare with Elli Wallach, of course.

A Korean hero - fine, I guess, but they just should've gone full ninja or samurai (or whatever they were going for) there.

D'onofrio, Denzel, and Pratt did well with what they were given, but like I said, they were underdeveloped.

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Post by powerlifter54 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:06 pm

DikTracy6000 wrote:
j-cubed wrote:I liked it, but as mentioned Seven Samurai and The original Magnificent 7 do better town development of the towns people.

I liked Pratt's character. I didn't like how Denzel's character carried his gun. Seemed impractical to me. D'onofrio was great, making me forget who it was.

On battle carnage and people getting shot, it's right up there with Josey Wales.
I would not be surprised if D'onofrio actually went out and lived with a real trapper for six weeks to get into his character.
Visually impressive movie. Not quite Unforgiven level but just a notch below. Redhead leading townspeople through town notable scene. Private Pyle appearance nice surprise and great character. Denzel as usual outstanding but the handle forward gun position made me scratch my head.

Worth my matinee ticket.
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Post by Schlegel » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:30 am

powerlifter54 wrote:
DikTracy6000 wrote:
j-cubed wrote:I liked it, but as mentioned Seven Samurai and The original Magnificent 7 do better town development of the towns people.

I liked Pratt's character. I didn't like how Denzel's character carried his gun. Seemed impractical to me. D'onofrio was great, making me forget who it was.

On battle carnage and people getting shot, it's right up there with Josey Wales.
I would not be surprised if D'onofrio actually went out and lived with a real trapper for six weeks to get into his character.
Visually impressive movie. Not quite Unforgiven level but just a notch below. Redhead leading townspeople through town notable scene. Private Pyle appearance nice surprise and great character. Denzel as usual outstanding but the handle forward gun position made me scratch my head.

Worth my matinee ticket.
The handle forward style is a real thing from the era. You draw differently, the arm rising and points forward even before you rotate the forearm upright. Supposedly real fast once you are practiced and stops you from over-rising. Never tried it myself. The point is supposed to be getting the gun pointing forward faster than anybody else, as I understand it. Don't know if it works, but it's really a period thing.
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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by milosz » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:33 pm

Meh, had no heart, which led to no drama and then a coup de grace of the magical near-infinite Gatling gun that can spray every point in a quarter-mile square three dimensional town.

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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by Cave Canem » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:13 am

milosz wrote:...........then a coup de grace of the magical near-infinite Gatling gun that can spray every point in a quarter-mile square three dimensional town.
Sounds almost like the ending to "The Wild Bunch"
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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by Shapecharge » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:23 pm

Schlegel wrote:
powerlifter54 wrote:
DikTracy6000 wrote:
j-cubed wrote:I liked it, but as mentioned Seven Samurai and The original Magnificent 7 do better town development of the towns people.

I liked Pratt's character. I didn't like how Denzel's character carried his gun. Seemed impractical to me. D'onofrio was great, making me forget who it was.

On battle carnage and people getting shot, it's right up there with Josey Wales.
I would not be surprised if D'onofrio actually went out and lived with a real trapper for six weeks to get into his character.
Visually impressive movie. Not quite Unforgiven level but just a notch below. Redhead leading townspeople through town notable scene. Private Pyle appearance nice surprise and great character. Denzel as usual outstanding but the handle forward gun position made me scratch my head.

Worth my matinee ticket.
The handle forward style is a real thing from the era. You draw differently, the arm rising and points forward even before you rotate the forearm upright. Supposedly real fast once you are practiced and stops you from over-rising. Never tried it myself. The point is supposed to be getting the gun pointing forward faster than anybody else, as I understand it. Don't know if it works, but it's really a period thing.
The cross-draw was popular with the gamblers because it was easier to draw while seated. Same while riding a horse.

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Post by tonkadtx » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:27 pm

On par with Unforgiven and High Plains Drifter.

That's the highest praise I can give a western.
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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by j-cubed » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:34 am

Shapecharge wrote:
Schlegel wrote:
powerlifter54 wrote:
DikTracy6000 wrote:
j-cubed wrote:I liked it, but as mentioned Seven Samurai and The original Magnificent 7 do better town development of the towns people.

I liked Pratt's character. I didn't like how Denzel's character carried his gun. Seemed impractical to me. D'onofrio was great, making me forget who it was.

On battle carnage and people getting shot, it's right up there with Josey Wales.
I would not be surprised if D'onofrio actually went out and lived with a real trapper for six weeks to get into his character.
Visually impressive movie. Not quite Unforgiven level but just a notch below. Redhead leading townspeople through town notable scene. Private Pyle appearance nice surprise and great character. Denzel as usual outstanding but the handle forward gun position made me scratch my head.

Worth my matinee ticket.
The handle forward style is a real thing from the era. You draw differently, the arm rising and points forward even before you rotate the forearm upright. Supposedly real fast once you are practiced and stops you from over-rising. Never tried it myself. The point is supposed to be getting the gun pointing forward faster than anybody else, as I understand it. Don't know if it works, but it's really a period thing.
The cross-draw was popular with the gamblers because it was easier to draw while seated. Same while riding a horse.
Except it wasn't a cross draw, not like in the picture below. It was butt forward, but normal hip position.

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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by SubClaw » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:51 am

Visually excellent, but all that political correctness made me sick. I mean, come on... black, asian, indian, hispanic, even a woman. They forgot to add a middle eastern character and a gay/transgender hero.

I have no problem with any ethnic population, but this is ridiculous. I mean, since when Heimdall was black? What will be next? Some pale norwegian playing Shaka Zulu role? (noooooo, that would be racist).

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Post by TomFurman » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:31 pm

I thought a lot of cowboys were black? Any historians on here?
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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by JohnDoe » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:30 am

I've read as many as 1 in 4 was black.

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Post by Cave Canem » Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:20 am

Saw it. Meh. I can't understand putting this up with Unforgiven or other Eastwood westerns. I tried to keep an open mind but comparisons to the original were inescapable and this movie came up woefully short. It was completely destroyed for me when that Bogue character uttered the Eli Wallach line, "If God didn't want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep".

In the opening when the they were bringing out the strongbox for the payroll with "Bogue" written on the side, I misread it as Rogue and wondered why they were bringing in gym equipment.
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Re: The Magnificent 7

Post by syaigh » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:06 am

11 and 13 year old boys loved it. Pratt was just playing the same character he always plays, but Vasquez, Horne, and Robicheax were compelling characters, the latter two much more so. Im old and losing my hearing so I watch movies with th subtites on. The subtle dialogue makes it a much better movie.
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