We are just finding out what Russia has always known

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We are just finding out what Russia has always known

Post by nafod » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:38 am

Every time someone in Trump’s circle, including Trump himself, lied about dealings with Russia that of course Russia already knew about, it gave Putin leverage over our President.

Wonder how he is using it.
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Post by Grandpa's Spells » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:59 pm

Was also in Steele dossier and denied, including in front of Congress. Weird to lie about all this perfectly legal business.
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Post by Fat Cat » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:33 pm

The claim is that it was all about election messaging. The truth will out.
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Post by Gene » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:24 pm

nafod wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:38 am
Every time someone in Trump’s circle, including Trump himself, lied about dealings with Russia that of course Russia already knew about, it gave Putin leverage over our President.

Wonder how he is using it.
Apparently not too well. Takes a pretty agile mind to navigate through all of the hostile shit that we inflict on Russia and China, to call such nonsense "Putin buying Trump".

Abrogating the INF treaty is freaking the Russians out. http://www.pravdareport.com/opinion/col ... f_issue-0/


Poroshenko just called off elections in Ukraine, elections he was likely to lose, because of a "state of war". A state of war that he himself precipitated in the Sea of Azov. The little flap between the Ukrainian military and Russian FSB coast guard does not benefit Russia in the least. The front runner in Ukrainian polls to succeed Poroshenko was Julia Tymoshenko, who now has to wait like a good girl until Papa Petro lifts the State of Emergency.

Here is the wiki article on this incident. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerch_Strait_incident

There was an article in the US about Kiev needing to blow up the bridge. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... mea-bridge

A little caution about that bridge is called for.... we will need to wait for inquiries on both sides.



The Pentagon gave the Ukrainian military $200,000,000 in weapons, including Javelin anti-tank missiles. The US Navy is still hard at work at that naval post at Ogachiv in Southern Ukraine.

The US has slipped two years on schedule to build an SM-3 ABM installation in Poland. The Russians are already complaining about the Romanian based US SM-3 interceptor that paints the skies over Russia with radar. This ABM system was meant to "protect" Europe from Iran. The EU was happy to keep up the Iran nuke treaty, but Trump trashed it. How does that benefit Putin?


In response to all of this Russia is assessing facilities in Cuba. I wonder how long it'll be before someone blames Trump for "allowing Russia into our backyard".

https://www.newsweek.com/cold-war-russi ... us-1195433
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Post by Gene » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:26 pm

Occam's Razor suggests that Hillary lost because she was a weak campaigner, she abused leftists like Bernie Sanders and that some of us remember eight years of misery when she and her husband ran the country the last damn time. Putin's influence in the 2016 election was minimal.

Russia apparently did not influence the 2018 elections to judge from House votes.

This confection of Putin bought Trump appeals to people nostalgic for the Cold War and to Neo-Cons. The main beneficiaries of it are the Military Industrial Complex. As Smedley Butler put it, "War is a racket".
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