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Re: Trumpling the Truth

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Fucking Trump.
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That's a real thing. *sigh* Enough already.

Between Fox ranting at Hillary (isn't she dead yet?) and the rest ranting at Trump, I bet you Oregon (for example) could secede from the union and no one would notice.
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Post by Turdacious » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:34 am

10-1 this article won't be included in his Monday morning reading material.
President Donald Trump has in recent days received a wave of new, underwhelming polling numbers — many of which have come from unexpected places.

Take, for example, a Suffolk University poll from earlier this week. It found that Trump's favorability rating among people who said Fox News was their most trusted news source was 58% — a substantial drop from the outlet's surveys in June (90%) and October (74%).

Meanwhile, in Alabama — where in Tuesday's special election the Democrat Doug Jones defeated his embattled Republican challenger, Roy Moore — exit polls found that voters had a split opinion of the president.

In a state Trump carried by nearly 30 points over the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, in the 2016 presidential election, just 48% of voters say they approve of Trump, and 48% say they disapprove of the job he's doing.

And in Iowa, where Trump defeated Clinton by roughly 9 points, a Wednesday poll from the Des Moines Register/Mediacom found that 60% of Iowans disapproved of the job Trump is doing. Just 35% say they approve, a sharp drop from his 43% approval in the poll's July edition.
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Post by syaigh » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:50 pm

And he screwed over more of his base.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/20 ... eyre-suing
An organization representing the interests of small farmers across rural America fired a legal salvo Thursday aimed at a Trump administration they feel has let them down.

The lawsuit, filed by the Organization for Competitive Markets — a small-farmers think tank based in Lincoln, Neb. — and three farmer plaintiffs, did not shake the halls of Congress. Nor will it go viral on social media. But to the 40,000 contract poultry farmers, 900,000 cattle ranchers, and 70,000 hog farmers in America's heartland whose interests it seeks to represent, the lawsuit represents the tip of an iceberg of financial and emotional despair.

At issue is the Trump administration's withdrawal of two Obama-era rules designed to protect small farmers, who say they are being exploited by the meatpacking companies they supply.

The suit, filed on behalf of OCM by the Capitol Hill legal watchdog Democracy Forward, charges U.S. Department of Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue and his agency with "arbitrary and capricious" behavior in rolling back those two rules. One of them would have made it easier for individual farmers to sue for anti-competitive behavior.

Many of the farmers affected by the rollback supported Donald Trump for president, believing his promise to look after their interests. Now, the disillusionment is setting in.

West Virginia poultry farmer Mike Weaver is one of them; he says the feeling now among small farmers and ranchers is, "Where's the support that you promised us? We voted for you because you were going to make things right, and it's not happening."

Thursday's lawsuit is an attempt to put legal muscle behind the frustrations of farmers and ranchers over a highly consolidated meatpacking system.

"Four packers control 82 percent of the market," explains Joe Maxwell, executive director of OCM, "and they've carved the country into regions and don't compete with each other. Farmers feel threatened by packers because in their area, there's only one choice."

Weaver says contract poultry farmers like himself are wooed by slick sales pitches from meatpackers, then "have to put their home in hock" to raise the $1.5 million to $2 million it takes to start a poultry operation. "Then you have to take what the companies give you," he adds, "or take your chances on losing the farm. Companies abuse that, shamefully."

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The rolled-back rules are known as GIPSA — short for the Grain Inspection, Packers and Stockyard Administration, the arm of the USDA tasked with promoting fair and competitive practices in the industry. Large meatpackers, represented by agribusiness lobby members such as the National Chicken Council, the National Pork Producers Council and the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, counter that adopting the rules would have lowered the bar for farmers to sue meatpackers for anti-competitive behavior and invited frivolous and costly litigation, resulting in higher prices for consumers.

Tom Super, spokesman for the National Chicken Council, says the rules would have "opened the floodgates for trial lawyers to sue companies" and added well over $1 billion in costs for the livestock and poultry industry.

Another rule the USDA withdrew would have helped define which actions are considered unfair, discriminatory or deceptive. Left intact was a third rule, clarifying the rules governing the "tournament system" of poultry producing — which pits producers against each other in a contest of who can produce the biggest chickens with the least amount of feed.

The 1921 Packers and Stockyards Act was originally drafted to offer small farmers protection from the predatory, retaliatory and nontransparent practices of large packers, says Barbara Patterson of the Washington, D.C.-based National Farmers Union. "Over time, though," she says, "the courts have slowly eroded that original intent."

The USDA, in response to a request for comment, issued a statement pointing out that it had based its decision in part on public comments, many of which had noted that "the purpose of the [Packers and Stockyards] Act is to protect competition, not individual competitors." The statement also said the agency's action was "consistent with President's Trump's Executive Order to reduce regulations and control regulatory costs." USDA says it remains committed to protecting "fair trade practices" and competitive markets.

The case of Tennessee poultry farmer Alton Terry illustrates the type of abuses that small contract poultry farmers allege. Terry bought his poultry farm in 2001 and entered into a contract with Tyson Foods. Farmers are provided chicks, feed and Tyson's technical expertise, and their pay is tied to the weight of the finished poultry. Critics say the system is unfair, because it lacks transparency and leaves farmers' pay subject to factors they largely can't control — like the quality of chickens they receive.

After becoming active with a statewide farmers' advocacy group, Terry alleged in a lawsuit against Tyson Farms that the meatpacker would not let him watch his birds being weighed. Farmers have charged that packers retaliate against perceived "troublemakers" by sending them poor feed or unhealthy chicks and weighing poultry behind closed doors — which they say leaves them vulnerable to being cheated on price.

Terry filed a complaint with GIPSA in 2005; the following year, Tyson declined to renew his contract. He was eventually forced to declare bankruptcy. In 2010 the U.S. Court of Appeals in Cincinnati sided with Tyson Farms, stating that the law required Terry prove that harm was done not just to him but also to the entire industry.

At about the same time that trial was underway, the newly installed Obama administration launched an exhaustive eight-year negotiation process to strengthen protections for small farmers. Faced with fierce resistance from Big Meat and its congressional allies, the USDA's efforts at reform took a beating, in the end producing the three rules set to be implemented a month after Obama left office.

But that never happened. On Inauguration Day, the Trump White House issued a memorandum postponing the effective date of the rules by 60 days. Several more delays followed. Then in October, the USDA announced the complete withdrawal of two of those rules. The following month, Perdue announced that GIPSA's functions would be folded into the USDA's Agricultural Marketing Services arm.

This move "basically gives GIPSA a demotion," explains Sally Lee, associate director of the Rural Advancement Foundation International, which offers family farms expertise in long-term contract farming.

"Making it a subagency of AMS potentially has inherent conflicts of interests," says Lee. The AMS — the very agency that helps large packers negotiate with brokers, fast-food or grocery chains — would be tasked with policing those packers in their dealings with small contract farmers. Weaver calls the move tantamount to "having the fox guard the henhouse."

One of the challenges in mounting the new suit, says OCM's Maxwell, has been the difficulty of finding farmer plaintiffs — most are too afraid of retaliation to speak up.

"When you just have one buyer, you can't go out and start talking about why the market is wrong when that buyer can walk away and bankrupt you," Maxwell says. "It's put a gag order on America's family farmer and threatened their livelihood."

Patterson of the National Farmers' Union agrees. "The fear in the countryside on this is palpable," she says.

Poultry farmer Weaver, who also serves as president of the Contract Poultry Growers of the Virginias, says he is one of "the lucky few" who can speak freely. He came to poultry growing after a career as a special agent for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and is not dependent on his farm income to survive.

Few of his fellow small contract poultry farmers — 71 percent of whom, he points, out, "live beneath the federal poverty level" — enjoy that luxury. "I've had guys in tears on the phone, telling me, 'My farm has been in the family for five generations, and I'm about to lose it,' " Weaver says.

Weaver, who will turn 66 in January, says he has told Pilgrim's Pride, the company he is under contract with, that "I'm not going to pick up their dead chickens 'til I die." He is now trying to sell his farm.
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Post by Turdacious » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:24 pm

To be fair, small farmers weren't particularly happy with the devil they knew.
The House Subcommittee on the Environment held a hearing yesterday on what its chairman called "one of the biggest federal overreaches in modern history." The Waters of the United States rule, passed by administrative fiat in June 2015, gave the federal government jurisdiction over nearly every river, lake, creek, estuary, pond, swamp, prairie pothole, irrigation ditch, and intermittent rivulet in the U.S.In February, President Donald Trump issued an executive order instructing the EPA to "consider interpreting the term 'navigable waters'...in a manner consistent with the opinion of Justice Antonin Scalia in Rapanos v. United States." Scalia's opinion noted that before the Clean Water Act passed, the courts had "interpreted the phrase 'navigable waters of the United States' in the Act's predecessor statutes to refer to interstate waters that are 'navigable in fact' or readily susceptible of being rendered so." He then argued that "on its only plausible interpretation, the phrase 'the waters of the United States' includes only those relatively permanent, standing or continuously flowing bodies of water 'forming geographic features' that are described in ordinary parlance as 'streams[,]...oceans, rivers, [and] lakes.'" [...]

Just how far the feds reached under prior administrations was illustrated in testimony by James Childton Jr.—the Arizona rancher who wanted to grade that road. His environmental consultant warned him that this might require an Army Corps of Engineers permit, and eventually he abandoned the project due to mounting legal and other fees. "The $40,000 I had spent was entirely the result of the vague and expansive requirements of EPA and the Corps of Engineers; not a penny went to a constructive or productive agricultural need," Chilton testified. "It was all for a permit writing expert, consultants, an environmental assessment and engineering report, a survey, and attorney fees." The dry wash on Chilton's property is located 270 miles away from the Colorado River, the nearest navigable body of water. After the Rapanos decision came out, Chilton decided to risk building a culvert over another dry wash without seeking a permit. Now he's worried about possible criminal liability if the Obama-era rule stands.
http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/30/are-d ... -waters-of
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Across the city, these are halcyon days for real estate developers. The largest commercial landlord in Manhattan, SL Green Realty, is building a skyscraper next to Grand Central Terminal, and in September it teamed up with RXR Realty to acquire a nearly 50% stake in Midtown skyscraper Worldwide Plaza for $1.7 billion. The city’s largest developer by market capitalization, Vornado Realty Trust, is transforming the Farley post office building into a waiting room for Penn Station, while its office towers command record rents.

Yet the city’s best-known landlord is missing out. Not only are the Trump Organization’s plans to develop a hotel here going nowhere, but prices are slumping for condos at Trump Tower and the Trump International Hotel and Tower.

And golfers are shunning the Trump Golf Links at Ferry Point in the Bronx, where revenue through mid-September had fallen by more than $1.1 million in the past two years, to $5.7 million, amid a 16% drop in rounds played.

In addition, the Trump Organization, a perennial leader on the Crain’s list of largest privately held companies, has fallen steeply in the rankings, to No. 40 from No. 3 last year, following the president’s disclosures to federal regulators that revealed the organization’s revenue is less than a 10th of what the firm had reported since at least 2010.
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20 ... tunes-fall

The Trump Organization overreported revenue to the feds? That's the opposite of what people and corporations normally do.
Democrats in Congress sent a letter Wednesday to White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner, inquiring into concerns about a potential conflict of interest regarding Manhattan real estate that his company purchased — and that is reportedly in dire need of financing. The letter, first reported by Bloomberg News, was sent by 13 Democratic lawmakers and expresses concern about reports that 666 Fifth Avenue is in need of “massive cash bailouts” from foreign nationals. Multiple outlets have reported on the risky purchase, made at the height of the real-estate bubble, and which has reportedly left Kushner Cos with more than half of the $1.2 billion debt owed.

The letter notes that Kushner visited Saudi Arabia with little fanfare last month and notes that it was unusually taken without press releases or readouts about what was discussed. The letter asks, “Since November 8, 2016, did you have any discussions with any foreign nationals or entities in Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, China, Israel, France or any other foreign country (excluding Russia) about 666 Fifth Avenue?”
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Post by JimZipCode » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:42 pm

syaigh wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:50 pm
And he screwed over more of his base.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/20 ... eyre-suing
The suit, filed on behalf of OCM by the Capitol Hill legal watchdog Democracy Forward, charges U.S. Department of Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue and his agency with "arbitrary and capricious" behavior in rolling back those two rules. One of them would have made it easier for individual farmers to sue for anti-competitive behavior.
Wait a minute. Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue rolled back rules protecting small chicken farmers??

It takes a tough man to screw a tender chicken farmer.
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Public stupidity never ceases to amuse. Just yesterday the conversation turned - again - to the tired topic of Bad Trump. That time someone recalled Donnie grabbing some pussy (apparently literally) and boasting about it. My counter - what about Obama's misdoings - was met with the black stare. I explained: what about Obama letting the bankers who, because of their gambling with other people's money (as well as imaginary money and no money at all) get away with collapsing the American and World economy, in reality rewarding them with a hefty boys of $200 plus billion? Blank stare and some stupid blabbering.

It's all about image versus action I guess. Trump is a big mouth and is loathed by the public for anything he does. Obama - smooth talker and gets away with the most outrageous shit.

Ny theory is that the root of Trump hatred lies in the betaisation of men. You know, alpha male, beta male. Alpha is out of vogue. "Real" men should cry and be gentle. To be more like women. You know, masculinity is toxic. Obama is a typical Beta and was loved, never mind the shit he did. Trump is an alpha dog and is automatically bad. I am still waiting to hear what bad things Trumpo actually has done.
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Sangoma wrote:
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what about Obama letting the bankers who, because of their gambling with other people's money (as well as imaginary money and no money at all) get away with collapsing the American and World economy, in reality rewarding them with a hefty boys of $200 plus billion? Blank stare and some stupid blabbering.
Yes. The financial crisis was Obama's fault.
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Did I say it was his fault?
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Sangoma wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:31 pm
Public stupidity never ceases to amuse. Just yesterday the conversation turned - again - to the tired topic of Bad Trump. That time someone recalled Donnie grabbing some pussy (apparently literally) and boasting about it. My counter - what about Obama's misdoings - was met with the black stare. I explained: what about Obama letting the bankers who, because of their gambling with other people's money (as well as imaginary money and no money at all) get away with collapsing the American and World economy, in reality rewarding them with a hefty boys of $200 plus billion? Blank stare and some stupid blabbering.

It's all about image versus action I guess. Trump is a big mouth and is loathed by the public for anything he does. Obama - smooth talker and gets away with the most outrageous shit.

Ny theory is that the root of Trump hatred lies in the betaisation of men. You know, alpha male, beta male. Alpha is out of vogue. "Real" men should cry and be gentle. To be more like women. You know, masculinity is toxic. Obama is a typical Beta and was loved, never mind the shit he did. Trump is an alpha dog and is automatically bad. I am still waiting to hear what bad things Trumpo actually has done - other than admitting to sexual assault that is.
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Admitting? Are you talking about the Big Mouth boasting about trying to score with some chick? Another piece of the puzzle that makes Trump unbearable to the gentle public.
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Ny theory is that the root of Trump hatred lies in the betaisation of men. You know, alpha male, beta male. Alpha is out of vogue. "Real" men should cry and be gentle. To be more like women. You know, masculinity is toxic. Obama is a typical Beta and was loved, never mind the shit he did. Trump is an alpha dog and is automatically bad. I am still waiting to hear what bad things Trumpo actually has done.
My theory is he is hated by a lot of people for being a bullshit artist known for the big con. He had to pay back $25 million for Trump University. He took his casino public, paid himself a yuuggee salary as CEO while bankrupting it and screwing over the stockholders. He had to launder Russian mob money to keep his real estate op afloat. Used his "charity" to pay legal bills and buy paintings of himself. Alpha males don't dodge the draft. Etc.

See, I didn't even have to mention him bragging about owning a pageant so he could walk in on half naked .Miss Teen contestants. He lived Roy Moore's wet dream.

There are plenty of Alpha males that aren't also douchebag fuck up con men.
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Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:13 am
Admitting? Are you talking about the Big Mouth boasting about trying to score with some chick? Another piece of the puzzle that makes Trump unbearable to the gentle public.
They conveniently forget that half of the conversation was him complaining that he'd spent a wad of cash trying to get in a girl's pants and she still turned him down.
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nafod wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:50 am
Sangoma wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:31 pm
Ny theory is that the root of Trump hatred lies in the betaisation of men. You know, alpha male, beta male. Alpha is out of vogue. "Real" men should cry and be gentle. To be more like women. You know, masculinity is toxic. Obama is a typical Beta and was loved, never mind the shit he did. Trump is an alpha dog and is automatically bad. I am still waiting to hear what bad things Trumpo actually has done.
My theory is he is hated by a lot of people for being a bullshit artist known for the big con. He had to pay back $25 million for Trump University. He took his casino public, paid himself a yuuggee salary as CEO while bankrupting it and screwing over the stockholders. He had to launder Russian mob money to keep his real estate op afloat. Used his "charity" to pay legal bills and buy paintings of himself. Alpha males don't dodge the draft. Etc.

See, I didn't even have to mention him bragging about owning a pageant so he could walk in on half naked .Miss Teen contestants. He lived Roy Moore's wet dream.

There are plenty of Alpha males that aren't also douchebag fuck up con men.
for me, one of his greatest sins is that he failed to pay contractors working on his casinos the agreed-upon fees. a rich guy who stiffs the people he hires is the definition of despicable. in hell, he will be a glob of bubbling fat.

and the tax bill is corruption masquerading as . . . as i don't know what. it's legislation that will put millions of dollars in trump's pocket and in the pockets of many republican senators and representative. we are now a banana republic of self-dealing banditos.

and they punctuate their success with prayers. jesus weeps. mary weeps. joseph weeps. god the father stays in bed all day, hiding under the blankets.
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You would think that with President Donald Trump's approval ratings at historic lows for a first-year president, the candidate he beat in the 2016 election might see a similar improvement in their popularity numbers -- a sort-of buyer's remorse bump.
That has not been the case with Hillary Clinton. In fact, the opposite has been true.
Hillary Clinton's approval dipped to 36% in a December Gallup poll, the lowest mark ever measured for the former senator and first lady in the survey. Her unfavorable ratings -- at 61% -- also marked a new high (or low) for Clinton.
"When I have a job, I have really high approval ratings," she told Vox's Ezra Klein in a July 2016 interview. "When I'm actually doing the work, I get reelected with 67 percent of the vote running for re-election in the Senate. When I'm secretary of state, I have [a] 66 percent approval rating. And then I seek a job, I run for a job, and all of the discredited negativity comes out again, and all of these arguments and attacks start up."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/20/politics/ ... index.html
Interesting that Trump haters don't acknowledge that The Donald is using the Clinton playbook.
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nafod wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:50 am
Sangoma wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:31 pm
Ny theory is that the root of Trump hatred lies in the betaisation of men. You know, alpha male, beta male. Alpha is out of vogue. "Real" men should cry and be gentle. To be more like women. You know, masculinity is toxic. Obama is a typical Beta and was loved, never mind the shit he did. Trump is an alpha dog and is automatically bad. I am still waiting to hear what bad things Trumpo actually has done.
My theory is he is hated by a lot of people for being a bullshit artist known for the big con. He had to pay back $25 million for Trump University. He took his casino public, paid himself a yuuggee salary as CEO while bankrupting it and screwing over the stockholders. He had to launder Russian mob money to keep his real estate op afloat. Used his "charity" to pay legal bills and buy paintings of himself. Alpha males don't dodge the draft. Etc.

See, I didn't even have to mention him bragging about owning a pageant so he could walk in on half naked .Miss Teen contestants. He lived Roy Moore's wet dream.

There are plenty of Alpha males that aren't also douchebag fuck up con men.
There are always stories, and while there are always two sides of the story, with the media being in the hands of those on the opposite side of Trump we are only going to hear the bad one. There is plenty of dirt on every public figure, including every past President. I guess not paying contractors is worse than starting a war and killing a few hundred thousand innocent people. Or, as in the earlier example, letting the bankers walk with millions in bonuses after they engineered the crisis that displace around 10 million Americans. Just couple of examples. Did anybody pay attention when it became public that Bush the First was affiliated with the CIA since the 1950s and may play a role in the assassination of JFK? Notwithstanding the fact that his family fortunes were made by financing Hitler's war effort. Did that spark conversations lasting months?

Just to reiterate, I don't hold any politician in high regard; in order to get to where they are they have to sell their soul more than once. Glorified clerks with huge benefits. I am just amused how the media managed to manipulate the minds of people, including the people I know to be educated and intelligent.

There are plenty of alpha males who are not douchebags, but there are more of them who are labelled douchebags in the public eye. It will become more obvious to you couple of decades from now, it's all about "toxic masculinity".
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Turdacious wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:42 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/20/politics/ ... index.html
Interesting that Trump haters don't acknowledge that The Donald is using the Clinton playbook.
Not sure what you mean about "the Clinton playbook"? But it's interesting that Trump-lovers are so eager to drag Hillary back into the spotlight every chance they get.
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...there are always two sides of the story...
Right. For example, there was violence on both sides at the Charlottesville rally.
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with the media being in the hands of those on the opposite side of Trump
.??

You should try watching Fox News one time. It is the most popular news channel, and sucks Trump's dick as a matter of course.

The guy who owns the National Enquirer paid off one of Trump's dalliances that he was banging while Melania was pregnant, an exclusive story they never ran.
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Media bias just as threatening as Trump
Study: 91 percent of recent network Trump coverage has been negative
Media bias continues: 90% of Trump coverage in last three months has been negative, study says

The majority of Americans approved him, yet the majority of reporting is negative. Is it not the indication that the press is in the hand of the minority? A definite indication that the press is not in his control.

Apparently even Hitler didn't get much negativity by the American press in the 1930s:

How media ‘fluff’ helped Hitler rise to power
On Aug. 20, 1939, the New York Times Magazine published an article describing the day-to-day life at Hitler’s mountain chalet.

This was 12 days before Germany invaded Poland and started World War II, nine months after the violent anti-Jewish pogroms of Kristallnacht, and six years after the first Nazi concentration camp opened at Dachau.

The article commented that Hitler’s estate on the Obersalzberg, a mountain retreat near the Austrian border, was “furnished harmoniously, according to the best of German traditions.” Unstained wainscoting and handwoven rugs combined to “create an atmosphere of quiet cheerfulness” in the Führer’s study, the New York Times reported.

Hitler had a tomato garden and a fondness for chocolate, the story said. He was a man “who can eat a gooseberry pie or a well-done pudding with relish.” He liked to take an afternoon nap.
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Post by dead man walking » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:20 am

Sangoma wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:04 pm
The majority of Americans approved him, yet the majority of reporting is negative.
no, the majority did not vote for him. his current approval ratings are in the mid-30s to low-40s, where they have been for six or so months. his ratings are a record low for this stage of a presidency.

multiple surveys are cited here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tr ... id=rrpromo.
also here: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
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Post by Turdacious » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:56 pm

JimZipCode wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:36 pm
Turdacious wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:42 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/20/politics/ ... index.html
Interesting that Trump haters don't acknowledge that The Donald is using the Clinton playbook.
Not sure what you mean about "the Clinton playbook"? But it's interesting that Trump-lovers are so eager to drag Hillary back into the spotlight every chance they get.
More referring to the smarmy 'Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos' attitude among liberals and Trump-haters.
The tactics that Trump is using against people accusing him of sexual and financial misconduct are very similar to the ones that the Bill and Hill used back when Bubba was POTUS. Like he'd palled around with with the parents of his daughter's best friend or something.
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Post by Turdacious » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:29 pm

In its first year, the Trump administration posted a turnover rate fit for a season of The Apprentice. National security adviser Michael Flynn didn’t last a month. Communications director Anthony Scaramucci barely put in a week before publicly deriding the White House’s chief strategist’s (alleged) affinity for auto-fellatio. That strategist, Steve Bannon, followed chief of staff Reince Priebus and press secretary Sean Spicer back to the private sector by summer’s end.

In total, 21 of the administration’s 61 senior officials were either allowed to resign, fired, or reassigned in 2017. That 34 percent first-year turnover rate is the highest in at least four decades — and double the previous record set by the Reagan administration — according to Kathryn Dunn-Tenpas of the Brookings Institution.

“Not only is the percentage double, the seniority of people leaving is extraordinarily high,” Dunn-Tenpas told the Wall Street Journal.
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Post by Yes I Have Balls » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:47 pm

Sangoma wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:04 pm
The majority of Americans approved him....
This is what is wrong with this country right here. 6 words of complete bullshit that is so easily checked an 8-year old could Google it.

220,000,000+Americans over the age of 18.
62,980,160 Americans voted for Donald Trump

62,980,160 / 220,000,000 = .2863

Less than 29% of voting eligible Americans "approved" of Donald Trump enough to vote for him.

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Post by DrDonkeyLove » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:43 pm

Yes I Have Balls wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:47 pm
Sangoma wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:04 pm
The majority of Americans approved him....
This is what is wrong with this country right here. 6 words of complete bullshit that is so easily checked an 8-year old could Google it.

220,000,000+Americans over the age of 18.
62,980,160 Americans voted for Donald Trump

62,980,160 / 220,000,000 = .2863

Less than 29% of voting eligible Americans "approved" of Donald Trump enough to vote for him.
How about the majority of actual voters outside of the Progressive urban coastal enclaves?
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