Stem Cells

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Anyone have any stem cell treatments? For people who have reported good outcomes, they seem like the second coming, but there is a wide range of results.

I’ve got a consultation a few weeks from today to see if they might be useful for my hip.

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Although no experience with stem cells, a guy I know had a horrific snowboard accident tearing a number of ligaments.

He used BPC-157 and said it worked great for him.  I know nothing of it beyond him, just sharing an anecdote.

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BPC-157 seems to be good at soft tissue healing, but I don’t think it has an effect on cartilage. The peptides subreddit seemed split from what I remember.

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I have assisted with quite a few for knees.  Can’t give an accurate percentage, but the vast majority have reported a good result.

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Thanks for the feedback.

I have a relatively minor tear of the labrum in my left hip. Outcomes aren’t all that great for the procedure my surgeon wanted to do.

Careful strengthening, soft tissue work and strengthening has kept me intact, but I know I’ll end up in real pain, and maybe needing a hip replacement, if I don’t get some sort of intervention going.

I have a consult with a surgeon who does PRP, intraosseous, hyaluranic acid, and stem cell injections. Hopefully he’ll think I’m a good candidate.

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Although it won’t heal your labrum, I found that doing abduction and adduction isolation exercises with leg day helped with hip pain.

I do this on either side of my leg, without any hip compensation (either side-to-side or in rotation), or rotating the foot away from neutral, for 2-4 sets a leg after finishing my compound quad exercises (squats and lunges):

Edit: well, I embedded it, and it shows up in my preview post, but it disappears when I publish it.  I really wish someone would make a “How to use this site” guide.  I guess google “band hip abduction” and look at the second image, but use better form.

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I follow the FAI Fix programming from Upright Health, and I have a hip band or whatever from Mark Bell.

That and careful deadlifts and mostly single leg squatting variations have kept things in check, but with how much moving around I’m doing, I’ve noticed a little more soreness lately.

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Any pain sucks, wishing you luck with your approaches

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Seems there’s all this anecdotal evidence of treatments being borderline miraculous, yet the establishment is still leery about it all?

 

 

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I don’t have anything relevant to add but I am curious…I assume you already know the cost?  Insurance won’t help correct?  From what I’ve seen, it is quite expensive.  Whichever way you go, best of luck.  I read just a month or so ago in the paper that the procedure is still not approved by the FDA.

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Ron wrote:

I don’t have anything relevant to add but I am curious…I assume you already know the cost? Insurance won’t help correct? From what I’ve seen, it is quite expensive. Whichever way you go, best of luck. I read just a month or so ago in the paper that the procedure is still not approved by the FDA.

Yeah, if I did the whole series of injections (PRP, stem, intraosseous, hyaluranic acid) it’s like $5k. Pretty steep to not know if it’ll work for sure, but surgery is like a year total to recover and outcomes are pretty varied, too.

I guess I’ll have a better idea once I actually talk to the doctor.

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Shit, I thought it was closer to $14K and that was traveling to Panama.

 

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They do all sorts of shit down there, like IVs and all that.

The place I’m going to only does injections and you can opt only for stem cells if he thinks it can help, PRP or whatever.

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Have you considered the peptide BPC157?  From what I’ve read, it has had some near miraculous results for soft tissue/connective tissue injury recovery.

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I think that’s the one that’s good for tendons and the like, but cartilage isn’t supposed to benefit from it. I’ll look into it more and see what’s out there. It’s been a couple years, and I remember Ben Greenfield was talking about it so I turned the other way.

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