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You can probably watch on the Peacock free app. The time difference doesn’t help, plus the sports NBC wants me to care about (women’s soccer, swimming, tennis and gymnastics) are not the sports I am interested in. Plus the kowtowing to the whole Taiwan doesn’t exist narrative is annoying.
I like the olympics. But the path to watching them is too much for me to handle. I don’t know why I just can’t log into an “olympic” channel and pick whatever sport is going on and stream it live. Show ads. I don’t care.
And if that exists, then I don’t know why I don’t know that.
I’m cool with network TV showing highlights and all that. But they showed the entire US/Canadian softball game that had already happened. Lame. And then they cut from skateboarding, which I was really interested in, to something else.
It all seems so antiquated.
Just let me stream it for free. I don’t get why this doesn’t happen.
The wife and I have watched a little bit in the evening. I have found some of the commercials to be so maddening that I have changed the channel…especially the one about the Mongolian girl born with no legs. The emotional pandering drives me crazy. Surely I can’t be the only one here that feels that way. I’m sure Spells cries every time tho. Tee hee! I love fucking with you Troy.
I don’t know why I just can’t log into an “olympic” channel and pick whatever sport is going on and stream it live. Show ads. I don’t care. And if that exists, then I don’t know why I don’t know that.
I assumed that was going to be possible, but apparently not, and I am equally mystified as to why.
I like the olympics. But the path to watching them is too much for me to handle. I don’t know why I just can’t log into an “olympic” channel and pick whatever sport is going on and stream it live.
One nice thing has been that NBC has basically put highlights of the really good stuff up on Youtube. I caught up on all of the wrestling matches that way, although would rather have watched them live (at 4:00 AM local time?)
Drag to see the karate final end in a DQ on a knockout. I don’t recall seeing somebody score a KO with a lead leg round kick. Dude was fast.
Any links? And how did they handle the similarity between Olympic taekowndo and karate? And overall, what did you think of Olympic karate? Was it successful both as a sport and spectator event?
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Drag to see the karate final end in a DQ on a knockout. I don’t recall seeing somebody score a KO with a lead leg round kick. Dude was fast.
Any links? And how did they handle the similarity between Olympic taekowndo and karate? And overall, what did you think of Olympic karate? Was it successful both as a sport and spectator event?
Wrote this long ass thing and it didn’t post. That’s aggravating.
Any links?
10 sec before KO here: https://youtu.be/A1HQDP-tkxo
And how did they handle the similarity between Olympic taekowndo and karate?
It’s pretty different. The rules are farther apart then Greco vs. Freestyle Wrestling. TKD you can’t score head punches, can’t sweep, no takedowns. IIRC they also don’t necessarily stop to score by default.
And overall, what did you think of Olympic karate?
It’s more “sporty” than when I was in, and the rules are a little different, and they’re conforming to a rule set. The challenge is with striking tournaments is you have to figure out a way to have a large field and not wreck all the competitors. You can:
a) remove head punches of any contact, like TKD or Kyokushin
b) increase protective equipment and open up contact, like boxing/MT
c) Limit protective equipment and restrict head contact – WKF/Olympic karate.
d) MMA rules – K.D./K.O. limit number of matches in a week. I don’t know how you do this with a large field.
The main problem that comes up is people end up with tooth/facial bone injuries, cuts, etc., and at the international level refs hate DQing people so things used to get out of hand. In the late 90s early 00s guys were getting multiple concussions in a day and you could see them still a little punchy days later. Fractures around sinuses, orbital bones etc. all shitty stuff. Even now they had an Italian lady get a pretty bad cut on the head and got blood everywhere, German dude broke his elbow I think, and there’s only 3 weight classes per gender right now.
In that gold medal match, they basically had to DQ *somebody* because you pretty much have to blast somebody to KO with a lead leg like that, and if that’s permitted the competitors will escalate since it’s easier to fight a guy once his nose is broken. Arguably the other guy was coming really careless, but the Saudi was very, very fast.
Was it successful both as a sport and spectator event?
I’m probably a bad judge of that. I find Olympic TKD uninteresting and I suspect most people find the same about this, minus the injuries.
At least a couple people are accepting Karate Combat contracts so that will be very interesting.
Thanks for the answers. After I posted I tracked down the Olympic final you are talking about. Seemed to me that the Iranian was to blame for the KO, he was coming in with his hands low and ate a snap kick. It didn’t seem to me like the Saudi was winging full blast, but the combined momentum was enough for lights out. He was fast as hell tho.
So do you think that karate will replace TKD as the “Olympic sport with people punching and kicking in white outfits”?
Also, do you follow Karate Combat? I posted some fights from there back in the day and am glad to see it advancing.
I was excited to watch it, but didn’t find it compelling. I get the need to not blast somebody, but then it just looks goofy. Like fencing where you are trying to touch somebody on a body part, but not with a cool rapier.
They could just have little probes on their gloves and wire suits, and try to make contact and set off a buzzer. Like competition tickling.
That Saudi had speed.
So do you think that karate will replace TKD as the “Olympic sport with people punching and kicking in white outfits”?
It’s already not in the Paris Olympics, which was decided before the competition, so quite unlikely. Also, Olympic TKD has been around forever now.
Also, do you follow Karate Combat? I posted some fights from there back in the day and am glad to see it advancing.
I have a little bit, I GIF’d that one back in the early ones of the Spaniard, sweeping and wrecking that guy. It was pretty sweet. It sounds like they have GSP, Bas, and Machida coaching, which is awesome, as it reflects stylistically the three guys who found success (maybe less so GSP who’s really a grappler to me but still).
It’s almost inevitable to me that the optimal fighting style will move towards whatever the gear and rules reward. At the moment, they are using some really big gloves, so I think it will look a lot more like kickboxing in a short period of time. Less risk of a one-punch knockdown will narrow stances and reduce need for range control. For me, that sort of flies in the face of the coolest part of karate. Watching early UFC Machida bouts where he’s controlling distance and bewildering people was great. Make them kickbox and you’re probably going to see mediocre kickboxers. Machida talked about competing in this at some point and I think he will do terribly with gloves that big.
I would somewhat prefer smaller glovers like UFC sizes, as the stance there will more closely resemble a karateka’s fighting stance, and the risk head punches goes way up.
I can definitely see what you mean about the glove size making a big difference. It would be better if they used MMA gloves, I don’t like to see guys fight with their hands low and not respecting punches. Machida would always lower his hands at range and rest his shoulders, but had enough sense to bring them up when he was in close.
There was an Olympics ? But seriously, for the first time in my life I didn’t watch a single second of coverage. This is sad because when I was a kid, the Olympics, especially Winter, were huge in my house. The whole family would get together to watch. They were always politicized, protests in ’68, boycotts in ’80 and ’84 but it just seems nastier now. I’m old and tired and just can’t give a shit anymore. It all seems like a big waste of money and resources now.
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