ebola quarantine--governmental overreach?

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A Maine judge on Friday ruled in favor of a nurse who defied a quarantine in a tense standoff with state authorities, saying local health officials failed to prove the need for a stricter order enforcing an Ebola quarantine. . . .
Her attorney, Norman Siegel, called the decision a victory. "She won," he said. "She is not quarantined. She can go out in the public. ... (The judge) got the understanding of what liberty is about and how the government can't restrict your liberty unless there is compelling justification."
I haven't paid the closest of attention to this. Is she not even agreeing to get tested on a daily basis for temperature and symptoms?
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The order, signed on Friday by Judge Charles C. LaVerdiere, the chief judge for the Maine District Courts who serves in Kennebec and Somerset counties, said the nurse, Kaci Hickox, “currently does not show symptoms of Ebola and is therefore not infectious.”

The order requires Ms. Hickox to submit to daily monitoring for symptoms, to coordinate her travel with state health officials, and to notify them immediately if symptoms appear. Ms. Hickox has agreed to follow the requirements.
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Maine had pushed for Ms. Hickox to abide by what it considers an “in home” quarantine, based on guidelines issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Under those guidelines, anyone who has had direct exposure to Ebola should, during the 21-day incubation period of the virus, be monitored daily by health officials, coordinate travel with the authorities, stay away from public places and gatherings, not go to work, and maintain a three-foot distance from others.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/01/us/eb ... -news&_r=0
This was a compromise. Not exactly the FREEDOM that dmw has been mewling about.
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/31/health/us ... index.html
Per CNN, she should be quarantined.
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Of coarse, our media is little paying attention to what a medical professional is doing:
Dr. Colin Bucks sits in his Redwood City home every day -- completely alone. He sent his wife and dog to a hotel. The only time he goes out the front door is to retrieve food delivered into a cooler on his porch.

He won't even walk down the driveway to pick up the tossed fliers that are piling up.

Bucks, 43, a Stanford emergency physician, is one week into a 21-day quarantine since his return from a jungle camp in Liberia, where he served for a month on the front lines of the Ebola epidemic that killed about half his patients whose stories "hit you right in the gut."

Bucks remained healthy in what he called an "enormously austere" environment. The medical teams covered themselves head to toe in sweltering, yellow Hazmat suits while treating patients, then hosed the suits down with a bleach solution as they undressed. He has no symptoms and believes he poses no health risk to his community.

But unlike Maine nurse Kaci Hickox who has been making headlines by defying her quarantine order after returning from treating Ebola patients in Sierra Leone, Bucks has no quarrel with his required isolation. He knows that while unlikely, it's possible he could develop symptoms within 21 days of his last exposure to the virus that has killed nearly 5,000 people. And even though San Mateo County health officials have given him the go-ahead for bike rides or jogs through the neighborhood by himself, he chooses to exercise in the confines of his house.

"If I had to go outside the house, it would be completely safe. But for community reassurance, I'm staying completely inside my house and on the property," Bucks, a clinical assistant professor of surgery at the Stanford School of Medicine, said in a phone interview Thursday. "I wouldn't want anything to happen that would heighten community anxiety."

So far, he said, he's received nothing but support from his friends, colleagues and neighbors, people who appreciate his work that is helping to stem the deadly virus from spreading.
He is required to take his temperature twice a day and communicate with San Mateo County health officials at least once a day. As much as he thought he'd be bored watching TV during his quarantine, instead "the phone hasn't left my right ear since I got back." Doctors and hospitals and health organizations from throughout the country and around the world are calling him for advice on equipment and procedure to keep the virus contained. He's also interviewing potential recruits to volunteer in Ebola zones.
http://www.mercurynews.com/health/ci_26 ... ria-has-no
Something tells me Hickox is not nearly as busy.
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"mewling": is that what i have been doing? i am chastened.

i think they should drop the lady into an oubliette and check her around xmas.

i was simply interested in the competing interests of individual liberty and the protection of society. a herd of guys immediately used the thread to launch into predictable political bashing--who fucked up first or worst--and from there much of the commentary became a personal attack on the nurse.

perhaps most revealing is that not one of you said "would," which reveals the low-T levels of the regulars here.
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dead man walking wrote:i was simply interested in the competing interests of individual liberty and the protection of society. a herd of guys immediately used the thread to launch into predictable political bashing--who fucked up first or worst--and from there much of the commentary became a personal attack on the nurse.
She's getting attacked for her behavior because SHE made it a political issue, and she brought it on herself. She hurt her profession and the credibility of her employers by acting like this.

Just curious, but have you heard about any members of the military going on TV and complaining about their quarantine? I'm guessing that most of the servicemembers coming back from W Africa have never even seen an Ebola infected person.
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An NBC News crew was ordered under mandatory quarantine for possible Ebola infection after the network’s chief medical correspondent was allegedly spotted on a food run to a New Jersey restaurant, according to a report.

Dr. Nancy Snyderman and her crew had agreed to a voluntary quarantine when they returned to the United States from West Africa last week following their exposure to a cameraman who contracted the deadly virus.

But Snyderman, who lives in Princeton, NJ, was spotted outside the Peasant Grill in nearby Hopewell on Thursday afternoon, according to Planet Princeton. Snyderman, who was wearing sunglasses and had her long hair pulled back, waited while a man went inside the eatery to pick up a takeout order, Planet reported.
http://nypost.com/2014/10/13/nbc-crew-o ... uarantine/
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Nurse Ratchet's attorney is an Obama crony.

Do not think this issue helped BHO and his ilk at all in the elections.
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I knew that the elections would cure the Ebola epidemic.
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