Forum poll...

[Blaidd Drwg]

What a cunt you're being.

That's me attacking a seriously overrepresented gender on this forum.,

[Batboy2/75]

bats,
I thought the anti=semitic crap got sealed with the truce btwn Andy and HH.

So if you want to know, I don't consider you racist. As you recall, I invited you and your family to stay in my house when you were up my way. I like most folks here. Come visit me. Be your RL selves.

Don't be some cowardly nigger hater.

I didn't think you were inferring to me. Nor do I think you are a closeted ant-semite.

However, just who is that last sentence aimed at?

Here is my main point: this is a free speech forum. As long as nothing illegal happens here, I'm not about to sit by and see it ruined with voluntary or involuntary censorship. If there are people you feel are racists, point them out and quote their racist screeds. Let's have the lively debates that this free and open forum was created for.

I may disagree with you. I may agree with you. In the end, I harbor no ill will towards you and we move on to the next topic.

BTW- you just might regret that invite this summer as I have plans on driving through Montana this Summer.

[johno]

Random Thoughts

1 - Tim, rather than trying to box IG'ers in a corner with your Yes/No, Black/White poll, just start a discussion. If your writing skills are up to it.
I won't play along with your poll.

2 - Most of us are anonymous. Timmah and a few others are in a different situation. If I had Tim's public profile, I'd flee this Den of Filth. Nevertheless, Timmah makes appearances here, and is a longstanding IGx degenerate. Ergo, Fuck You, Timmah - may your Cabin burn in eternity.

3 - Here's why I give Kaz the benefit of the doubt, although he seems maniacally focused on black offenders…

I'm sick of the PC "Black Man can't succeed 'cause the White Establishment got They Boot on the Poor Black Man's Neck." I'm sick of the reflexive jump to "White Racism" every time a black & white person mix it up*. I'm sick of the racist Al Sharpton being given a moment's time on the airwaves, when he is a One Man Hate Group.

I'm sick of the PC blindness to the cancer that is "Black Popular culture," embodied by violence, tolerance of violence, illegitimacy, victimization, and hatred of the US as some unique evil in the world.

However over the top, Kaz's rants are like a breath of fresh air after the PC water boarding we get from polite society.

Black Folk have 99 problems, and White Racism is none of them.


* Think Tawanna Brawley, Bernard Goetz, the phony Church Arsons, the Duke Lacrosse kerfuffle, the Baby Trayvon Execution. Ad infinitum.
Read Coulter's "Mugged," if you have the guts.

[seeahill]

bats,
I thought the anti=semitic crap got sealed with the truce btwn Andy and HH.
b]Don't be some cowardly nigger hater[/b].

I didn't think you were inferring to me. Nor do I think you are a closeted ant-semite.

However, just who is that last sentence aimed at?

Here is my main point: this is a free speech forum. As long as nothing illegal happens here, I'm not about to sit by and see it ruined with voluntary or involuntary censorship. If there are people you feel are racists, point them out and quote their racist screeds. Let's have the lively debates that this free and open forum was created for.

I may disagree with you. I may agree with you. In the end, I harbor no ill will towards you and we move on to the next topic.

BTW- you just might regret that invite this summer as I have plans on driving through Montana this Summer.

You and your family are welcome here, Bats. August is fire seanon.

But hey, free speech. I don't like nigger hating posts. Free speech. I said it. Seems I'm getting slammed for expressing my my opinion. Gimme a break here.

[seeahill]

Johno,
As always, a measured response and something to think about.

[Batboy2/75]

bats,
I thought the anti=semitic crap got sealed with the truce btwn Andy and HH.
b]Don't be some cowardly nigger hater[/b].

I didn't think you were inferring to me. Nor do I think you are a closeted ant-semite.

However, just who is that last sentence aimed at?

Here is my main point: this is a free speech forum. As long as nothing illegal happens here, I'm not about to sit by and see it ruined with voluntary or involuntary censorship. If there are people you feel are racists, point them out and quote their racist screeds. Let's have the lively debates that this free and open forum was created for.

I may disagree with you. I may agree with you. In the end, I harbor no ill will towards you and we move on to the next topic.

BTW- you just might regret that invite this summer as I have plans on driving through Montana this Summer.

You and your family are welcome here, Bats. August is fire seanon.

But hey, free speech. I don't like nigger hating posts. Free speech. I said it. Seems I'm getting slammed for expressing my my opinion. Gimme a break here.

Well slam someone back.

[seeahill]

Bats,
How 'bout the fuckin' spics?

[The Ginger Beard Man]

Not sure how anyone can pretend that the volume of anti-Semitism bears even a passing resemblance to the daily parade of "lol darkies" that overwhelms the signal to noise ratio around here.

In the time you've been here that is probably accurate.
Since I've been around I've read a shitload of anti Semitic stuff. When I was new I posted a topic about Jews, but I was fucking around and being a dick because I could.
However, over the years I've seen some really authentic Jew hate posted on this forum.
I won't try to quantify it and say there's been more of one or the other. Just that it's a lot.

[Batboy2/75]

Bats,
How 'bout the fuckin' spics?

I hate them too.

[johno]

Tim, I don't like the word "Nigger," either, and don't use it. But guess who has introduced it into the popular culture, and made it hip & cool to use?
Hint: not the KKK.
Second hint: not Kaz.

Take it up with Dre, Snoop, and Kanye.

[The Ginger Beard Man]

Tim, I don't like the word "Nigger," either, and don't use it. But guess who has introduced it into the popular culture, and made it hip & cool to use?
Hint: not the KKK.
Second hint: not Kaz.

Take it up with Dre, Snoop, and Kanye.

It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand.

[seeahill]

Bats,
Re: spics

Yeah, I wish I could hate them too but my Spanish is getting really good and I like to sling it around.

[Batboy2/75]

Bats,
Re: spics

Yeah, I wish I could hate them too but my Spanish is getting really good and I like to sling it around.

I was referring to some of my extended family.

[seeahill]

bienvenido

[johno]

Vaya con Dios, Maricons. Buenas Noches.

[seeahill]

Vaya con Dios, Maricons. Buenas Noches.

Brand new shoe shoes right back atchu buddy.

[Blaidd Drwg]

Timmah is getting slammed for expressing stupid opinions...and is in turn expressing butthurt..Balance Pertains.

[Protobuilder]

Timmah is getting slammed for expressing stupid opinions...and is in turn expressing butthurt..Balance Pertains.

Yeah, man. If he doesn't like free speech, he needs to shut the fuck up and get out!

[Kenny X]

I want to approach this from another angle.

IGx is the only Internet forum I bother with, for 3 reasons:

1. There is a broad spectrum of useful training advice and information here, tempered with Truthiness and a critical eye.

2. I like pretty-much all the folks here and I enjoy reading the colorful things they say, even when HH spouts all his Zionist propaganda (and I hope the fact that I typed that last bit with my tongue firmly planted in-cheek comes through -more on this in a minute).

3. This forum is devoid of the whining and bitching that I have observed on countless other forums, and I don't consider Timmay's original post "whining."


I noticed something disturbing a while ago, long after I escaped the Nuremburg Trials by the skin of my teeth, with the help of the United States Government, and shortly before I signed-up here on IGx-

"THE OUTSIDER's INNER-CIRCLE" that forums had become. Meaning- every forum I went to seemed like a haven for losers, neck-beards, radical feminists and so-called "Enlightened Males," ALL of whom were probably picked last for kickball and dodgeball when they were kids, and grew up into overly-sensitive, PC Police who sought refuge in these little corners of the Web, and began policing literally everything other folks said from the safety of their keyboards.

I hated it. Hated the PC love-fest. Hated the "watch your language" warnings. Hated the whining.

The forums had turned into support groups for motherfuckers who couldn't make a life choice and live it, without an audience and a group of people to back them up with kind words whenever family or friends "just can't understand it."

Fuck that.

It was depressing and intolerable.


So I crash-landed here and made a lot of good friends. Learned a lot about training, made many positive changes to my training based on information the folks here kindly made available to me (and I appreciate your time, thank you!), and I've enjoyed the riotous laughter that the banter gives me here in the Free Speech forum.

I like that NOTHING is above the eye of criticism, here. EVEN OUR OWN VIEWS. And I like that everything is up for being called-out and I appreciate that even when it is, it can be debated about in this manner, as opposed to talks of banning people, "can't we all just get along" bullshit, and the like.

And as it pertains to my tongue in-cheek humor, my persona here, that of an ex-NAZI scientist who's left National Socialism behind in-favor of making $$$Big Motherfucking Dollars$$$ in a Capitalist economy manufacturing and selling Legit Dick Steroids, with some old habits dying hard, well, it's just in the name of silliness. It's a goof. How could it not be? And I like the fact that I can do this shit here, because it affords me the ability to make a mockery of things that I think are bullshit- like the supplement industry at-large, and the backhanded, double-dealing nature of the Federal Government, too, in a way that -hopefully- brings folks the laughs.

As to the reality of me, we all know that I don't have a problem with ANYBODY, save for jackasses who act ignorant, and extremist Muslims.

And I think this forum ought to carry on as it has been, because it's the only place on the Net of it's kind, and the culture that we have here can't be allowed to die.

[milosz]

Tim, I don't like the word "Nigger," either, and don't use it. But guess who has introduced it into the popular culture, and made it hip & cool to use?
Hint: not the KKK.
Second hint: not Kaz.

Take it up with Dre, Snoop, and Kanye.

As readings of history go, this one is insane.

[SAR]

Bah. Y'alll take this too seriously. When I get tired of reading the shit here I just stop a while. It's been more often of late but participation here is voluntary

Kumbaya

[nafod]

Black Folk have 99 problems, and White Racism is none of them.

Assuming you're right, when did that happen?

The history of blacks in America is pretty sordid. They were literally dragged over here and treated like animals, breeding them and selling off kids and shit, and then not wanted once we were done with them. What was the South thinking? That Slavery, like Herpes, was forever? With 40% of the southern population slaves and the tide of history pointing towards abolition, it was an inevitable train wreck. For the next hundred years everything short of slavery was used to keep'em down. Jim Crow laws weren't repealed until the mid-60s. In 1967 a mixed race couple did jail time. They got a shit deal for a hell of a long time. The idea that all of that hasn't echoed through to today is ludicrous, like pretending history doesn't exist.

At the same time I can't do anything about all that, and there's no undoing it. All I can offer, all the smart ones want, and all that anyone is going to get from me, is a color-blind interaction to the best of my ability.

[Turdacious]

Black Folk have 99 problems, and White Racism is none of them.

Assuming you're right, when did that happen?

The history of blacks in America is pretty sordid. They were literally dragged over here and treated like animals, breeding them and selling off kids and shit, and then not wanted once we were done with them. What was the South thinking? That Slavery, like Herpes, was forever? With 40% of the southern population slaves and the tide of history pointing towards abolition, it was an inevitable train wreck. For the next hundred years everything short of slavery was used to keep'em down. Jim Crow laws weren't repealed until the mid-60s. In 1967 a mixed race couple did jail time. They got a shit deal for a hell of a long time. The idea that all of that hasn't echoed through to today is ludicrous, like pretending history doesn't exist.

At the same time I can't do anything about all that, and there's no undoing it. All I can offer, all the smart ones want, and all that anyone is going to get from me, is a color-blind interaction to the best of my ability.

1. Mentioning Jim Crow laws is only partially accurate-- Northern cities had very effective policies for keeping blacks down that revisionist liberal historians don't ever want to mention.

2. Federal poverty policy is extremely effective at keeping the poor from entering the middle class. Black americans were, partially (and largely) as a part of the things you mention, largely impoverished when it was implemented.

[Turdacious]

Just a taste on why this is a more complicated issue than we studied in school:

The Corwin Amendment was passed by the House on February 28, 1861 and by the Senate on March 2, 1861, but was ratified only by Ohio, Illinois, and Maryland.[180][181] It would have forbidden the adopting of any constitutional amendment abolishing or restricting slavery within a state, or permitting the Congress to do so. Originally drafted by Abraham Lincoln's future Secretary of State, William H. Seward, and put forward by Senator Thomas Corwin of Ohio, this proposal was an unsuccessful attempt to persuade the border states not to secede from the Union.[182] In Lincoln's first inaugural address, he stated that he had "no objection" to the amendment, as he believed that its provisions were already implied in the Constitution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth ... nstitution

IL, OH, and MD were union states.

[milosz]

1. Mentioning Jim Crow laws is only partially accurate-- Northern cities had very effective policies for keeping blacks down that revisionist liberal historians don't ever want to mention.

So what you're saying is that racism and its effects are actually more pervasive, stretching far beyond the boundaries of the south. Cool.

I'm curious who these "liberal historians" are that claim that the US north of the Mason-Dixon was free from racial strife.