A Future US Armed Rebellion

[Gene]

Probably be a "tiny rebellion"....

1. Someone gets their property stolen by a rich friend of a crooked Judge or Politician under a kinky application of "Easement". Property owner, seeing that Justice isn't blind, goes for their piece. Crooked Judge or Politician gets dead or ends up in jail. For the next ten years nobody steals property in that country - they don't want to end up like the last crook.

2. Someone's pre-teen girl gets her genitals examined by the School District without the parent's permission. She comes home crying like she's been raped. Dad grabs a gun, creates a hostage stand off and is peaceably arrested. Jury sentences him to a petty charge. Bureaucrat who ordered the "genital examination" gets sacked without retirement pay.

This happened in East Stroudsburg PA Instead of violence the parents sued the school district. Courts ruled against the the school district. http://sisterlakes.net/exams.html

3. Batshit teacher asks kids if their parents "teach them about God". One of the kid belongs to a fringe branch of Christianity. She and the Teacher get into a piss contest in front of the class. The teacher turns the kid in as "at risk" because of "cultist parents". Teacher sends Children and Youth Services to confiscate the kid. Mom grabs a gun, holds off CYS. She's arrested. During the trial the truth comes out. Mom gets probation. Teacher gets fired.

4. Corrupt local Government stuffs the ballot box. Intimidates voters. Locals rise up. This happened in Athens Tennessee..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_ ... %281946%29

5. Rich Company starts stealing land for mineral rights. Locals rise up. The Company backs down from the armed resistance. During the trial of the "insurrectionists" it's discovered that the Company bribed crooked officials.

Nobody likes violence but most folks hate being helpless more than they hate being violent.

A real insurrection? The Government would cut off the electricity, natural gas, fuel and food. The rebellion would collapse in days. Rambo didn't need to eat.

[tough old man]

Rambo killed a pig. Bacon for the rebellion.

[Andy83]

A real insurrection? The Government would cut off the electricity, natural gas, fuel and food. The rebellion would collapse in days. Rambo didn't need to eat.

This is the answer. Within days the food store shelves would be emptied. Hoard all the food you can starting now if you think the insurrection will be coming soon. Get away from urban areas. and out in the country where all the farm animals reside.

[DARTH]

A real insurrection? The Government would cut off the electricity, natural gas, fuel and food. The rebellion would collapse in days. Rambo didn't need to eat.

This is the answer. Within days the food store shelves would be emptied. Hoard all the food you can starting now if you think the insurrection will be coming soon. Get away from urban areas. and out in the country where all the farm animals reside.

And this here is why hipster Lib douchbags, yuppies and other urban and mega burb dwellers are fucked if it comes from a collapse. This why we're going to the country. Food grows and is born there all the time.

That is also why those who fight for the America the Founder's wanted are going to be hard, commited and resourcefull and a side that will have to rely on little cunts and the anti Kaz pack will fucking fall.

Collapse 35 - 45% chance in the next 6 months to 5 years.

Cival war, with states breaking off, the military devided and what not 20 - 25% chance.

IRA type of thing? 50-60%

The Dinks or the Jawas nuking us as we become cunts? 15 - 20%

Race war? 25 - 35%

I can see some places being pockets of complete belligereence towards the feds.

Obama being arrested and thrown out when he just goes too far? 50 - 60%

Obama's past being uncovered as to who paid for his education and the Supreme Court rulling against him in the upcomming document forgery case? 60 - 75%

Some lone assasin killing him 60 - 70%

A Cabal of rich and powerfull people having him killed, about the same.

At any rate something big or a few big things are going to happen in the next few years.

[TerryB]

The funniest thing about the doomsdayers is they are usually entirely unequipped to actually solve problems in the 21st century that don't involve shooting one another.

[Thatcher II]

Actually, most doomsdayers can skin a buck, make a fire, catch a fish, change oil, purify water, grow shit and would thrive relative to effete persons of chair.

[Holland Oates]

Actually, most doomsdayers can skin a buck, make a fire, catch a fish, change oil, purify water, grow shit and would thrive relative to effete persons of chair.

So you're saying you're doomed.

[TerryB]

Actually, most doomsdayers can skin a buck, make a fire, catch a fish, change oil, purify water, grow shit and would thrive relative to effete persons of chair.

Can they make their own prescription antidepressants?

[Batboy2/75]

One or two factors would have to be present for an Armed insurrection to happen:

Economic\political collapse: The Balkans, Lebbenon, post WW I Germany, and Post Czarist Russia are excellent examples of societies defending into armred conflict.

Regional or State succession: The War between the States, Bloody Kansas fights, the Missourri bush wackers are excellent examples of regional and successionist conflicts on American soil.

All it would take is for a state or even a region to stop complying or try to succeeded from the USA or even just a state. For example, say Texas, Wyoming, and or Montana refuse to comply with a Federal law they felt was unconstitutional. Causing a Constitutional stand off not seen since the 1850s and the question of slavery. Either the Feds have to back down or they need to make an example of the State. This type of scenario could easily spin out of control and effect every state and region. Not a single State is entirely Red or Blue. The City of Austin could succeed from Texas. Up state NY from NY, eastern WA and OR from the respected States. Northern or Eastern/central CA from CA.

Imagine eastern WA succeeding from western WA. The WA state officials try to enforce their authority over the region. The fighting brings in militia fighters from neighboring Idaho and Oregon. There are autrocities on both sides etc. The fighting brings in the state of Idaho, who is sympathetic to the cause of eastern WA residents and or is concerned about the chaos across the border and or is concerned the chaos will spill over into their state. This forces the Feds to do something. You can see where is is going.

Or say the state of Idaho, in preparation for a stand off with the Federal Government, starts buying a caching huge amounts of armaments. Starts to purge their state guards of non loyal state guardsmen. What are the Feds going to say or do? The states buy armaments all the time; planes, tanks, anti tank missiles, anti air craft missiles, drones, artillery, small arms etc. The have there own Armies and Airforce.

The idea that lone militias with no state backing are going to take on the Federal Gvt is crazy. Just as crazy as believing that the 50 US states are not sovergn states that just happen to have state owned advanced military weapons. Any armed revolution will have militias of all political stripes, however it will be lead by and involve the states.


No chance of happening? History and experience say otherwise.

[TerryB]

All it would take is for a state or even a region to stop complying or try to succeeded from the USA or even just a state.

Oh, that's all?

No chance of happening? History and experience say otherwise.

What history, you idiot? Burning Kansas? The Balkans? Post-Czarist Russia? Really?

Obviously, you're not a golfer.

[bigpeach]

You all should stock up on batteries and light bulbs.

The Constitution does a fine job of preserving the State and the Military that defends it is a great insurance policy against the mythical dark regime that the NRAers believe is marching into our homes and taking everything. Fringe righties and lefties will occasionally leave their mark with various acts but an actual civil war is nothing but ratings-grabbing fodder for AM radio hosts.

The downfall of the USA is slow, and will take hundreds of years. Started in the 80s when we turned from an industrial nation to a finance nation. Same thing that happened to Rome and the Brit empire. We do though have some tremendous advantages that slow our decay;
1) we produce a shit ton of calories per capita
2) over-population isn't an issue within our borders
3) best. geography. ever.
4) American spirit. Still alive and well. We can still out-invent anyone and a lot of smart people from around the world still want to come here to study and do business. If we steer more kids into Science, Tech, Trades, and Education instead of Finance and Law, we will stay at the top for a long, long time.

[baffled]

What about the news that the US has a chance to become a net oil exporter, partially thanks to fracking(?), by as soon as 2030?

It would seem that if we can do that without destroying our environment, that no matter where we're at by then, most people would be turned off to any sort of an insurrection. A lot of moolah coming in if that works?

Serious question because I am not informed well at all on this topic. Energy and shit. Not the nuttery of a full on armed insurrection.

I did make a prediction in one of my college courses that the US would break into multiple "United Stateses" at some point, but I don't think it'll happen in my or my non existent children's lives. Or their kids' lives. Or probably ever.

I drank a lot in college.

[Turdacious]

An armed rebellion would likely be because of reasons similar to our founding-- the wealthiest part of the British Empire felt that their legal rights were not being enforced; they felt they were paying far more in taxes than the benefits they were receiving; had the infrastructure to survive on their own; and felt they would be better off independent.

[nafod]

An armed rebellion would likely be because of reasons similar to our founding-- the wealthiest part of the British Empire felt that their legal rights were not being enforced; they felt they were paying far more in taxes than the benefits they were receiving; had the infrastructure to survive on their own; and felt they would be better off independent.

The Rolling Stones? Their loss, our gain.

[Batboy2/75]

All it would take is for a state or even a region to stop complying or try to succeeded from the USA or even just a state.

Oh, that's all?

No chance of happening? History and experience say otherwise.

What history, you idiot? Burning Kansas? The Balkans? Post-Czarist Russia? Really?

Obviously, you're not a golfer.

Don't let history and human experience intrude in your fantasy world proto.

[cleaner464]

Once again - http://www.theonion.com/articles/south- ... -year,377/

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/09/29 ... ise-again/

Why don't you guys just threaten with death the parents of the victims at Sandy Hook? Your fellow fetishists have already done so. That should get them to shut up and get the heat off.

[cleaner464]

Elite militia men -

[Andy83]

YESSS! BAN AND CONFISCATE ALL WEAPONS SO NEWTOWN CAN NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN!!
Yep, that's the answer!

[Turdacious]

Cleaner is excited. cleaner646 can't be looking forward to tonight.

[cleaner464]

The only things these guys would know to hunt or fish for are Big Macs and Whalers.

"Thunderdome" scenarios? Please. The only thunder you fly-overs make is from under-leg noises.

[cleaner464]

YESSS! BAN AND CONFISCATE ALL WEAPONS SO NEWTOWN CAN NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN!!
Yep, that's the answer!

Aren't there a bunch of heartbroken parents you should be threatening to kill?

[nafod]

Elite militia men -

I'm not sure a 5.56mm armor piercing round could penetrate that bottom guy. Good dude to follow through the door.

[___________]

A bullet from a fat retarded piece of shit is just as effective as a bullet from a seal team six operator.

[syaigh]

Elite militia men -

I'm not sure a 5.56mm armor piercing round could penetrate that bottom guy. Good dude to follow through the door.

His boobs put mine to shame.

[cleaner464]

Elite militia men -

I'm not sure a 5.56mm armor piercing round could penetrate that bottom guy. Good dude to follow through the door.

Those aren't Moobs on that guy; They're full blown tits!!