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Don't be a ponce.

I'm not the only person in the world to make a note of Scalias inherent racism. You can argue about nuance all you want. Perhaps it's like pornography, you know it when you see it. But don't be so fatuous as to assert, you're wouldn't think twice before saying some of the shit Scalia has popped off with.

I'm comfortable with mine but I don't play the fool....Scalias track record is pretty clear.
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Turd circles the wagons at the slightest dustup.

Granted, I'm no better. But, it is what it is.
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And fer fucks sake. I really like the guy. I don't think and awful lot of his originalism but I admit he brilliantly argues it and he was an intellect that towers over nearly any other recognizable figure in recent memory regardless of his regressive views on some things.
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The words racist and racism have almost become the go to accusation of anybody on the left with anybody they disagree with. And the words have lost their meaning.

It is not a secret, and there is endless data to prove it, that putting a less competitive student into a program with better prepared students is a predictably unsuccessful evolution. In Malcolm Gladwell's "David and Goliath", he points out the study of 3 stratas of schools, and breaks each school's class into thirds again. The top third of the top and middle level of schools are equally successful, and the bottom third only slightly lesser so. There is no doubt putting quotas in an entering class does them no favors, and is really only is a salve for the guilt of the legacy elitists who also get in those schools with lesser scores.

Lots of counter arguments to this, http://statisticalideas.blogspot.com/20 ... grams.html , but the results of quotas and AA do not benefit one group enough to defend the price paid by the more qualified.

So again i ask where does Scalia ever claim one race is inherently superior to the other?
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The preposterous mental gymnastics die hard reds and blues will go to to obfuscate a pretty simple concept is staggering. Scalia was right therefore he couldn't have been racist in, for instance, labeling the Voting Rights Act an entitlement program for blacks....

Is that you're only bench mark for whether something is racist? Really? So if we flip it around, affirmation action cannot be inherently racist because it stems from the notion that brown people are unable to compete because of their race? Poppycock... Affirmative action itself is racist because it treats people differently solely based on their haplotypes not on any other factors. That's racism.

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Blaidd Drwg wrote:The preposterous mental gymnastics die hard reds and blues will go to to obfuscate a pretty simple concept is staggering. Scalia was right therefore he couldn't have been racist in, for instance, labeling the Voting Rights Act an entitlement program for blacks....

Is that you're only bench mark for whether something is racist? Really? So if we flip it around, affirmation action cannot be inherently racist because it stems from the notion that brown people are unable to compete because of their race? Poppycock... Affirmative action itself is racist because it treats people differently solely based on their haplotypes not on any other factors. That's racism.

Life will be much easier for all y'all when you stop struggling to make sure your Icons remain untarnished. It doesn't work that way. Everybody gets dirty.
Hmmmmm, wonder if this is why the Ossiah is skipping the funeral. I thought it was just that Scalia was a conservative icon but maybe it's deeper. O is not one to tolerate racial slights real or imagined.
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DrDonkeyLove wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote:The preposterous mental gymnastics die hard reds and blues will go to to obfuscate a pretty simple concept is staggering. Scalia was right therefore he couldn't have been racist in, for instance, labeling the Voting Rights Act an entitlement program for blacks....

Is that you're only bench mark for whether something is racist? Really? So if we flip it around, affirmation action cannot be inherently racist because it stems from the notion that brown people are unable to compete because of their race? Poppycock... Affirmative action itself is racist because it treats people differently solely based on their haplotypes not on any other factors. That's racism.

Life will be much easier for all y'all when you stop struggling to make sure your Icons remain untarnished. It doesn't work that way. Everybody gets dirty.
Hmmmmm, wonder if this is why the Ossiah is skipping the funeral. I thought it was just that Scalia was a conservative icon but maybe it's deeper. O is not one to tolerate racial slights real or imagined.

He may be skipping the funeral becuase as he's shown pretty consistently, he's an entirely political animal with no reverence for his position and he lacks class as a human being.
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He's a Chicago politician. Nobody is surprised.

Plus...this:

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Affirmative Action allowed a non-qualitative means of racially balancing your University's enrollment.

I feel those charts are inherently dishonest, though perhaps statistically accurate with the legit date. Note they don't very far back to so you can't see how erratic enrollment trends are.

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Scalia requested a cremation, but millions of women are going to meet to decide what's best for his body.

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Blaidd Drwg wrote:
DrDonkeyLove wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote:The preposterous mental gymnastics die hard reds and blues will go to to obfuscate a pretty simple concept is staggering. Scalia was right therefore he couldn't have been racist in, for instance, labeling the Voting Rights Act an entitlement program for blacks....

Is that you're only bench mark for whether something is racist? Really? So if we flip it around, affirmation action cannot be inherently racist because it stems from the notion that brown people are unable to compete because of their race? Poppycock... Affirmative action itself is racist because it treats people differently solely based on their haplotypes not on any other factors. That's racism.

Life will be much easier for all y'all when you stop struggling to make sure your Icons remain untarnished. It doesn't work that way. Everybody gets dirty.
Hmmmmm, wonder if this is why the Ossiah is skipping the funeral. I thought it was just that Scalia was a conservative icon but maybe it's deeper. O is not one to tolerate racial slights real or imagined.

He may be skipping the funeral becuase as he's shown pretty consistently, he's an entirely political animal with no reverence for his position and he lacks class as a human being.
They sent a lesser-qualified African American with a disability in his place.
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Testiclaw wrote:Scalia requested a cremation, but millions of women are going to meet to decide what's best for his body.

/runs

I've seen this was circulating.....it's a winner everytime.

Sadly, his service should be attended by several thousand corner boys currently free because the PoPo failed to get warrants for their heat seeking radar sniffing dog GPS's...
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He had some good calls, I'll give him that.
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scalia was a political partisan.

you can dress him in an originalist costume--what is that's? a tri-corn hat!--but that doesn't change the simple fact that he was a conservative catholic determined to impose his view on the country whenever possible.

like bd, sometimes he was smart; sometimes he was a prick. he prolly wasn't as strong as bd, though.
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Don't be a ponce.

I'm not the only person in the world to make a note of Scalias inherent racism. You can argue about nuance all you want. Perhaps it's like pornography, you know it when you see it. But don't be so fatuous as to assert, you're wouldn't think twice before saying some of the shit Scalia has popped off with.

I'm comfortable with mine but I don't play the fool....Scalias track record is pretty clear.
And you need to eat a snickers. I'm aware that he opposed affirmative action, but haven't seen an argument as to why he was a racist. You're making the argument that being a racist is no big deal because it's all relative. ok.
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Don't be a ponce.

I'm not the only person in the world to make a note of Scalias inherent racism. You can argue about nuance all you want. Perhaps it's like pornography, you know it when you see it. But don't be so fatuous as to assert, you're wouldn't think twice before saying some of the shit Scalia has popped off with.

I'm comfortable with mine but I don't play the fool....Scalias track record is pretty clear.
And you need to eat a snickers. I'm aware that he opposed affirmative action, but haven't seen an argument as to why he was a racist. You're making the argument that being a racist is no big deal because it's all relative. ok.
The argument that it is "inherently racist" to oppose anything the left wants via AA, set asides, court protections, etc, is a very lazy intellectual argument. A sort of "settled science" approach. And as the fraud in peer review gets more and more well known, i question anybody whose argument is there is no argument. Or that their opponent is a racist. Yes, i do argue that if Scalia is absolutely correct in what he says, it is just that, calling it like he saw it. Our culture is farther now from a colorblind society than it was arguably 10 years ago, and absolutely further than 25 years ago.

The inherent danger can be seen in this little dumbass grenade that i saw today. The General in charge of the AF Thunderbirds is appalled that only white guys applied to the T-birds, and says Diversity is his main goal. Then denigrates the applicants who did apply. maybe even completely ignoring the level of deployments folks have endured and the ongoing largest airline hiring wave in history. Saw an awful lot of this nonsense my last few years in uniform. This, like surgery, is not something harmless or hypothetical like medieval history PhD programs, U of Missouri Journalism school, or UT law school. You want the best. And the truth is if a minority applies under this group of leaders unless they are a complete boob, they are in. Data available upon request.
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I am writing to request your assistance. For some, you are familiar with the request, for others it may be the first time, so please bear with me. I am asking for your help in finding the right pilots for next year’s Thunderbird team. Maj Gen Silveria, USAFWC/CC will also write your NAF/CCs asking similar.

The announcement is out and the suspense has passed for the applications for next year’s team, but we have only received 15 applications for the three demonstration pilot positions (#3,#6, and #8 narrator/advance pilot). While we have several qualified candidates that many of you submitted, I am lacking the depth in talent we’ve seen in previous years and I am lacking in diversity of gender, ethnicity and MDS background. Currently 14 white males have applied and zero applicants from the F-15C or F-22. I understand the Raptors are finally in the fight so many are taking their first chance at combat (ok couldn’t resist) and choosing not to apply.

If you handled this like I did as a FW/CC, I waited for interest and then flew with those who wanted to apply, and then wrote my letter of recommendation. What I didn’t do was actively look through my wing for those pilots that might do a great job representing our AF and benefit from the experience, and then have the conversation about becoming a Thunderbird. With over 200 days a year of TDY and a focus on retaining, recruiting and representing our AF, this has to be a volunteer, but I have found, and learned from others, that the reluctant volunteer often makes the best Thunderbird officer. I’d offer that those chosen for the team, do very well in school and promotion competition–often they come in with the record that supports that–but we have taken very good care of those with excellent records.



As you look out at your wings, I’d also ask you to look at those pilots that may have the ability to reach our audiences that don’t necessarily look like each of you. I have told the story in several audiences, including the ACC commander’s Conference, but it bears repeating: Two years ago, Thunderbird #3, Caroline “Blaze” Jensen had the longest lines post show for autographs. Additionally, I had several AF officers who wrote that their daughters, who had shown no interest in the AF, were now considering after seeing/talking to Blaze–one said she now wanted to be a Thunderbird. Being a female pilot allowed her to make connections none of the other pilots were able to do. While she brought a different gender demographic–she was also a reservist–she earned her position on the team and like each of team members, did an amazing job representing our AF. Currently our #8 is a reservist and he has done an outstanding job as well.

The stories go both ways. The Thunderbird First Sergeant last year was an African American female and would often “stand the line” after shows and talk to airshow attendees. One young African-American girl engaged the shirt and marveled at how she was a member of the team. The shirt asked if she would like to fly airplanes one day, the young girl immediately responded, “I can’t do that, I’m black.” This is 2016 America. The power of seeing someone that looks like you, doing something you want to grow up and do, cannot be overestimated.

Finally, I don’t expect a huge push of diverse applicants, primarily because our pool isn’t very diverse. But I need talent on the team as well, and some of the 15 applicants just don’t have the depth of record of our typical competitive applicant. I am hoping you have one or two you can engage and discuss the impact they could on our Air force by becoming a Thunderbird pilot.

The applicants will be selected on past performance, records, interviews and ability to become part of a team and humbly represent our AF–thus the pool of applicants ideally would represent our CAF.

In order to facilitate this last minute push, I will take a name and a letter of recommendation from the nominating WG/CC by next Wednesday. I’ll need full packages by 26 Feb, but we control the process and am willing to work with you to get the packages submitted in order to find the right applicants for the team.

This is the second time I’ve had to get out for additional applicants. Last year several of the last minute applicants became finalists, so I am hoping that with your help we can increase the size and depth of the pool. Additionally, this may be less a “you” issue and more of a “me” issue. If you have insights on why we are not getting the number of traditional applicants, I’d love to hear. The challenge cuts across many MDS on the team, so I think it is a reflection of a slightly tired force–but there may be other factors I’m missing. I would really appreciate your help, and if you can send this to your TFI partners, I would appreciate it as well (Bluto and Roscoe, request your assist). A similar email will go to those I know, but my contact list is not complete.

Appreciate your time and efforts supporting this mission,

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The argument that it is "inherently racist" to oppose anything the left wants via AA, set asides, court protections, etc, is a very lazy intellectual argument.
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Really? Is that what you gleened?

First of all you're chasing someone else's rabbit. I never said anything of the sort. I said, his record on at least two major cases contains inherently racist logic and ultimately, wording. By lumping broad categories of people by haplotype in a number of cases, he revealed his prejudgment in Spades (pardon the racist pun..couldn't help myself). By any reasonably popular definitions of the terms, he used language MOST reasonable people would consider racist. Now...thankfully, he did not and you can find great entertainment in his writing regardless of your opinion of him as a man or his deeply flawed thinking as an originalist (fundamentalist is a good proxy word here) .

More importantly and back to the point I think you're trying to make, Just becuase Da Left cries wolf constantly does not mean that there may not indeed be wolves at some point. Somewhere.

Secondly, But It's True is not a sound defense against being called out as expressing inherently racist commentary (the Voting Rights Act is another entitlement program). It is both possible that it is partly TRUE and that it is partly RACIST in both its intent and its logic. You grok that noth everything is black and white? (again..sorry) Life is grey as fuck. Reagan was great prez by many metrics, also a liar and a dolt. Clinton was an effective prez and a totla POS, MLK an inspiring speaker and a relentless philanderer....

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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Don't be a ponce.

I'm not the only person in the world to make a note of Scalias inherent racism. You can argue about nuance all you want. Perhaps it's like pornography, you know it when you see it. But don't be so fatuous as to assert, you're wouldn't think twice before saying some of the shit Scalia has popped off with.

I'm comfortable with mine but I don't play the fool....Scalias track record is pretty clear.
And you need to eat a snickers. I'm aware that he opposed affirmative action, but haven't seen an argument as to why he was a racist. You're making the argument that being a racist is no big deal because it's all relative. ok.

I'm not ignoring you, I'm just waiting for you to say something interesting. Or at least play the words as they lie.
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dead man walking wrote:scalia was a political partisan.

you can dress him in an originalist costume--what is that's? a tri-corn hat!--but that doesn't change the simple fact that he was a conservative catholic determined to impose his view on the country whenever possible.

like bd, sometimes he was smart; sometimes he was a prick. he prolly wasn't as strong as bd, though.
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upon rereading i see that my logic was flawed.

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I'm not the only person in the world to make a note of Scalias inherent racism.
BD,

Even without psychedelic meds i took from your sentence above that this was about "Scalia's inherent racism", not about his racist logic.

A difference, but not one i want to continue to beat on. But think of any member of the court's left, and try to come up any scurrilous charge routinely and predictably made when they come up with new and undiscovered rights and privileges....

Doesn't happen. I found Scalia to be a reliable originalist, but a bit of a snob. However, it IS important to get to the facts and the truth. As an aside i had to delete my use of the words "spade a spade" in my previous post. Endless AA and court driven voting districts leaves you with no more successful students and districts that look like Florida 5th,

http://gloforcongress.org/?page_id=271

and produce Representatives who have no clout, let alone intelligence.

The real world data and outcomes that decide and emit from what the Supremes say and write matters. A lot more than it should.
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Let me be perfectly clear.

Scalia was a racist.

His logic belied his racism.

His rulings in some cases were tainted by racism.

Personally, IDC.

I'm the very least of the voices on this earth to make note of this. Like literally the last least interested man at the party....but I'm no fool.

As for all the rest...I give zero fucks about Affirmative Action....I stated before,as long as we're calling a spade a spade, it too is a racist policy with all kinds of unintended consequences.

and I'm deadly serious.....

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I still haven't seen any basis or evidence for Scalia's racism. "Everybody knows" or "somebody said" doesn't convince me.

I have had my own disappointment with Scalia, based on his departure from federalism, and therefore, the 10th Amendment, on a certain marijuana case, Gonzales v. Raich. (In that case, Clarence Thomas took up the cudgel of "state's rights.") Since the early 1900's, the Supreme Court has mostly shit on the 10th Amendment anyway. But I had hoped for better from Scalia.
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OK, I think that the Left's way of using Racist as an automatic negative and a slur has actually redefined the term for a lot of my Right Wing buddies here. (Shit, the word Race itself is a misnomer, we are all one race, human, we do have different breeds, but i digress like I often do.)

Whenever something is based on race, it's racism, racist, racialist ect. Now that does not mean a moral judgement one way or another on it's surface. it's like Propaganda, it means information but since many shitty governments had Propaganda ministries we view the word to mean lies.

I think the thing that is getting some of your goats is you think BD is calling him a bigot. (well, I don't know his heart)

Good thing Scalia was racist by this definition. Fuck Affirmative action and fuck not looking at the outcomes of it. Statistically blacks have an average IQ of 70-80, that's not my opinion, that's what I have found when I've looked at about 5 different studies, many from Universities Turd or PL would never let their kids near as they are hotbeds of little fucking commies. It's just a fact. Does not mean all black people are borderline retards,just that if you took 100 of them, the average among them are a bit dim. There will also be a genius or 3 in that 100. Asians by the way edge out white folks, they have the highest on average IQs, we are right behind them than come "Hispanics" when they consider them separate from white, then Native American ( and that "Hispanic" they tend to use is effected by the fact that many so called Hispanics are a mix of Spanish blood and native American.) then come blacks. The lowest on most of these studies are aboriginal Australians.

So if you are going to pick 5 black kids over 5 white kids based solely on race, this is racist and there is a good chance that if you compared the 5 whites to the 5 blacks, at the top IQ range more of those 5 white will be there than of those 5 blacks.

Fuck, this is why I say on most applications for jobs or school, it should be illegal to ask your "Race", Should be completely on merit. No fucking "Racism" there!




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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Let me be perfectly clear.

Scalia was a racist.

His logic belied his racism.

His rulings in some cases were tainted by racism.

Personally, IDC.

I'm the very least of the voices on this earth to make note of this. Like literally the last least interested man at the party....but I'm no fool.

As for all the rest...I give zero fucks about Affirmative Action....I stated before,as long as we're calling a spade a spade, it too is a racist policy with all kinds of unintended consequences.

and I'm deadly serious.....

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