So that convention...

[Blaidd Drwg]

It's not out of step with them, it puts them in a broader and more productive context

HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


So...in other words, the GOP is afraid of losing their base instead of doing the right thing?

See...this is why I throw my vote away everytime....so I can make clear how sick of this shit we all are.

[Turdacious]

It's not out of step with them, it puts them in a broader and more productive context

HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


So...in other words, the GOP is afraid of losing their base instead of doing the right thing?

More like read my signature.

[Blaidd Drwg]

you've already given up...the GOP hasn't been "conservative" for 30 plus years.

it's also a load of horseshit.

[Testiclaw]

personal choice and responsibility.

Well, you see, if there was an All-Knowing, All-Powerful and All-Just omnipotent Deity, he would handle everything.

But since there isn't, he can't, so we need religious-based laws.

You really don't understand Christianity at all.

Which makes me different from Christians how?

[Testiclaw]

The great strength of conservatives is that they are open to the thought that matters are complex.

TAX CUTS.

[Turdacious]

The great strength of conservatives is that they are open to the thought that matters are complex.

TAX CUTS.

Economic reality is complex too. No state really wants to be California.

[Testiclaw]

The great strength of conservatives is that they are open to the thought that matters are complex.

TAX CUTS.

Economics is complex too.

This is true; there are capital gains tax cuts, corporate tax cuts, income tax cuts, payroll tax cuts, insurance tax cuts...

[Turdacious]

The great strength of conservatives is that they are open to the thought that matters are complex.

TAX CUTS.

Economics is complex too.

This is true; there are capital gains tax cuts, corporate tax cuts, income tax cuts, payroll tax cuts, insurance tax cuts...

Which, when done right, lead to greater government revenue.

[Testiclaw]

The great strength of conservatives is that they are open to the thought that matters are complex.

TAX CUTS.

Economics is complex too.

This is true; there are capital gains tax cuts, corporate tax cuts, income tax cuts, payroll tax cuts, insurance tax cuts...

Which, when done right, lead to greater government revenue, higher education, less war, less welfare, higher worker output, increased happiness, energy independence, no abortions and Christian social values.

[Turdacious]

I forget the brilliant logic of the testiclaw approach:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg0bclmJQlA[/youtube]

[Testiclaw]

I forget the brilliant logic of the testiclaw approach:

I forgot the brilliant logic of the Conservative approach:

[Turdacious]

Goes perfectly with your empty head. We were talking about tax cuts before you tried to change the subject.

[Testiclaw]

Goes perfectly with your empty head.

And perfect for the Conservative narrative of arguing against imaginary enemies and delusional realities.

PS does Christ know you're being mean to me online? Or is that okay since the interwebs isn't in your bible?

[Turdacious]

Proverbs 18:2

[Testiclaw]

Proverbs 18:2

Matthew 6:5

[Chessman]

But still, that's not the point, the context is the GOP's social platform and why it is a profound bust as it has been since Reagan. It is a BUST because it is radically out of step with core republican values of personal choice and responsibility. Hell, even that romney-twat Chessman thought it was a doctored version of the American Taliban.

Romney-twat. Groovy.

The economic and foreign policy goals of the GOP are being ignored intentionally in this thread in order to make it seem like they want to establish a Taliban-like religious rule of the US. That was what I meant. If you ignore the doctored list that Buckethead provided that told you exactly what you wanted to hear and instead looked at the whole platform, you'd know that. But that's not juicy, so I get it.

You aren't up on your history. The Christian morality wing has been a part of the Republican party right from the start. Even Wiki will tell you that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... ican_Party

You hate Christianity, I get that. So just vote Democrat with the atheists and the Papists. Or don't vote at all. But I don't see the problem with the GOP sticking up for what they believe. If you don't believe what they believe to a large extent then you aren't part of the group. See how that works?

[Grandpa's Spells]

Chessman, how was Bux's list doctored?

[FRKCTL]

But still, that's not the point, the context is the GOP's social platform and why it is a profound bust as it has been since Reagan. It is a BUST because it is radically out of step with core republican values of personal choice and responsibility. Hell, even that romney-twat Chessman thought it was a doctored version of the American Taliban.

Romney-twat. Groovy.

The economic and foreign policy goals of the GOP are being ignored intentionally in this thread in order to make it seem like they want to establish a Taliban-like religious rule of the US. That was what I meant. If you ignore the doctored list that Buckethead provided that told you exactly what you wanted to hear and instead looked at the whole platform, you'd know that. But that's not juicy, so I get it.

You aren't up on your history. The Christian morality wing has been a part of the Republican party right from the start. Even Wiki will tell you that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... ican_Party

You hate Christianity, I get that. So just vote Democrat with the atheists and the Papists. Or don't vote at all. But I don't see the problem with the GOP sticking up for what they believe. If you don't believe what they believe to a large extent then you aren't part of the group. See how that works?

certainly the abolitionist movement in the party was religiously inspired. but then so were many of the justifications for slavery by the southern Dems. obviously, the religious makeup of the two parties have flip flopped in the last 40 years. the modern evangelical religious right (descendants of southern slavery apologists for the most part)considered political activism from the pulpit (even a tv pulpit)too carnal until Falwell came along and later Robertson. Before them you had a couple of religiously inspired conservative activists, Richard Viguerie for one.
reagan was textbook machiavellian in his use of the religious right. he pandered to them, visited with them, pretended to be one of them, took their endorsements and votes, and yet he never went to church and he never made a serious move to enact their policy goals.

[dead man walking]

You hate Christianity, I get that. So just vote Democrat with the atheists and the Papists.

this is stupid.

christianity takes many forms and is practiced many ways. there are liberal christians. there are good christians for whom abortion and homosexuality are not the defining issues. there are christians who stand up and say (what one can imagine jesus would say), america is a wealthy enough nation that it should not make a virtue of cutting programs that feed our children and our poor.

the sanctioned faith of the republican party is not some pure and unalloyed christianity, and one need not hate christianity to hate the desire of the republican's to impose their doctrinaire religious thinking on our society.

[Turdacious]

You hate Christianity, I get that. So just vote Democrat with the atheists and the Papists.

this is stupid.

christianity takes many forms and is practiced many ways. there are liberal christians. there are good christians for whom abortion and homosexuality are not the defining issues. there are christians who stand up and say (what one can imagine jesus would say), america is a wealthy enough nation that it should not make a virtue of cutting programs that feed our children and our poor.

the sanctioned faith of the republican party is not some pure and unalloyed christianity, and one need not hate christianity to hate the desire of the republican's to impose their doctrinaire religious thinking on our society.

What a bunch of simplistic nonsense.

[DrDonkeyLove]

You hate Christianity, I get that. So just vote Democrat with the atheists and the Papists.

this is stupid.

christianity takes many forms and is practiced many ways. there are liberal christians. there are good christians for whom abortion and homosexuality are not the defining issues. there are christians who stand up and say (what one can imagine jesus would say), america is a wealthy enough nation that it should not make a virtue of cutting programs that feed our children and our poor.

the sanctioned faith of the republican party is not some pure and unalloyed christianity, and one need not hate christianity to hate the desire of the republican's to impose their doctrinaire religious thinking on our society.

Doctrinaire thinking that limits freedoms is the hallmark of the extremes of both parties. The fear that the USA will descend into some kind of Christian Taliban via the Repugs is ludicrous beyond measure. Our system of checks and balances will handle handle any such nonsense by the fundy community quite swimmingly.

Right now our financial situation is crumbling and to save it we need a responsible person who will get long term entitlements under control and create a business/governance climate where people can get a good job. Romney may or may not be that person; Obama is definitely not that person. Thus, Romney is the correct choice in 2012.

[dead man walking]

You hate Christianity, I get that. So just vote Democrat with the atheists and the Papists.

this is stupid.

christianity takes many forms and is practiced many ways. there are liberal christians. there are good christians for whom abortion and homosexuality are not the defining issues. there are christians who stand up and say (what one can imagine jesus would say), america is a wealthy enough nation that it should not make a virtue of cutting programs that feed our children and our poor.

the sanctioned faith of the republican party is not some pure and unalloyed christianity, and one need not hate christianity to hate the desire of the republican's to impose their doctrinaire religious thinking on our society.

Doctrinaire thinking that limits freedoms is the hallmark of the extremes of both parties. The fear that the USA will descend into some kind of Christian Taliban via the Repugs is ludicrous beyond measure. Our system of checks and balances will handle handle any such nonsense by the fundy community quite swimmingly.

Right now our financial situation is crumbling and to save it we need a responsible person who will get long term entitlements under control and create a business/governance climate where people can get a good job. Romney may or may not be that person; Obama is definitely not that person. Thus, Romney is the correct choice in 2012.

true re doctrinaire thinking from the right or left.

the republicans seem more in thrall of the doctrinaire crowd than once was the case. i find that contingent odious and, as noted, unchristian in important ways.

restoring the financial system may also require restraint in use of armed forces in faraway places and a requirement that the favored few to pay a larger share. i don't see romney taking on either of those two issues.

you needn't worry about my vote, however, since i live in vt, where the outcome is pre-ordained and the consequences largely irrelevant.

[Blaidd Drwg]

Chessman, we're not talking about the GOP's economic policies (spend but don't tax) we're bemoaning the the social platform for the specific reason that it's such utter nonsensical shite, it renders the rest of the party platform unsupportable.

Many of us agree with many core republican ideals but becuase the GOP has put so many eggs in the jesus/drug/war/eeekkk teh faggots! basket, no one with an ounce of sense could support them without holding their nose. We shouldn't have to.

[DrDonkeyLove]

You hate Christianity, I get that. So just vote Democrat with the atheists and the Papists.

this is stupid.

christianity takes many forms and is practiced many ways. there are liberal christians. there are good christians for whom abortion and homosexuality are not the defining issues. there are christians who stand up and say (what one can imagine jesus would say), america is a wealthy enough nation that it should not make a virtue of cutting programs that feed our children and our poor.

the sanctioned faith of the republican party is not some pure and unalloyed christianity, and one need not hate christianity to hate the desire of the republican's to impose their doctrinaire religious thinking on our society.

Doctrinaire thinking that limits freedoms is the hallmark of the extremes of both parties. The fear that the USA will descend into some kind of Christian Taliban via the Repugs is ludicrous beyond measure. Our system of checks and balances will handle handle any such nonsense by the fundy community quite swimmingly.

Right now our financial situation is crumbling and to save it we need a responsible person who will get long term entitlements under control and create a business/governance climate where people can get a good job. Romney may or may not be that person; Obama is definitely not that person. Thus, Romney is the correct choice in 2012.

true re doctrinaire thinking from the right or left.

the republicans seem more in thrall of the doctrinaire crowd than once was the case. i find that contingent odious and, as noted, unchristian in important ways.

restoring the financial system may also require restraint in use of armed forces in faraway places and a requirement that the favored few to pay a larger share. i don't see romney taking on either of those two issues.

you needn't worry about my vote, however, since i live in vt, where the outcome is pre-ordained and the consequences largely irrelevant.

Aye, true of me in NY as well. As somebody here said, the only votes that probably really matter are those in a few critical precincts in the swing states. Sadly, the Prez election is essentially meaningless to most of us and our vote is merely a statement of some kind.

[Turdacious]

Many of us agree with many core republican ideals but becuase the GOP has put so many eggs in the jesus/drug/war/eeekkk teh faggots! basket, no one with an ounce of sense could support them without holding their nose. We shouldn't have to.

But you do. The two expensive baskets are widely supported by both parties.