The couch thread

[cleaner464]

Someone took offense to my remark.
It was not a slam on the girl it was a slam on DD & the idiotic name they gave for that course

I'm offended by this attempt to clarify your position. Such things have no place here.

Very Groucho of you! :)

[stosh]

This is just a plain ol' good picture:

[ab g-d]

This is just a plain ol' good picture:

I think this applies to the "accuracy" componant of the "What is fitness" definition.

[Gary John]

Dumbest thing I ever did, was teach my wife to shoot.

[The Real Rant]

Happiness is a warm gun. More chicks should carry guns.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/14 ... etail.html

[stosh]

Really, really, really good debate on the use of belts for squats at CF today. One example:

The only reason people use weight belts and wrists wraps is because they can't lift the weight without them, i.e. they can't lift that weight. You can lift huge amounts of weight with a weight belt, but you're fooling yourself.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

No, it's bullshit.

A belt has it's place in any training regimen, especially when weights get heavy. And especially if you've been injured before. There's a lot of "fear-reactivity" going on when you get under a weight that's hurt you, and a belt helps stave that off.

And, personally, I don't normally use a belt when squatting, though I will use a belt when deadlifting starting around 475, so it's not because I'm biased.

The trouble with the WOD blog is that it's full of liars. People lying about time, people lying about weight, people just plain lying about shit.

[Danny John]

I wear a belt when I compete in the Clean and Jerk. That extra little bit seems to add a LOT to my platform lifts...without having to train for it.

[Blaidd Drwg]

Really, really, really good debate on the use of belts for squats at CF today. One example:

The only reason people use weight belts and wrists wraps is because they can't lift the weight without them, i.e. they can't lift that weight. You can lift huge amounts of weight with a weight belt, but you're fooling yourself.

Soem of the best things I've tried have involved "crutches" like belts and wraps.

Using a belt to get past a mental barrier, using straps to finish out a hard set of DL's has been really helpful. I've even used them almost like ladders with deadlifts trying to get 5 singles at 90%

First rep clean hook grip
Second alternate grip
third rep alternate hook grip
fourth rep, straps
fifth reps belt and straps.

sopunds goofy but is has helped me bust through some minor sticking points. Used sparingly by someone who's no fooling themselves they can be a big help, sort of like overloaded partial movements as long as your honest with it and know why you're doing it, no worries.

[Gary John]

So where was this bit of fluff at x-fit?

I just went there and forgot how horrible their discussion boards were.
Glad to see Greg Everett is firmy wedged up Glasshole's ass.

[Blaidd Drwg]

So where was this bit of fluff at x-fit?

I just went there and forgot how horrible their discussion boards were.
Glad to see Greg Everett is firmy wedged up Glasshole's ass.

WOD discussion, main page.

[powerlifter54]

PVC is the anti belt.

If the two touch in the flux capacitor, chaos insues.

[Fat Cat]

I had the director of Crossfit Hawaii at my house the other day. I'm selling him some of my old equipment and he came to pick it up. The plan was to bury him under a fresh layer of concrete, but he was just so damned fresh faced and sincere. He even asked me what forums I frequented...LOL. "Oh...here and there..."

[Blaidd Drwg]

I had the director of Crossfit Hawaii at my house the other day. I'm selling him some of my old equipment and he came to pick it up. The plan was to bury him under a fresh layer of concrete, but he was just so damned fresh faced and sincere. He even asked me what forums I frequented...LOL. "Oh...here and there..."

(Young Life+X Games) = Crossfit.

[Turdacious]

Lest we forget, beeump

[Danny John]

I never even read what was written about Josh Hillis until I followed this thread. Truly, that was inappropriate and shocking. Josh's blog is excellent and I think he is far better off now. Josh is a great guy and I recommend his "Stubborn Seven Pounds" to every woman who asks me about fitness.

How much of what was written would have been said to one's face? I should have let Gary go with Plan One...but I think, in hindsight, it all turned out better this way.

[Sassenach]

I never even read what was written about Josh Hillis until I followed this thread. Truly, that was inappropriate and shocking. Josh's blog is excellent and I think he is far better off now. Josh is a great guy and I recommend his "Stubborn Seven Pounds" to every woman who asks me about fitness.

How much of what was written would have been said to one's face? I should have let Gary go with Plan One...but I think, in hindsight, it all turned out better this way.

Eh, Josh seems to be a bit of a lech, but the Couch did go too far.

[Grandpa's Spells]

Holy crap that was two years ago:
http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/001021.html

[___________]

Josh Hillis,

You are making everything worse. Much worse.

“CrossFit was being slammed because you are known for attacking people personally when they disagree with you”

This is pure bull-shit. I attack the character of people for being unethical shitbags. It’s now your turn. I attacked one of your KB friends/elites for his racist comments and abuse of a young Pararescue trainee all for being black and wearing a CrossFit T-shirt at Pararescue jump-school where he is the bus driver. I attacked another guy’s character for taking a thread on CrossFit private sending G-Mac an email claiming to have secret knowledge of a gaggle of CrossFit-injured NSW personnel. G-Mac and the Doc’s at NSW know it’s a lie. The guy didn’t know of our work or contacts at NSW. He was suggesting, hell stating, that the NSW personnel considering CrossFit ought to come train with him and stay away from dangerous CrossFit. If ANYONE knows of an entire group hurt CrossFitting and can only talk about it privately they are being unethical. We all have an obligation to share first with the purveyor and then with the public any injuries endemic to any regimen. I couldn’t share all the details because G-Mac asked me not to let the dude know that he’d sent me the email. Shortly thereafter G-Mac released me from my promise. I challenged the guy to publicly deny my accusations of his unethical behavior. He never did.

You can't come up with an example of me attacking someones character for disagreeing with me. I can’t even imagine doing that. Most people disagree with me on most things and I don’t spend very much time attacking anyone. You are an asshole for saying so. Let’s be perfectly clear – I AM ATTACKING YOUR CHARACTER.

“The Dragon Door crew was hammering that you weren’t a good Coach because you don’t work out.”

Where did my not working out come from? It came from the NYT. Cooperman asked if I did the WOD every day. I said, “no, I’m usually experimenting on myself and others with protocols that will quickly be abandoned and it would be unethical to spread them to the community at large adding that most of what we monkey with will never make it to wider audience.” I also let her know that locally we only rarely do the WOD because I have better options, trainers, and equipment than does the cyber community of CrossFit. I also told her I had a penchant for bicycles that kept me from being as fit as I might. I was the original CrossFitter and I can, at 49, still outperform more CrossFitters than not.

And now I’m attacking your character for repeating the absurd charge. Note: not for you disagreeing with me but for your total lack of character in repeating that baseless NYT nonsense at DD and here. That it is coming from such incredibly weak performers as Jack (super-obese), you (9:40 70 lb, Fran), Stephen (26 minute Fran), and the rest of the best of the DD crew who perform at less than half the output of CrossFit women while also claiming CrossFit to be of limited efficacy (Here you’re innocent) makes me nauseous. Nearly all of the DD elite have either come to CrossFit and folded (very publicly collapsed and given up, come in last of 60+, been crushed by our women, rhabdoed) or hide behind nonsenical theoretical objections (e.g., adaptations are cyclic, not linear, therefor CF sucks, I'd like to see these CFers in 50 years, etc) and I have protected the reputations of all those who folded by never mentioning their limited fitness.

Poke fun of my limp as a friend – we’re cool. I’ve thicker skin than you’ll ever be able to understand. But when it comes from someone who falsely accuses me of routine character assassinations and stupidity, and sees fit to repeat NYT charges as fact, it becomes making fun of disability.

We have a therapy for injuries here at CrossFit called STFU. It’s your turn to take some. One more peep from you, Josh, and I'm going to ask and then follow Lynne Pitts recommendation on dealing with you. I'd take the STFU.

LOFL.

One of teh best interwebs flames of all timez.

[Grandpa's Spells]

Particularly funny to me was when I went to find it I googled : coach +"because you don't work out"

[Shafpocalypse Now]

Couch lays down the smacketh with righteous and holy indignation.

I think Hillis need to do some curls or something. I mean, damn, he's a twig.

ROCKSTAR ON JOSHIE BOY!

[Gary John]

January 23, 2006 was when the war really started. It was my birthday.

I still think my Plan 1 would have worked.

[___________]

Josh Hillis!

It's been called to my attention, sadly, that you:

a. Posted on Dragon Door that I say stupid things on the Internet all the time: here's your chance to give concrete examples or apologize for your trying to find friends and fit in at Dragon Door by saying stupid things on the Internet. In that I never post away from CF, it must be something I said here.

b. Found great humor in my limp: on this item I can only offer that had anyone but yours truly been the butt of that you would be banned from CrossFit for life and your certifications would be revoked. I don't find making fun of disability funny and those who do so repugnant. You are the first CF trainer to embarrass CrossFit.

For the record, your total inability to control even simple movements was of such concern at both CF seminars that my staff didn't want you cert'd. I intervened and asked Lani and others to give extra time to you before each day to work on the fundamentals so that you might find success rather than defeat with simple skills. How did you manage to leave that out when the subject of CrossFit and our relative emphasis on technique and form came up vis-�-vis the NYT slam?

Finally, it's been two weeks since the NYT piece and I'm no longer overweight (though I still limp), but I'm betting that Mark is still afraid to come around, Jack is still morbidly obese, Stephen still has a 30 minute Fran, you're still uncoordinated, and Pavel still losing his best (Jeff Martone just this weekend) talent to a program of higher standards, greater efficacy, and integrity.

LOFL, Teh Couch rulez teh interwebs.
Jack is obese? Fucking fuck............
BTW, my fav is "You are the first CF trainer to embarrass CrossFit"
Fucking Jesus, my eyes are watering here at my desk.

[Grandpa's Spells]

That shit was like Michael Vick drowning a puppy.

[___________]

That shit was like Michael Vick drowning a puppy.

Then Hillis trying to suck Couch's cock "vis-�-vis" teh interwebz.

Grow a set, Josh.
Shouldn't rockstarz have a big set?