The couch thread

bill fox · Post by **bill fox** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:02 pm

They had tried to recruit Martone as their "KB guy" after he left DD.

I don't think they'll dig this article where he disses people who "don't have a proper foundation of strength" doing plyos, which defines about 75% of CFers.

http://www.tacticalathlete.com/shootingarticle.htm

Mark Twight and Dan John. I'm proud to be mentioned (even if only to be dissed) in the same company.

Andy77 · Post by **Andy77** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:31 pm

Damn, Foxy, you're the world champion of all time thread starter. 753 replies and 39,687 views as of now.

Lotsa publicity for Xft. They should give you a bonus or something.

johno · Post by **johno** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:09 pm

As posted above, I think Xfit has its uses.

It's Couch who pisses me off. He is the master of "so-and-so" didn't give me credit. Which led to the Twight exit/exile, among others.
But I don't see Cooch referencing any sources for his work. Did he invent gymnastics, oly lifts, kettlebells, circuit training, sprints and timed workouts?

Contrast that approach to Pavel's, who gives credit to others.

GoDogGo! · Post by **GoDogGo!** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:14 pm

johno wrote: Contrast that approach to Pavel's, who gives credit to others.

And who looks like he practices what he preaches. Couch has a long way to go before he looks like an @fitter.

GDG!

johno · Post by **johno** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:35 pm

GoDogGo! wrote: And who looks like he practices what he preaches. Couch has a long way to go before he looks like an @fitter.

GDG!

Dawg, Pavel's deadlift is in the low 600's, IIRC.
No match for Cooch's 750+.

Andy77 · Post by **Andy77** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:49 pm

johno wrote:
GoDogGo! wrote: And who looks like he practices what he preaches. Couch has a long way to go before he looks like an @fitter.

GDG!
Dawg, Pavel's deadlift is in the low 600's, IIRC.
No match for Cooch's 750+.

Damn, Pavel has gone up 100#+ in 3 years? Pretty decent. Now if only he'd do some chain bar lifting we'd see some real progress.

Batboy2/75 · Post by **Batboy2/75** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:43 pm

GoDogGo! wrote:
johno wrote: Contrast that approach to Pavel's, who gives credit to others.
And who looks like he practices what he preaches. Couch has a long way to go before he looks like an @fitter.

GDG!

Cooch looks like he spends most of his time drinking Meister Chow and eating ding dongs with the sporatic jumbo bag of cheetos.

Johno I refuse to give @fit any credit. They have contributed nothing to general fitness knowledge. All pooch has done is repackage existing training methods, claim they were his own, and attacks anyone who questions them. I refuse to call what is commonly known as cross training be the name @fit.

BB2/75

Shafpocalypse Now · Post by **Shafpocalypse Now** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:07 pm

Pavel's not hitting more than, what, 500# right now.

What'd he do last year?

Crust Bucket · Post by **Crust Bucket** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:25 pm

Batboy2/75 wrote:Johno I refuse to give @fit any credit. They have contributed nothing to general fitness knowledge. All pooch has done is repackage existing training methods, claim they were his own, and attacks anyone who questions them. I refuse to call what is commonly known as cross training be the name @fit.

Amen

johno · Post by **johno** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:25 pm

Batboy2/75 wrote:All pooch has done is repackage existing training methods, claim they were his own, and attacks anyone who questions them.

Agreed.

To be fair, he did add a "free fitness routine" website with photos of hot exercise babes.

Batboy2/75 wrote: I refuse to call what is commonly known as cross training be the name @fit.
BB2/75

I agree in theory. But human nature demands old wine in new bottles. So, maybe Krotch does a service to those who would otherwise use worse protocols.

johno · Post by **johno** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:27 pm

Shaf wrote:Pavel's not hitting more than, what, 500# right now.

What'd he do last year?

My bad. So Krooch must have ~250 lbs. on Pavel in the deadlift.

Crust Bucket · Post by **Crust Bucket** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:30 pm

johno wrote: So Krooch must have ~250 lbs. on Pavel in the deadlift.

The only thing Cooch the pooch has that's 250lbs worth, is all the donuts in his large freezer.

GoDogGo! · Post by **GoDogGo!** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:49 pm

IIRC Pavel doesn't DL up above mid 500's- 600(?) because one elbow is seriously jacked up and he can no longer pronate that hand. Or maybe it's supinate, I can't remember.

Whichever it is, it means that he can't balance out his mixed grip by switching out his grip. This memory is about a year old, so don't quote me on it. Search DD or something. I'm too lazy.

GDG!

Schlegel · Post by **Schlegel** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:21 pm

He switched to a hook grip.

GoDogGo! · Post by **GoDogGo!** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:29 pm

Schlegel wrote:He switched to a hook grip.

He must have hellacious thumbs. Mine would fall off if I DLed more than 350 with a hook.

GDG!

bill fox · Post by **bill fox** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:45 am

GoDogGo! wrote:IIRC Pavel doesn't DL up above mid 500's- 600(?) because one elbow is seriously jacked up and he can no longer pronate that hand. Or maybe it's supinate, I can't remember.

Whichever it is, it means that he can't balance out his mixed grip by switching out his grip. This memory is about a year old, so don't quote me on it. Search DD or something. I'm too lazy.

GDG!

Actually it's a little worse then that. It's pretty hard for him to striaghten it out at all, which is obviously not great for the DL. He's doing in the high 400s at 180 or so. But I've seen him do 1 arm HLR, alternate between pressing the bulldog and kicking the shit out of the bag and other stupid human tricks, all on the same day. I'm pretty sure Couch isn't doing that stuff.

All us oldsters are jacked up, Pavel, me, Rif, and let's say Couch too ...only one needs an excuse for their condition.

GoDogGo! · Post by **GoDogGo!** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:28 am

There is no excuse. I can't lift jack for the foreseeable future, nothing above a 53 KB. So that's what I do. Rope, KB, cals, and now CB for a while.

Saw off my legs, I'll be hitting the UBE with a vengeance. Whatever it takes. Fatassness is unacceptable. But you know that already.

GDG!

Ross Hunt · Post by **Ross Hunt** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:37 am

!

What happened to you, GDG?

powerlifter54 · Post by **powerlifter54** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:48 am

40k by midnight no problem...

wonder how many crazed @fitters are pushing this number up?

GoDogGo! · Post by **GoDogGo!** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:52 am

Ross Hunt wrote:!

What happened to you, GDG?

Bah. Without entertaining the entire @fit community with my symptoms, let's just say I have a really weird vascular problem of unknown cause. Over the past year I've been poked, prodded, scoped, scanned, sampled, and cultured in ways I really didn't need to know existed. Not dangerous, by everyone's assessment. Just odd.

No one can figure it out, but high IAP definitely makes the symptoms worse. So I don't do "heavy" stuff. Thus my quickness to take up Sonnon on his offer and give CB a try; it's not like it's taking me away from SQ and DL or anything. I see another specialist in a week. I am an Enigma.

I have a recurring nightmare about not being able to do anything except grease up my nuts and start long-distance running.

GDG!

mrzero · Post by **mrzero** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:27 am

40k bitchos!

mrzero · Post by **mrzero** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:28 am

powerlifter54 wrote:wonder how many crazed @fitters are pushing this number up?

shh sour grapes from a poor perfomer.

;)

bill fox · Post by **bill fox** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:48 am

Ross Hunt · Post by **Ross Hunt** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:24 pm

GoDogGo! wrote:
Ross Hunt wrote:!

What happened to you, GDG?
Bah. Without entertaining the entire @fit community with my symptoms, let's just say I have a really weird vascular problem of unknown cause. Over the past year I've been poked, prodded, scoped, scanned, sampled, and cultured in ways I really didn't need to know existed. Not dangerous, by everyone's assessment. Just odd.

No one can figure it out, but high IAP definitely makes the symptoms worse. So I don't do "heavy" stuff. Thus my quickness to take up Sonnon on his offer and give CB a try; it's not like it's taking me away from SQ and DL or anything. I see another specialist in a week. I am an Enigma.

I have a recurring nightmare about not being able to do anything except grease up my nuts and start long-distance running.

GDG!

too bad. Accept the (grind-free) Russian Kettlebell challenge, comrade!

johno · Post by **johno** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:24 pm

powerlifter54 wrote:40k by midnight no problem...