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The Real Rant · Post by **The Real Rant** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:51 pm

Found this gem over at Power and Blubber. Discuss.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FJZOsNdbRog

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:00 pm

Rant wrote:Found this gem over at Power and Blubber. Discuss.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FJZOsNdbRog

Fuck. How do you embed a YouTube clip here?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJZOsNdbRog[/youtube]

Ripe Turd · Post by **Ripe Turd** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:05 pm

Nice way to fall over and crack your head up on something. Anyway, what's up with ''instable surface training''? Never in my life have I been standing on an instable road or an instable football field.

Anon · Post by **Anon** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:05 pm

Rant wrote:Found this gem over at Power and Blubber. Discuss.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FJZOsNdbRog

Fuck. How do you embed a YouTube clip here?

add the "www."

Holland Oates · Post by **Holland Oates** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:07 pm

Holy fuck what is the point?

I've toyed with a few unstable surface exercises and I felt too much energy was wasted on the stability aspect rather than the actual strength development.

What is the fucking point of doing 15 push ups with hands on a stability ball when you can knock off 50 on the floor and actually feel like you made some progress?

It's so much mental masturbation.

Guiseppie · Post by **Guiseppie** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:19 pm

I believe it's a constant game of one-upsmanship, except they're moving further and further into the depths of jackassery instead of, ummm, focusing on something more productive like getting stronger or more skilled at something.

Next up: Clean and jerking barbells on fire to build heat tolerance.

Sassenach · Post by **Sassenach** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:45 pm

so when do they start doing power clean and chase the barbell on the fire pit?

Hank Scorpio · Post by **Hank Scorpio** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:12 pm

I've finally figured out what XF is all about:
It's a prep course for skinny mancunts who always wanted to join the fucking circus. Nice juggling, fhagroes!

http://www.gaycircus.net/principal.asp?0=1&1=424278

Dies Irae · Post by **Dies Irae** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:27 pm

Shaf wrote:
From Tyler "Anal Ring Man" Hass' interview with Couch.

If you come to us with a four-minute mile, six months into it you are going to be 30 seconds slower but a whole hell of a lot fitter. Similarly, if you come to us with a 900-pound squat, in six months it's going to be 750 pounds, but you, too, will be much fitter. A four-minute mile and a 900-pound squat are both clear and compelling evidence of a lack of balance in your program. This doesn't reflect the limitations of our program but the inherent nature of flesh and blood. But here's the fascinating part. We can take you from a 200-pound max deadlift to a 500-750 pound max deadlift in two years while only pulling max singles four or five times a year.
So, you go from fucking WORLD CLASS (900 squat, 4 minute mile) to mediocre. And, of course we have the completely utter bullshit 750# DL statement's origins. Seriously, if @F did this, then I would be on it so fucking fast, because I struggle to 5-10# on my deadlift a year.

I wonder why they've only made this claim for the deadlift. Why not squat and bench for "max singles four or five times a year" and magically add a few hundred pounds to those as well? Obviously cultfit's imagination is the only thing holding them back from true greatness.

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:16 pm

Youngman wrote:Nice way to fall over and crack your head up on something. Anyway, what's up with ''instable surface training''? Never in my life have I been standing on an instable road or an instable football field.

Surfing, skiing, working on a crab boat in the Bering Sea, ACL repair rehab, shooting 50 cal held at hip while driving combat jet ski, trying to achieve insertion with girlfriend on Dad's ski boat in the middle of the lake.

I wish they would show the video of the outtakes.

___________ · Post by **___________** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:55 am

LOFL, click that Batman Youtube in Dies Irae's sig is the same as reading Nafod's post.
Shit, it's about the same as listening to any Cultfit apologist.

Dies Irae · Post by **Dies Irae** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:16 am

I finally looked that the indoboard clip, stupidest thing i have ever seen - no contest. How many Oly or kb coaches reccomend jerking the body around in an unstable manner during their lifts?

I realise that they've been brainwashed into following 'the hard automatically = productive" mindset, but its amazing that they can't comprehend basic safety for their practitioners. 3.38 is a perfect moment, guy doing kb swings on an indo board, almost falls onto a pile of equipment. Just remember, this is one of their official videos and an example of what they want to show the world.

Nafod, are you defending this clip or just instable training in general?

Shafpocalypse Now · Post by **Shafpocalypse Now** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:54 am

Research has show, sadly, Nafod, that unstable surface provide a uniformly weaker stimulus to the movement at hand. The CFJ once wrote about balance training, and recommended slacklines as being the "best practice" for that.

Except in a rehab context, where learning to control your limbs is important.

Almost anything below the waist is useless (see Eric Cressey for details)

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:33 am

Dies Irae wrote:Nafod, are you defending this clip or just instable training in general?

Neither. I thought it was funny. I am aware that unstable surface weight training has been looked at and discarded. However, I do athletic stuff on unstable surfaces all the time. Almost exclusively now, in fact, which goes to Youngman's post.

My wife did unstable training for ACL rehab, but that was rehab.

Holland Oates · Post by **Holland Oates** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:39 pm

Holy shit that is one of the greatest vids I've ever seen.

Sofa King · Post by **Sofa King** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:39 pm

vid?

GoDogGo! · Post by **GoDogGo!** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:47 pm

I had an @fit convo at the gym yesterday. For the last couple of days I've been seeing this skinny teen doing horrible, shallow OHSQ with a stick, plus kipping pullups.

So yesterday I was doing my remedial FSQ (it keeps my patellae aligned by balancing out the DL and SLDL), when he comes up to me. "Hey, could you show me how to do a push press jerk?"

Never mind how sad it is to ask someone doing 165# front squats for anything...

"I don't think there's any such thing. There's a push press, and a push jerk, and then there's the real Oly split jerk. Which one do you mean?"

"The one overhead."

Sigh. So I go over to his rack and show him a push press with an empty bar. Then I show him a jerk with a very shallow second dip, because I think that probably won't get him killed.
NFW am I going to show him a split jerk because I massively suck at that, have no idea of how to teach it, plus he would die and it would be on my conscience for at least half an hour.

"Got that? Okay. Now listen. If you really want to do Olympic lifts like the clean, or the jerk, or god forbid the snatch, then you need to get someone qualified to show you how to really do them. That someone is NOT me. And it sure as HELL isn't the Crossfit site."

He actually blanched at that. LOL.

Anon · Post by **Anon** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:53 pm

Maybe he meant:

"Hey, could you show me how to do a push press, jerk?"

Anon · Post by **Anon** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:01 pm

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=34788

Wrong thinking is punished, right thinking is just as swiftly rewarded. You'll find it an effective combination.

GoDogGo! · Post by **GoDogGo!** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:25 pm

Joe wrote:Maybe he meant:

"Hey, could you show me how to do a push press, jerk?"

I hadn't considered that. I should have shown him how to do a "push press fucknugget."

Anon · Post by **Anon** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:34 am

Not sure what to say, but it seems like some other/new line has been crossed. If it's not dead soldiers, what it's dead children, WTF? The death of a child is horrible, but to work it into a business model is weird.

dalexan242 · Post by **dalexan242** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:08 am

Frankly, I'm not sure why more people aren't doing one-arm barbell snatches on an indo-board. Seems pretty safe to me, I doubt there's more than a 30% chance per rep of self-decapitation.

LooseNut · Post by **LooseNut** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:01 pm

Joe wrote:Not sure what to say, but it seems like some other/new line has been crossed. If it's not dead soldiers, what it's dead children, WTF? The death of a child is horrible, but to work it into a business model is weird.

It's not just weird but an utter disgrace. They are trying to foster a sense of community but this is just exploitation. Creepy.

LooseNut · Post by **LooseNut** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:47 am

This just in...

Fruit touches wall...

News at 11...

Gary John · Post by **Gary John** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:11 pm

The following in from a P&Ber oly lifter:

I still like my WOD's named after girls:

Jianying - Snatch 100kg [you just tied a 19 year old girl, but probably lost on bodyweight because she only weighs 116 pounds]

Hongmei - C&J 140kg [you are still weaker than a 127 pound girl]

Gonghong - C&J 400 pounds [you are still weaker than a fat Chinese girl]

IGX

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