IGX

Narcissus got nothing on the Dirt Diva. Keerist, I have never seen a bigger camera hog.
Oh, and I like the "Look what @fit has done for my body" shit. As the ab dog pointed out, a post-weightloss boob job should be done a little more discreetly. Or, did @fit give her bigger boobs?

Shaf wrote:It's a moral obligation to point out the fallacies of Crossfit.

It's getting more difficult, since Glassman is allowing outside influence, like Rippetoe, to morph the program way from the metcon all the time and even from some of the relative strength and gymnastics stuff.

In a while, Crossfit will have rid itself of most of the objectionable ideas and stupid exercises (sumo deadlift high pull anyone?) and then what? This thread will have to revert to commentary on the individual crossfitters stupid things.

While I think that he's allowing influence to a degree, I think it's more of using people like Rippetoe, Burgener, etc. to give the program a look of legitamacy. All the while they (legit trainers & coaches) are just using him back for the money that @fit brings in.

I almost shit to see that fucking Bill Starr has written the latest article for the CFJ.

Why are you reading the crossfit journal? Did you pay for it and give money to the evil empire? Were you looking for items to bring to the couch thread and revel in the unsuperiority of the evil methods? Were you hoping to learn something?

Or did you get it off the website? Why were you on the website? once again, hoping to catch something maginificently retarted?

Please do not respond if you were actually perusing the site for knowledge, have subscribed to the journal, or anything of the such.

Shaf wrote:It's a moral obligation to point out the fallacies of Crossfit.

It's getting more difficult, since Glassman is allowing outside influence, like Rippetoe, to morph the program way from the metcon all the time and even from some of the relative strength and gymnastics stuff.

In a while, Crossfit will have rid itself of most of the objectionable ideas and stupid exercises (sumo deadlift high pull anyone?) and then what? This thread will have to revert to commentary on the individual crossfitters stupid things.

The problem with @fit is the short gin drink troll named Glassman and the Gen X attitudes.

They could all be super bad ass powerlifters or Oly lifters; if they acted even 1/10 as bad as the current @fit crew, I'd still give them shit.

Just posting this for the benefit of the common domain. Feel free to apply it to Wilkens or Oto posts




Anyway, Oneil, so you're saying you'd fuck this?

Nice work Rant. He is not a before or after, he is an instead of.


Picture game up while I was posting. Kill it, and grill it.

steamboatwillie! wrote:
Anyway, Oneil, so you're saying you'd fuck this?

Oneil is into hawt man on man action.
It's his thang.

The unholy union is about to begin

Originally Posted by Chris Shugart
Quick Note: I just had a great two-hour conversation with Greg Glassman. Wish it could have happened while I was preparing the article, as it would have added much to it, but good to talk to him personally regardless.

I was hoping to post much of our convo here, but we covered so many subjects that it would be impossible to pass along everything. Maybe I'll post a few topics later, as I did pick up a lot of interesting things. Or maybe Greg and I could do something in the future for the public: audio interview about what fitness really is, the CrossFit definition of it, etc. Just thinking out loud here.

For now, just wanted to let everyone know that we did talk, a little late for the article, but a good talk nonetheless.

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthrea ... post441503

Hot cinnamon anal lube? What in the unholy hell?!

cinnamon buns

Hard to fault this "Operation Pheonix" thing.

http://www.crossfit.com/

crimsonice5656 wrote:The unholy union is about to begin

Originally Posted by Chris Shugart
Quick Note: I just had a great two-hour conversation with Greg Glassman. Wish it could have happened while I was preparing the article, as it would have added much to it, but good to talk to him personally regardless.

I was hoping to post much of our convo here, but we covered so many subjects that it would be impossible to pass along everything. Maybe I'll post a few topics later, as I did pick up a lot of interesting things. Or maybe Greg and I could do something in the future for the public: audio interview about what fitness really is, the CrossFit definition of it, etc. Just thinking out loud here.

For now, just wanted to let everyone know that we did talk, a little late for the article, but a good talk nonetheless.

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthrea ... post441503

Scripted and stage managed. I called it.

ab g-d wrote:Hard to fault this "Operation Pheonix" thing.

http://www.crossfit.com/

Actually, this is just more of their reprehensible pandering to the military. I find it objectionable on a number of levels.

If the USMC lacks "functional fitness equipment," the organization needs to find a systematic method addressing this shortfall. A band-aid from a corporate entity, clearly looking to profiteer is wrong. This is obviously intended to capture more military personnel through institutionalizing their model of fitness within the military. I'm sure the vision is something like: All master fitness trainers would be compelled to go to XF certs to learn to instruct others safely on plyo boxes and c2 rowers and pukie. Gyms would be forced to be in compliance with XFs gym standard. Supply personnel would then have to buy XF approved gear from Glassman's preferred vendors. Large no-bid training, service and equipment contracts, since XF wold be the only vendor provider capable of meeting the requirements in the specifications. Service personnel wold be compelled to follow the WOD, of coarse, as they would comprise in effect a captive market.

It's a fucking Trojan Horse. It's criminal. Fuck Croxxxfit.

steamboatwillie! wrote:Just posting this for the benefit of the common domain. Feel free to apply it to Wilkens or Oto posts




Anyway, Oneil, so you're saying you'd fuck this?

I'd have to remove the hardware. Give a piece a chance!

Couch's response:

Nick Cummings,

“Research and thought”? You are exceedingly generous.

Our very public and constant claim is that fitness is best defined as work capacity across broad time and modal domains; that meaningful assertions about a program need to address safety, efficacy, and efficiency with measurable, observable, repeatable data; that constantly varied, high intensity, functional movement delivered in a competitive sporting environment has produced unprecedented work capacity across broad time and modal domains (fitness); that by incorporating a lifestyle, including diet, rest, and workout elements that cause common health and fitness metrics to move simultaneously from pathological, past “normal”, to “fit” values we introduce a third axis, age, that turns our two dimensional work capacity area under the curve to a three dimensional solid whose volume defines both health and fitness (making health a logical facet of fitness); that all of this needs to be delivered publicly where methods, results, and criticisms, are transparent and, finally, that iterations of this effort have fed an open source community where experimentation will demonstrate best practices and ultimately advance the art and science of human performance .

This is what a well thought out and researched article would have addressed. I would have loved to discuss or debate any or all of this. What I got from Chris Shugart instead was a handful of questions designed to fuel traffic-generating gossip and hatred. I declined and called instead to give him some source material for what was the journalistic thrust of his article: my personality.



Christoper Day, Phillip Garrsonq, Joe Cavazos,

CrossFit is the world leader in rhabdo prevention and awareness. It’s very likely that the overwhelming majority of people who know about rhabdo today were introduced to the subject by our committed efforts. That you’re embarrassed by Uncle Rhabdo while the community of nephrologists continues to buy T-shirts bearing his image says more about you than us.

I’m guessing that you think “Kami”, the HIV positive Sesame Street character, makes fun of AIDS and that Smokey the Bear is an inducement to torturing animals.

Admit it, gentlemen, without Uncle Rhabdo, you’d have never heard of Rhabdomyolysis.



Christopher Day,

My claims about hypertrophy are based on several decades of working in Gold’s Gyms throughout California, including the “Mecca of Bodybuilding" and comparing physiques of natural, “natural”, and steroidal bodybuilders to gymnasts and CrossFitters. That I’d have gotten spectacularly angry responses to what is quite simply my observation suggests to me that I’m correct.



Phillip Garrsonq,

Your claim that I’ve been venomous to people who object to my methods is entirely and perfectly untrue. I pay people to offer criticism and object to my methods. I’m venomous towards unethical behavior. Get the difference?

Your claim that outside of CF our cert doesn’t hold any creed flies in the face with the fact that our largest customer for cert’s is the US Military paying on public funds. We’ll do five more Mil/LEO certs before the year is out.

On the subject of CrossFit, Sir, you’re quite in the dark. Read more and post less, please.



Brandon Oto,

We’ve hired an actuarial firm with working access to insurance claim form data assessing the rhabdo risk. There’s enough written in peer reviewed literature, available on the Net, to make an irrefutable case for the claim that we don’t have but a small fraction of the rhabdo incidence rate of many popular sports and conventional mil/LEO PT. I take the subject quite seriously and we know quite a bit about the distribution of risk.



All,

Getting our competitors in the marketplace (Polliquin, Cosgrove, Boyle, Cook, …) to speak poorly of our efforts is like getting Montgomery Wards, Woolworths, and Mervyn's to speak poorly of WalMart – meaningless and obvious in motivation.

What about work capacity across broad time and modal domains? What do they have to say about that? Answwer: Nothing. What do they have to say about safety, efficacy, and efficiency buttressed by measurable, observable, repeatable data? Answer: Nothing. What is their response for our call to “evidence based fitness?” Answer: Nothing. What about our two and three-dimensional models of fitness and health? Answer: Nothing.

I know why.

Finally, I want to thank everyone here, moderators included, for your gracious support and contribution to what is the finest fitness community on earth.



Chris Shugart,

I want to repeat my offer for you to come to a seminar as my guest. Let me know when you’re coming and I’ll make sure I’m presenting. Afterward, we’ll go out and have some beers so you can get some more background for my biography. Your writing will really take-off with some research. You may even find that information changes your mind. It does mine. (Smile)



Chad Waterbury,

Welcome to CrossFit. Thank you for the kind words.



Tim Patterson (Owner of T-Nation),

You've inspired me to fund a scientific test of your supplements! Which one would you like us to check out first? This could be big for you. Can you see it..."The Truth About T-Nation". (Really big smile)

Nephrologists Uncle Rhabdo

Glasshole can talk nice when it suits him.

Charm offensive. Make nice-nice with people who can help out your business.

It is all about the money. Thankfully, his moron legions provide us with entertainment with their stupidity.

Yes, but this was most interesting:

cooch wrote:My claims about hypertrophy are based on several decades of working in Gold’s Gyms throughout California, including the “Mecca of Bodybuilding" and comparing physiques of natural, “natural”, and steroidal bodybuilders to gymnasts and CrossFitters. That I’d have gotten spectacularly angry responses to what is quite simply my observation suggests to me that I’m correct.

Worked at Gold's Gym? Someone must be able to dig that one up. Shugart is going to write the official Couch bio.
Title: "Tanqueray and Titties: How I Changed the Fitness World 750ml. at a Time"

Banned wrote:Yes, but this was most interesting:

cooch wrote:My claims about hypertrophy are based on several decades of working in Gold’s Gyms throughout California, including the “Mecca of Bodybuilding" and comparing physiques of natural, “natural”, and steroidal bodybuilders to gymnasts and CrossFitters. That I’d have gotten spectacularly angry responses to what is quite simply my observation suggests to me that I’m correct.

Worked at Gold's Gym? Someone must be able to dig that one up. Shugart is going to write the official Couch bio.
Title: "Tanqueray and Titties: How I Changed the Fitness World 750ml. at a Time"

This doesn't add up. Several decades? What was he the towel boy? He's obviously boiled as an owl again.

Tim Patterson (Owner of T-Nation),

You've inspired me to fund a scientific test of your supplements! Which one would you like us to check out first? This could be big for you. Can you see it..."The Truth About T-Nation". (Really big smile)

that's pretty fuckin' funny, tho...

Banned wrote:Yes, but this was most interesting:

cooch wrote:My claims about hypertrophy are based on several decades of working in Gold’s Gyms throughout California, including the “Mecca of Bodybuilding" and comparing physiques of natural, “natural”, and steroidal bodybuilders to gymnasts and CrossFitters. That I’d have gotten spectacularly angry responses to what is quite simply my observation suggests to me that I’m correct.

Worked at Gold's Gym? Someone must be able to dig that one up.

Not "at Gold's Gym," "in Gold's Gyms." I assume this means as a private trainer rather than staff. Good luck tracking that down unless you look for eyewitnesses.

"That I’d have gotten spectacularly angry responses to what is quite simply my observation suggests to me that I’m correct." is such a good encapsulation of absolute insanity that I want to steal it.

Our very public and constant claim is that fitness is best defined as work capacity across broad time and modal domains; that meaningful assertions about a program need to address safety, efficacy, and efficiency with measurable, observable, repeatable data; that constantly varied, high intensity, functional movement delivered in a competitive sporting environment has produced unprecedented work capacity across broad time and modal domains (fitness); that by incorporating a lifestyle, including diet, rest, and workout elements that cause common health and fitness metrics to move simultaneously from pathological, past “normal”, to “fit” values we introduce a third axis, age, that turns our two dimensional work capacity area under the curve to a three dimensional solid whose volume defines both health and fitness (making health a logical facet of fitness); that all of this needs to be delivered publicly where methods, results, and criticisms, are transparent and, finally, that iterations of this effort have fed an open source community where experimentation will demonstrate best practices and ultimately advance the art and science of human performance

Let's examine this and pull out meaningless buzzwords and catchphrases

meaningful assertions about a program need to address safety, efficacy, and efficiency with measurable, observable, repeatable data

I haven't seen any of this. I have seen myraid beginning crossfitters post about acquiring injuries on Crossfit's own forum.

cause common health and fitness metrics to move simultaneously from pathological, past “normal”, to “fit” values we introduce a third axis, age, that turns our two dimensional work capacity area under the curve to a three dimensional solid whose volume defines both health and fitness

This is such a delightfully convoluted phrase. Basically exercise + good diet + good lifestyle factors = good heath. Who didn't know this? Seriously.

ultimately advance the art and science of human performance

So far, what do we have?

1. Crossfitters do best at Crossfit WODs and benchmarks vs. non-Crossfitters (Unless you talk about Josh Everett)
2. Crossfitters win at the Crossfit-only Crossfit games (except Josh Everett)
3. Very few admitted Crossfitters in professional sports of any kind. Of course, Greg swears "there's more".
4. Popular with some LEO and some military personnel.

fitness is best defined as work capacity across broad time and modal domains

This is such a great ambiguous statement.

Unless he’s publicly berating one of his minions or having some other sort of libation induced melt down I can’t even bring myself to read his drivel. He’s the quintessential dropout trying to over compensate with 25 cent words. What the flying mother fuck is, “Work capacity across broad time and modal domains”? What is this a Star Trek re-run? The problem with @fit is that there’s too much emphasis on bullshit like “work capacity across broad time and modal domains” and not enough on lifting heavy assed weights and shuttin the fuck up. For real.

FWIW the Institute as officially renwed her crusade against @fit.

That I’d have gotten spectacularly angry responses to what is quite simply my observation suggests to me that I’m correct.

By this logic, most of the criticism against Xfit on their board should be correct as well.

I found it funny that one can mumble on about health and well-being for several paragraphy and then invite shugs to "a couple of beer". When an alvoholic says "a couple", you know it'll be a long night.