The couch thread

Gin Master · Post by **Gin Master** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:46 pm

Kraj wrote:The run-down is this:

No one will insure CrossFit, so they are starting up their own insurance company which will be separate from CrossFit, Inc. or the individual gyms, but will provide them with insurance. This new insurance company requires start-up capital, which is why Cooch is pressuring affiliates to invest in it. Each affiliates $1000 is an investment in the insurance company, with an ownership share in return.

Once the capitalization requirements are met, the insurance company will become active and CrossFit affiliates will pay monthly insurance dues to the new CrossFit insurance company.

What these tards are doing is basically investing $1000 of their money into a start-up insurance company that is bound to fail. It's not a wise investment at all. On top of that, they'll have to pay a monthly insurance premium, which few of the affiliates even know about at this point.

I mentioned this a few pages ago, before Hitler flew off the handle about thrusters.

I think Kraj Elite Fitness would be a much better venture than Kraj @F. You could advertise that you are @F certified and offer @F classes to lure that segment, but you could secure insurance under the Kraj Elite. Get your insurance via your CSCS (or whatever real cert you have). You might inquire about insuring your apparatus--rings and parallel bars if you have them--but I wouldn't go beyond that. The key here is not fucking up your clients.

I'm not a successful life coach, but I'd guess that NOT giving people rhabdo is a pretty simple goal, right?

$500K is a joke to insure this type of operation. They'd need $2M in the bank and an umbrella policy before I'd consider shitting in a paper bag for the RRG.

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Cliff's notes:

The guys are still twinks and douches, the Gaymes are already generating controversy, the original divas have gone even crazier, nobody wants to pay for a mock insurance group, Hitler hates thrusters, and Couch is still drunk.

Kraj · Post by **Kraj** » Tue May 05, 2009 10:24 pm

protobuilder wrote:Couch has made WAY more than the $500k needed to fund the RRG. Why isn't Cultfuck HQ ponying up half, or all of the $500k to protect the Empire?? Isn't The Empire worth protecting, Couch???

That's the thing. This CrossFit insurance company is bound to fail. For Cooch to invest his money in it would be ludicrous. He's passing the risk to his affiliates which, with their $1000 investments, will be the shareholders of this new company. When the company goes belly up, the shareholders (affiliates) lose their money, not Cooch.

Cooch knows that this company is good for only one thing, to protect his ass. He's duped the affiliates into paying for HIS protection. No investor in their right mind would invest $1000 into this insurance company. It's like flushing your money down the shitter. If it were a good deal there'd be investors lined up at Cooch's door looking to get in on it. In reality, though, he can't even get most of his minions to plop down the cash.

Everyone who pays up the $1000 for the RRG should ask themselves "If multi-billion dollar insurance companies who underwrite risk for a living won't touch this, why am I?"

POD · Post by **POD** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:03 pm

Kraj wrote:Everyone who pays up the $1000 for the RRG should ask themselves "If multi-billion dollar insurance companies who underwrite risk for a living won't touch this, why am I?"

We should start emailing that (and additional information) to every single affiliate owner - they all have their websites with contact info listed on them, and they haven't even banned our IP's from posting on their daily comments, so that would be good too. If each of us spent just a few minutes, we could collect a couple dozen emails, then send it out. We could easily contact 500 affiliates, and then we'd even have the email addresses on hand for later mass messages.

Trolling on the CrossFit comments and boards is retarded. If you want to change anything, take out the colonies before going after the mother country.

Holy Cow · Post by **Holy Cow** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:14 pm

Patrick Donnelly wrote:
Kraj wrote:Everyone who pays up the $1000 for the RRG should ask themselves "If multi-billion dollar insurance companies who underwrite risk for a living won't touch this, why am I?"
We should start emailing that (and additional information) to every single affiliate owner - they all have their websites with contact info listed on them, and they haven't even banned our IP's from posting on their daily comments, so that would be good too. If each of us spent just a few minutes, we could collect a couple dozen emails, then send it out. We could easily contact 500 affiliates, and then we'd even have the email addresses on hand for later mass messages.

Trolling on the CrossFit comments and boards is retarded. If you want to change anything, take out the colonies before going after the mother country.

I think it's also important to ask this question: Who gives a shit?

Mountebank · Post by **Mountebank** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:33 pm

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:Thanks for the overview.

Now, what happened with the guy that fell ill from X@ training?

Which one would that be? There are so many to choose from on the @F message board... $\:D/$

Or do you mean the one who set precedent by winning the $300k lawsuit against a @F affiliate for giving him rhabdo?
http://castawayre.blogspot.com/2008/10/ ... ainst.html

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2008
Man Awarded $300,000 in Lawsuit Against Gym and CrossFit Affiliate
Makimba Mimms, the Virginian military officer who sued a gym, a training company and one of its employees alleging he was left disabled after being put through a rigorous CrossFit regimen, has been awarded $300,000 by the jury that heard the case. The jury found all three defendants liable.

The Venerable Bogatir X · Tue May 05, 2009 11:41 pm

I am now up to speed on this most important issue of the internets. Grassyass, y'all.

POD · Post by **POD** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:08 am

Jake Patrick wrote:I think it's also important to ask this question: Who gives a shit?

Touche.

JimZipCode · Post by **JimZipCode** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:35 am

Kraj wrote:What these tards are doing is basically investing $1000 of their money into a start-up insurance company that is bound to fail. It's not a wise investment at all. On top of that, they'll have to pay a monthly insurance premium, which few of the affiliates even know about at this point.

I wonder if they lose their initial investment, if they fall behind on their monthly premium? That would be special.

Didn't Warren Buffet start out this way? Berkshire was an insurance company, and Buffet started investing the float? That would explain why mere internet losers can't comprehend the vastness of Crossfit's true aims.

Resident Quack wrote:Or do you mean the one who set precedent by winning the $300k lawsuit against a @F affiliate for giving him rhabdo?
http://castawayre.blogspot.com/2008/10/ ... ainst.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03549.html

I read somewhere that Glassman or Crossfit testified for the plaintiff, as expert witnesses on Rhabdo. Is that true?

Kraj · Post by **Kraj** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:14 am

JimZipCode wrote:I wonder if they lose their initial investment, if they fall behind on their monthly premium? That would be special.

No, it would be illegal, but it could put their affiliate status in jeopardy, since they're required to be insured at all times.

Gin Master · Post by **Gin Master** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:15 am

Patrick Donnelly wrote:Trolling on the CrossFit comments and boards is retarded. If you want to change anything, take out the colonies before going after the mother country.

You still don't get it, young padawan. Why would we want to change anything?

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:35 am

Patrick Donnelly wrote:We should start emailing...contact info listed...haven't even banned our IP's...each of us spent just a few minutes...a couple dozen emails...easily contact 500 affiliates...later mass messages.

Your new Delta Tau nickname is...SPARKY!

Mountebank · Post by **Mountebank** » Wed May 06, 2009 3:23 am

Lawyers...have a ball...legal document from the case here...
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/MakimbaPkg.pdf
Originally posted on this page...
http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/004059.html
What exactly did Glassman do, and for whom?

JamesonBushmill · Post by **JamesonBushmill** » Wed May 06, 2009 4:21 am

Resident Quack wrote:
http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/ ... hiffy.html

@F kitty-cats wrote:haha I know these two and he is a douch! Actually she is a fat girl...and he is just a steriod idiot. Good call
# posted by Shari Baby : 4:14 PM

hes not crossfit fame anymore.....now hes just an asshole.
# posted by Shari Baby : 4:15 PM

Shari BABY (40 is far from a baby)- You just think he's an idiot because he dumped you and by that logic that really makes him a genius.

I'm 120 with real tits and twice as strong as you. You're 100 with fakes and tons of botox to hold your face together.

I'd tell you to stop hatin' on me but that's what's this site is all about... so keep doing what you do best you jealous hag.
# posted by Allison : 4:55 PM

hahah watch it - who you really are is showing Allison. BTW Ill post what you wrote about an innocent 14 year old beautiful girl. Im glad he left...my life is way better without a lier in my house. :)Jealous?? Of your arm fat?? wait maybe your back fat?? Funny thing is you know nothing about me so you have to resort to this stupid stuff. I just stated facts.
# posted by Shari Baby : 5:20 PM

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Shari does have a point, Titsnyc is developing quite the bingo flaps. I guess sperm has more calories than she thought.

Barky has nerve talking about how much weight she puts up. The only things she lifts are cocks and canolis.

PC Polar Circle Person · Wed May 06, 2009 5:14 am

It's good for the soul to check out this thread once in a while.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Wed May 06, 2009 6:42 am

Reflect on the good things.

Mountebank · Post by **Mountebank** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:05 pm

HCwDB thread from above wrote:[One AlliNYC post was deleted before I got it. Damn!]
Hey Allison:

This "back and forth" not "back and fourth"

Don't correct spelling unless your post is 100% correct. Looks stewpid.

I look forward to the drama at the Games in July. I do hope you and Rogainehawk will be there.
# posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 5:41 PM

Shari - Watch it? I'm not intimidated by your threats. You should take your own advice. The things you're saying about Brendan are considered slander. You're a liar (make a note of the correct spelling of this word. You got it wrong up above).

It's really your true colors that are showing. You're 40, a mother of two, a trainer who helps the unfit become fit and are on the internet calling a healthy, strong, woman FAT. What does that say about you?

I'm not proud of my last post. I'm claiming temporary insanity. I can not believe I even responded to the same, played out hate that Shari spouts daily with more negativity. That was lame on my part.

You'd think she'd have run out of energy from all the begging she did for Brendan to take her back. Instead she's still going with her anger, jealousy and bitterness eight months later.

This back and forth (which has really been a one sided campaign against Brendan and me by Shari) is over. It's juvenile and negative and I refuse to play into it anymore. I don't get anything out of it.

I took a momentary dive down to Shari's level. Embarrassing. I'm only here to apologize for the nasty thing I said about Shari's appearance which was out of line and out of character and to check out the other HCWDBs.

No more from me, but don't worry IGX boys! I guarantee there are more false accusations about Brendan and more pathetic attempts to insult me on the way! Ms.K's immaturity will never let you down. So stay tuned for more of her posts!

There.. all better. Anonymous posters... gotta love 'em. No drama at the Games on my part. If you'll be creating some for your friend that's on you. I want no part of it. But considering that you didn't even use your real name to post I doubt you'll make any kind of scene in public.
# posted by Blogger AllisonNYC : 5:51 PM

No, no scenes in public.

I'm not an attention whore like you are.

(p.s. your statement above "I'm 120 with real tits" cannot be true. We have seen the photos of you at various weights, and your breasts do not change. Breast tissue is made up of mostly fat. Your boobs, if they were real, would have changed size with your weight gain and loss. Your trust fund or settlement from your previous employer paid for those funbags.)
# posted by Anonymous Somebody who you know in CA : 6:05 PM

POD · Post by **POD** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:24 pm

Oh, that's funny shit.

Shafpocalypse Now · Post by **Shafpocalypse Now** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:25 pm

Aw...she loves us!

I wish she'd write her fitness starfucker confessional book already.

The Ginger Beard Man · Wed May 06, 2009 1:30 pm

"don't worry IGX boys!"
Hi Barky!

PC Polar Circle Person · Wed May 06, 2009 1:38 pm

"don't worry IGX boys!"

Wow, this is really good news. I must admit that I started to worry a bit already.

Gin Master · Post by **Gin Master** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:43 pm

This is the best line.

I'm 120 with real tits and twice as strong as you. You're 100 with fakes and tons of botox to hold your face together.

For readers with no context, this had to be a wtf moment.

AFAIK, TitsNYC has some damn respectable lifts.

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:23 pm

Resident Quack wrote:Lawyers...have a ball...legal document from the case here...
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/MakimbaPkg.pdf
Originally posted on this page...
http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/004059.html
What exactly did Glassman do, and for whom?

Glassman agreed to a telephonic deposition but it's unclear from those documents if the deposition went forward and who he was testifying for. You can deduce that he agreed to testify for the Plaintiff and against the affiliate. If this is true, then Glassman knows he's got a problem with his affiliates. Yet he continues to sign up new affiliates ($$$) and allow them to wrecklessly train people under the Cultfit banner.

For what it's worth, those docs are interesting for a couple of reasons.

First, the Plaintiff's experts (and they had quite a few) came from within the military system (e.g., doctors with the Army's Walter Reed hospital, the Navy's National Naval Medical Center). That really has to chap Glassman's hide. It also explains why he's said lately that he doesn't want/need "the Army" or "the Navy" as clients; he targets the individual soldiers. He knows that, as institutions, the Army, Navy, etc won't deal with his little, untested brand of "fitness."

Also notable is that at least one of the Plaintiff's experts directly cited Cultfit's publications (authored by Glassman) where he admits (stupidly) that Cultfit is potentially lethal.

Of course, Glassman's defense is that he is right and the entire fitness industry, including medical doctors and professors, are completely wrong. This "argument" sounds even more ludicrous when the Plaintiff's experts are saying very reasonable things, such as:

Clarkson, PhD, Prof. of Kinesiology wrote:An assessment of Mr. Mimm's fitness . . . should have been made prior to the training session. . . .Because muscle damage is experienced when exercises are unaccustomed, care should have been taken to ensure that, as a novice to these exercises, Mr. Mimms did not overexert himself. . . .

She goes on to say that intensity should've been reduced, rest increased, signs of fatigue should've been observed, and good hydration practices should've been taught.

This is all reasonable advice. Training 101.

I mean, the NSCA may get some things wrong, and that's a valid point, but things like this are correct and sensible:

NSCA's Essentials of Strength Training and Conditioning, 2d ed. wrote:The training status of athletes affects the volume they will be able to tolerate . . . f the athlete is not in good physical condition, rest periods initially may need to be longer.

Gin Master · Post by **Gin Master** » Wed May 06, 2009 3:11 pm

protobuilder wrote:Of course, Glassman's defense is that he is right and the entire fitness industry, including medical doctors and professors, are completely wrong.

This is why @F is fucked. Negligence actions are based on ordinary care and reasonableness, i.e. what a reasonable person (trainer) would do under the circumstances. Plaintiffs will cite organizations like ACSM and NSCA as providing generally accepted standards. For @F to defend itself, their lawyers will have to convince a jury to disregard these establishments and buy into the drunken ravings of a gin-soaked cripple who certifies porn stars to be trainers.

Holland Oates · Post by **Holland Oates** » Wed May 06, 2009 3:34 pm

Holy shit!

Thruster Hitler made the front page of Cultfit One World and HitlerNYC gets an honorable mention in the comments.

LOL

We are like a virus. We are slowly infecting the Cultfit organism.

Gin Master · Post by **Gin Master** » Wed May 06, 2009 3:55 pm

Ed Zachary wrote:Thruster Hitler made the front page of Cultfit One World and HitlerNYC gets an honorable mention in the comments.

Freddy C (One World) is all right.

IGX

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