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I found this funny.

The facts are irrelevant, this is now a purely political issue.

dead man walking wrote:

Phaedrus wrote:

dead man walking wrote:is there any dispute that bundy owes 20 years of grazing fees?

Why do you hate the second amendment?

does the 2d amendment provide special protection to deadbeats?

No, but deadbeats particularly love it.

Turdacious wrote:The facts are irrelevant, this is now a purely political issue.

It always was. There are all kinds of deadbeats getting there property seized, and assets froze by the government it is a every day thing. It is not even news. What they are going to do with the land, and who is involved in this case makes it political to me. My bet would be that if they did not want this land they would have settled with him, for much less than he owes.

So what? The landowner gets to decide how to use the land, even if that means setting up a solar farm and making money for your cronies.

The solar project was axed last year.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/ju ... says-mark/

There is definitely some shady shit going down, but the solar thing may be a red herring.

Cliven Bundy wrote:“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro..They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy?”

Awesomeness. It's Kaz in 40 years. Now all the Fox News gurus and their Facebook army will have to backpedal. Or somehow say this was taken out of context.

So this piece of shit bundy who is subsidized by the farm bill and refuses to pay grazing right has a problem with the negro cashing a govt check?

Jonny Canuck wrote:So this piece of shit bundy who is subsidized by the farm bill and refuses to pay grazing right has a problem with the negro cashing a govt check?

Everybody likes welfare when it's for them.

T>1200 wrote:

Jonny Canuck wrote:So this piece of shit bundy who is subsidized by the farm bill and refuses to pay grazing right has a problem with the negro cashing a govt check?

Everybody likes welfare when it's for them.

He gets a "hard working man's assistance" the negroes are on welfare.

buckethead wrote:

Cliven Bundy wrote:“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro..They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy?”

Awesomeness. It's Kaz in 40 years. Now all the Fox News gurus and their Facebook army will have to backpedal. Or somehow say this was taken out of context.

I predict more stories about Putin making Obama look weak.

putin is about mickey's height.

don't we have any tall diplomats who can stand next to him and show the world putin is just a fucking midget?

What seems to be missing from this story, for me, is Cliven has been handed down land for generations and now it ends. It seems to me, he's just a sad failure. No better, and very analogous, to an inner city poor kid who makes it in professional sports and then squanders it all because of his backward as culture and ideology.

What's this, an actual video of Bundy with no politically motivated edits? Gee wiz, Bundy doesn't sound like a racist when everything is put in context.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agXns-W60MI[/youtube]

He is dead wrong about his cattle and BLM fees and land, but Bundy is far from the racist some of you want him to be. I guess it wasn't enough from some of you that Bundy just owes the Govt. money.

I also find it funny that a lot of the people railing in the officer friendly thread are giving the BLM and the feds a big fat pass because they don't like Bundy etc.. This story is about the militarization of the Federal bureaucracy and their wiliness to use force against US citizens in not just low level criminal matters, but civil ones.

But go on with your meme; Bundy is a Racist and ignore them Feds playing ninja while burning the Constitution.

That Bundy is a nutbar is not shock. Read the whole NYT interview and draw your own conclusions about his other views.

But this was about a drunk with power Bureaucracy showing up with SWAT Teams and sniper rifles to enforce a civil matter easily handled at a much lower level. There won't be any more Lon Horiuchis taking out wives and children with a sniper rifle, tanks shooting depleted uranium rounds at farmhouses, or Ninja suit wearing feds kicking in kids second floor bedroom windows without pushback.

This is not a good development and will not end well. For either side.

Batboy2/75 wrote:What's this, an actual video of Bundy with no politically motivated edits? Gee wiz, Bundy doesn't sound like a racist when everything is put in context.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agXns-W60MI[/youtube]

He is dead wrong about his cattle and BLM fees and land, but Bundy is far from the racist some of you want him to be. I guess it wasn't enough from some of you that Bundy just owes the Govt. money.

Golly Wilickers you're right. He sounds like Gandhi now.

buckethead wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:What's this, an actual video of Bundy with no politically motivated edits? Gee wiz, Bundy doesn't sound like a racist when everything is put in context.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agXns-W60MI[/youtube]

He is dead wrong about his cattle and BLM fees and land, but Bundy is far from the racist some of you want him to be. I guess it wasn't enough from some of you that Bundy just owes the Govt. money.

Golly Wilickers you're right. He sounds like Gandhi now.

At least he doesn't drink his own piss.

Bob Wildes wrote: At least he doesn't drink his own piss.

Rhabdo?

buckethead wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:What's this, an actual video of Bundy with no politically motivated edits? Gee wiz, Bundy doesn't sound like a racist when everything is put in context.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agXns-W60MI[/youtube]

He is dead wrong about his cattle and BLM fees and land, but Bundy is far from the racist some of you want him to be. I guess it wasn't enough from some of you that Bundy just owes the Govt. money.

Golly Wilickers you're right. He sounds like Gandhi now.

His comments weren't racist enough to be like Gandhi.

buckethead wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:What's this, an actual video of Bundy with no politically motivated edits? Gee wiz, Bundy doesn't sound like a racist when everything is put in context.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agXns-W60MI[/youtube]

He is dead wrong about his cattle and BLM fees and land, but Bundy is far from the racist some of you want him to be. I guess it wasn't enough from some of you that Bundy just owes the Govt. money.

Golly Wilickers you're right. He sounds like Gandhi now.

And you sound like a dupe that got pawned by the press.

buckethead wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:What's this, an actual video of Bundy with no politically motivated edits? Gee wiz, Bundy doesn't sound like a racist when everything is put in context.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agXns-W60MI[/youtube]

He is dead wrong about his cattle and BLM fees and land, but Bundy is far from the racist some of you want him to be. I guess it wasn't enough from some of you that Bundy just owes the Govt. money.

Golly Wilickers you're right. He sounds like Gandhi now.

:snigger

T>1200 wrote:

Jonny Canuck wrote:So this piece of shit bundy who is subsidized by the farm bill and refuses to pay grazing right has a problem with the negro cashing a govt check?

Everybody likes welfare when it's for them.

For Lefties, welfare is for people who sit on their asses and don't produce anything but welfare babies. Welfare to people who produce stuff is an anathema.

it's not anathema, i believe it is a matter of acknowledging that "welfare" is widely available, including to the prosperous as well as the poor.

who deserves help more--the hardworking guy or the woman and child stuck in a bad spot? how is the culture of dependence among the urban poor different from the of dependence in the midwest farm community?

Most Lefties identify more with deadbeats than with workers. Especially crusty old workers who own land, ride horses, and fly the US flag. That smacks of too much tradition & independence, especially if guns are worn. Lefties favor dependents who grovel and are subservient*.



*However, Lefties admire uppityness in the destruction of US tradition, capitalism, individualism, or adulthood.