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dead man walking wrote:

Shafpocalypse Now wrote:

Bartek Czernikiewicz supposedly passed away

did he vaporize and disappear into the ether, did he die?

euphemisms on irongarm are like anal sex in a nunnery

Was it Rhabdo? Or was it equipment related?

The gofundme has the "died doing what he loved" so I am going with he was doing something incredibly dangerous = rhabdo.

What is Glassman's death toll to date?

Rhabdo is not instantly fatal. Google says he died during a workout.

Hold the fuck on. This doesn't make any goddamn sense. How in the fuck do you run an Ironman Tri...I assume since it's an "Ironman" then it's the what, 2+ mile swim, 100+ bike ride, and marathon, then later on die during XFit workout? We need some details here. Certainly I could see dying from a broken heart with all those sexy XFit bitches walking around in that hot ass yoga shit like I'm wearing right now as I type this with a huge boner.

don't some number of endurance and other athletes just drop dead, often as a result of a congenital defect that randomly decides to kick in?

as for the boner shape, i thought, by your own admission, "tiny" was the proper modifier. have you discovered the magic elixir?

dead man walking wrote:don't some number of endurance and other athletes just drop dead, often as a result of a congenital defect that randomly decides to kick in?

That's what I was thinking. I don't like Crossfit, but people die unexpectedly during all sorts of intense athletic endeavours.

E2>200 wrote:

dead man walking wrote:don't some number of endurance and other athletes just drop dead, often as a result of a congenital defect that randomly decides to kick in?

That's what I was thinking. I don't like Crossfit, but people die unexpectedly during all sorts of intense athletic endeavours.

People die all the time, Terry. So that isn't really helpful.

It's a rate question and it seems a whole hell of a lot of dudes have cashed it in during/because of Crossfit.

That's why I asked what Glassman's death toll is...

If you think you're about to score some 'back and forth' with me, Blueshirt, you've got another thing coming.

Yes, Blueshirt was my second greatest creation.

Right behind "Tom Furman".

In her four appearances at the Games, Julie Foucher has never finished outside of the top five. This year and last, she was favored to win.

However, that run may have ended today when she injured her Achilles tendon during the box jump overs of Event 3. Leading her heat, Foucher jumped down from the box before she paused, and looked behind herself as though she’d been struck.

“It sounds like I probably have a partial Achilles tear,” she said after the event. “I literally thought someone had, like, dropped a barbell on my foot, that’s why I looked behind me. Like, I thought something rolled on my foot.”

She added: "I know it's the last time I'm going to be out there so I want to just do as much as I can."

Three hours after the injury, Foucher returned to the competition floor to attempt the 250-foot handstand walk and max-effort snatch with her foot in a clunky black boot. Even though she had to walk to the starting line as the other athletes ran, she managed to finish the handstand walk in 2:17.1 for 11th place and soon after muscle-snatched 85 lb.

“It felt great just to go back out there,” she said. “(To) do my best. The support of everyone, the crowd, it was amazing. I’m so grateful for that.”

http://games.crossfit.com/article/centr ... port-day-2
http://www.sportingnews.com/sport/story ... lking-boot

Goes back out to snatch a max with a freshly torn Achilles in a boot?

Jesus, it's a workout, not Point du Hoc.

Foucher is currently a medical student at the Cleveland Clinic, where she plans to be a physician.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Foucher

I wonder if she's in the Orthopaedic program.

bennyonesix wrote:Yes, Blueshirt was my second greatest creation.

Right behind "Tom Furman".

:gasp

HOW DID THAT IRONMAN TRIATHLETE DIE!?!?!?

Even in terms of @Fit, I think about "Death During Training" in the same way that I think of "Deaths Caused By Pit Bulls."

There are a lot of folks out there who participate in intense training regimens.

There are a lot of folks out there who interact with Pit Bulls.

Often times anymore, when somebody dies whilst exercising hard, either training for high school sports, or running a marathon, or doing @Fit or whatever, the death becomes sensationalized in the media.

Often times anymore, when somebody dies because they got attacked by a pit bull, the death becomes sensationalized in the media.

These two unrelated things share one thing in-common- they're hot issues to talk about right now. So such deaths get a lot of press.

But I'm certain that if we looked at the number of people who are out there training hard and compared it with the number of deaths per year, the number of deaths wouldn't look in any way impressive, at all.

And I'd venture to guess that it'd be the same with the number of people who interact with pit bulls every day, versus the number of deaths caused by these dogs.

It's hype in my opinion, plain and simple, and nothing more than that.

You can train @Fit, or train for Iron Man races and do them, or do @Fit and Iron Man races and whatever else you like. Get a yearly physical, to make sure your body and your ticker are in good working order, eat well, rest well, and be happy living life, and you'll probably be fine. This is the case for the vast majority of folks out there.

Testiclaw wrote:Goes back out to snatch a max with a freshly torn Achilles in a boot?

Jesus, it's a workout, not Point du Hoc.

Thinking about this, she is pretty hot so I am ok with what she did.

Kenny X wrote:Even in terms of @Fit, I think about "Death During Training" in the same way that I think of "Deaths Caused By Pit Bulls."

There are a lot of folks out there who participate in intense training regimens.

There are a lot of folks out there who interact with Pit Bulls.

Often times anymore, when somebody dies whilst exercising hard, either training for high school sports, or running a marathon, or doing @Fit or whatever, the death becomes sensationalized in the media.

Often times anymore, when somebody dies because they got attacked by a pit bull, the death becomes sensationalized in the media.

These two unrelated things share one thing in-common- they're hot issues to talk about right now. So such deaths get a lot of press.

But I'm certain that if we looked at the number of people who are out there training hard and compared it with the number of deaths per year, the number of deaths wouldn't look in any way impressive, at all.

And I'd venture to guess that it'd be the same with the number of people who interact with pit bulls every day, versus the number of deaths caused by these dogs.

It's hype in my opinion, plain and simple, and nothing more than that.

You can train @Fit, or train for Iron Man races and do them, or do @Fit and Iron Man races and whatever else you like. Get a yearly physical, to make sure your body and your ticker are in good working order, eat well, rest well, and be happy living life, and you'll probably be fine. This is the case for the vast majority of folks out there.

You buried the lede, these deaths are/were easily avoidable and unnecessary.

All deaths are necessary, and none of them are unavoidable.

Kenny X wrote:Even in terms of @Fit, I think about "Death During Training" in the same way that I think of "Deaths Caused By Pit Bulls."

There are a lot of folks out there who participate in intense training regimens.

There are a lot of folks out there who interact with Pit Bulls.

Often times anymore, when somebody dies whilst exercising hard, either training for high school sports, or running a marathon, or doing @Fit or whatever, the death becomes sensationalized in the media.

Often times anymore, when somebody dies because they got attacked by a pit bull, the death becomes sensationalized in the media.

These two unrelated things share one thing in-common- they're hot issues to talk about right now. So such deaths get a lot of press.

But I'm certain that if we looked at the number of people who are out there training hard and compared it with the number of deaths per year, the number of deaths wouldn't look in any way impressive, at all.

And I'd venture to guess that it'd be the same with the number of people who interact with pit bulls every day, versus the number of deaths caused by these dogs.

It's hype in my opinion, plain and simple, and nothing more than that.

You can train @Fit, or train for Iron Man races and do them, or do @Fit and Iron Man races and whatever else you like. Get a yearly physical, to make sure your body and your ticker are in good working order, eat well, rest well, and be happy living life, and you'll probably be fine. This is the case for the vast majority of folks out there.

The distinction I think you're failing to make is, to use your analogy, between keeping an ordinary pitbull that's been raised and trained responsibly, and keeping a pitbull that's been raised improperly; neglected or trained as an attack dog. Even the sweetest-natured dog, no matter how well-trained, is still an animal and is still capable of attacking a human if its buttons are pushed. In that case it's either bad luck or, often, the human's fault for not recognizing the dog's signals. But if you raise a pitbull improperly, and it bites someone -- well, that's not bad luck, it's an accident waiting to happen.

Likewise, you're absolutely correct that any one of us could get hurt doing even the most benign exercise. You hear all the time about the seemingly-healthy dude who drops dead on the treadmill or exercise bike. I'm thinking most recently of David Goldberg, Sheryl Sandberg's husband. Or, hell, the only acute injury I've ever suffered lifting weights wasn't on a max, it was on a bullshit warmup weight, and I got sloppy. Like I said, sometimes you get unlucky, and sometimes you fuck up.

But then there are the people that get hurt or die exercising in an objectively irresponsible fashion. You get the high school football players who die doing two-a-days in August because their coach thinks water is for pussies. You get the shitty personal trainers who push their previously-sedentary, middle-aged fatloss clients to do box jumps. Or I'm sure you've seen that video of the woman with the chronic joint laxity issue -- she locks out the leg press and suddenly her legs are folding backwards.

Or, you know, Crossfit.

Bud Charniga's grape ape wrote:

Kenny X wrote:Even in terms of @Fit, I think about "Death During Training" in the same way that I think of "Deaths Caused By Pit Bulls."

There are a lot of folks out there who participate in intense training regimens.

There are a lot of folks out there who interact with Pit Bulls.

Often times anymore, when somebody dies whilst exercising hard, either training for high school sports, or running a marathon, or doing @Fit or whatever, the death becomes sensationalized in the media.

Often times anymore, when somebody dies because they got attacked by a pit bull, the death becomes sensationalized in the media.

These two unrelated things share one thing in-common- they're hot issues to talk about right now. So such deaths get a lot of press.

But I'm certain that if we looked at the number of people who are out there training hard and compared it with the number of deaths per year, the number of deaths wouldn't look in any way impressive, at all.

And I'd venture to guess that it'd be the same with the number of people who interact with pit bulls every day, versus the number of deaths caused by these dogs.

It's hype in my opinion, plain and simple, and nothing more than that.

You can train @Fit, or train for Iron Man races and do them, or do @Fit and Iron Man races and whatever else you like. Get a yearly physical, to make sure your body and your ticker are in good working order, eat well, rest well, and be happy living life, and you'll probably be fine. This is the case for the vast majority of folks out there.

The distinction I think you're failing to make is, to use your analogy, between keeping an ordinary pitbull that's been raised and trained responsibly, and keeping a pitbull that's been raised improperly; neglected or trained as an attack dog. Even the sweetest-natured dog, no matter how well-trained, is still an animal and is still capable of attacking a human if its buttons are pushed. In that case it's either bad luck or, often, the human's fault for not recognizing the dog's signals. But if you raise a pitbull improperly, and it bites someone -- well, that's not bad luck, it's an accident waiting to happen.

Likewise, you're absolutely correct that any one of us could get hurt doing even the most benign exercise. You hear all the time about the seemingly-healthy dude who drops dead on the treadmill or exercise bike. I'm thinking most recently of David Goldberg, Sheryl Sandberg's husband. Or, hell, the only acute injury I've ever suffered lifting weights wasn't on a max, it was on a bullshit warmup weight, and I got sloppy. Like I said, sometimes you get unlucky, and sometimes you fuck up.

But then there are the people that get hurt or die exercising in an objectively irresponsible fashion. You get the high school football players who die doing two-a-days in August because their coach thinks water is for pussies. You get the shitty personal trainers who push their previously-sedentary, middle-aged fatloss clients to do box jumps. Or I'm sure you've seen that video of the woman with the chronic joint laxity issue -- she locks out the leg press and suddenly her legs are folding backwards.

Or, you know, Crossfit.

I will admit that I do have an inherent tendency to factor-out certain variables when thinking about stuff like that, yeah. And I see your point.

All the well meaning reasonableness in the world cannot change the fact...


Crossfit Cripples People For Money.


There's plenty of blame to go around in gen pop S&C (remember the boxing for aging white guys craze of 15 years ago?, head injury much?)...that said, NO ONE, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, turns a more deliberate blind eye to irresponsible teaching and bad practices as CFHQ

Blaidd Drwg wrote:All the well meaning reasonableness in the world cannot change the fact...


Crossfit Cripples People For Money.


There's plenty of blame to go around in gen pop S&C (remember the boxing for aging white guys craze of 15 years ago?, head injury much?)...that said, NO ONE, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, turns a more deliberate blind eye to irresponsible teaching and bad practices as CFHQ

Appreciated. But let's be honest- Couch himself posited that if you were askeered of getting your neck broke doing muscle-ups, or dying of Teh Rhabdo, @Fit doesn't want you. And the motherfuckers who pay for the privilege of doing these ill-conceived workouts loved it! It was a badge of honor (and in many ways still is).

I don't want to be the asshole, here, and say "Well fuck, if they want to go to the gym, or an event, and nominate themselves for a Darwin Award, let them!" But God damn it, it's hard not to sometimes.

Blaidd Drwg wrote:
There's plenty of blame to go around in gen pop S&C (remember the boxing for aging white guys craze of 15 years ago?, head injury much?)...that said, NO ONE, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, turns a more deliberate blind eye to irresponsible teaching and bad practices as CFHQ

Crazy talk. They are the industry leaders in rhabdo education!

Blaidd Drwg wrote:All the well meaning reasonableness in the world cannot change the fact...


Crossfit Cripples People For Money.


There's plenty of blame to go around in gen pop S&C (remember the boxing for aging white guys craze of 15 years ago?, head injury much?)...that said, NO ONE, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, turns a more deliberate blind eye to irresponsible teaching and bad practices as CFHQ

Holy Shit that is right on bottom line shit right there. All the hoo-rah get some you're just a pussy BS distracts from the

irresponsible teaching and bad practices

.

Take away the bad practices and no one would get crippled no matter how hardcore tactical they were during workouts.

It's text book "depraved heart murder" to me.

A corporation can't commit murder.

And it's the affiliates fault, not HQ's.