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milosz wrote:

Shafpocalypse Now wrote:No your comment about single payer magically being better.

It's not magically better, throughout the first world single-payer systems simply deliver better outcomes at a lower cost.

I mean, there is a counter-argument there (we're not a first-world state anymore) but no one political ventures there.

In a homogenous country anything works. If you think Sweden of 15 years ago couldn't have made a US style healthcare system work you are silly. Just wait til all that diversity starts accessing the single payer syste. Lolo.

What does heterogeneity matter? "Too big" and "not homogeneous" get thrown around but never with a logical case to follow.

If by heterogeneous you mean we have a high GINI coefficient - which is a problem - that's entirely different from basically saying "nope, too many coloreds."

milosz wrote:What does heterogeneity matter? "Too big" and "not homogeneous" get thrown around but never with a logical case to follow.

If by heterogeneous you mean we have a high GINI coefficient - which is a problem - that's entirely different from basically saying "nope, too many coloreds."

Culture is a thing. Cultural diversity means low trust and social friction. Look at Tokyo vs NYC. Look at Sweden pre and post arab immigration.

Oh, "culture" rather than "darkies," sure.

Canada, for one, is a single-payer state with a more diverse population than the US, ethnically and culturally.
Spain - while all roughly the same skin tone, I think the Basques and Catalans would like to discuss shared culture with you
UK - lol
Most mainland European states are actually quite culturally diverse, if all the same shade of pale or light brown. Bavarians and Prussians? Not so keen on each other historically. The Flemish and Walloons? Possibly more divided than American 'coastal elites' and 'heartland patriots' culturally. Italy? Barely even a nation-state. Hell, a country as tiny as Switzerland has culturally French, German and Italian regions. Switzerland is the size of a couple of our smaller states combined.

Note, all of those states pay less for healthcare for superior outcomes.

So yeah, this argument is bullshit.

milosz wrote:Oh, "culture" rather than "darkies," sure.

Canada, for one, is a single-payer state with a more diverse population than the US, ethnically and culturally.
Spain - while all roughly the same skin tone, I think the Basques and Catalans would like to discuss shared culture with you
UK - lol
Most mainland European states are actually quite culturally diverse, if all the same shade of pale or light brown. Bavarians and Prussians? Not so keen on each other historically. The Flemish and Walloons? Possibly more divided than American 'coastal elites' and 'heartland patriots' culturally. Italy? Barely even a nation-state. Hell, a country as tiny as Switzerland has culturally French, German and Italian regions. Switzerland is the size of a couple of our smaller states combined.

Note, all of those states pay less for healthcare for superior outcomes.

So yeah, this argument is bullshit.

This is some goddamned epic shit tier obfuscation and you can go fuck yourself you lying cunt.

Canada is diverse? Spain is diverse? Switzerland is diverse?

Bavarians and Prussians?

What is it like to lie like this? Do you get a thrill from it?

JAPAN IS DIVERSE THE JOMON AND AINU!!!

You said culture. You meant 'ethnicity,' really. That was the point.

But yeah, Canada is both more culturally and ethnically diverse than the US.

milosz wrote:Oh, "culture" rather than "darkies," sure.

Canada, for one, is a single-payer state with a more diverse population than the US, ethnically and culturally.
Spain - while all roughly the same skin tone, I think the Basques and Catalans would like to discuss shared culture with you
UK - lol
Most mainland European states are actually quite culturally diverse, if all the same shade of pale or light brown. Bavarians and Prussians? Not so keen on each other historically. The Flemish and Walloons? Possibly more divided than American 'coastal elites' and 'heartland patriots' culturally. Italy? Barely even a nation-state. Hell, a country as tiny as Switzerland has culturally French, German and Italian regions. Switzerland is the size of a couple of our smaller states combined.

Note, all of those states pay less for healthcare for superior outcomes.

So yeah, this argument is bullshit.

All of them also have reasonably competent health care bureaucracies. We don't and, as the Obamacare experience has proven, our healthcare bureaucracies are remarkably resistant to change.