Bonkers UFO stories in the New York Times
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Bonkers UFO stories in the New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/p ... -navy.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/p ... -reid.html
Some other reporters today said, paraphrasing “The Pentagon has never treated UFO stories with anything other than derision, this reflects a huge change.”
They’re describing stuff that’s pretty hard to explain, including recovered materials.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/p ... -reid.html
Some other reporters today said, paraphrasing “The Pentagon has never treated UFO stories with anything other than derision, this reflects a huge change.”
They’re describing stuff that’s pretty hard to explain, including recovered materials.
One of the downsides of the Internet is that it allows like-minded people to form communities, and sometimes those communities are stupid.
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Never heard about them through my naval aviation chain. Bummer.
I remember we all got super-excited when we picked up a Mach 2 mover on radar way out very the Atlantic one time. Turned out to be the Concorde, which was still cool.
I remember we all got super-excited when we picked up a Mach 2 mover on radar way out very the Atlantic one time. Turned out to be the Concorde, which was still cool.
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I have to believe that there is still a lot of black money chasing this info. I hope we're not "backward" on this
“Internationally, we are the most backward country in the world on this issue,” Mr. Bigelow said in an interview. “Our scientists are scared of being ostracized, and our media is scared of the stigma. China and Russia are much more open and work on this with huge organizations within their countries. Smaller countries like Belgium, France, England and South American countries like Chile are more open, too.
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Re: Bonkers UFO stories in the New York Times
Does the article talk about the one they found in Amish country?


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UFOs are an interesting phenomenon. The number of sightings is too high to dismiss it as fantasy or delusion. And the fact that it is dismissed outright by every official organisation makes you wonder. Russell UFO incident alone is strange enough to deny there was something going on. Carey's books Witness to Rosswell and The Children of Rosswell are an interesting read.
There are a lot of commonalities between UFOs and cults, religious movements, demons, angels, ghosts, cryptid sightings, and psychic phenomena, and lately some researchers - Jacques Vallee and Robbie Graham, for example, have shifted their focus away from extra-terrestrial explanations of UFOs.
There are a lot of commonalities between UFOs and cults, religious movements, demons, angels, ghosts, cryptid sightings, and psychic phenomena, and lately some researchers - Jacques Vallee and Robbie Graham, for example, have shifted their focus away from extra-terrestrial explanations of UFOs.

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I don't know, I would expect now that everyone has a digital camera and camcorder attached to their hands, we would be seeing a lot more video and reports of UFO's not fewer.
One thing I know for sure, is that no species intelligent enough for interstellar travel is coming to Earth just to stick a probe up someone's ass.
One thing I know for sure, is that no species intelligent enough for interstellar travel is coming to Earth just to stick a probe up someone's ass.
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The truth is out there........
You`ll toughen up.Unless you have a serious medical condition commonly refered to as
"being a pussy".
"being a pussy".
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Here's my rough hierarchy of shit that is likely
1. Pilots are collectively lying or have had visual hallucinations owing to all the suggestion of UFO culture...
2. Actual physical UFO's are explainable, like a clandestine test of a Lockhead MKV that was stumbled upon by some pilots, just as a for instance
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3. Alien beings have either 1) traveled faster than the speed of light to get here or 2)have waited for millions of years for this window of human existence on earth only to fly around in the sky at Mach 4 just beyond our ability to communicate with them.
It's possible but it doesnt make any sense. Come talk to us or dont be seen at all, why the shenanigans?
1. Pilots are collectively lying or have had visual hallucinations owing to all the suggestion of UFO culture...
2. Actual physical UFO's are explainable, like a clandestine test of a Lockhead MKV that was stumbled upon by some pilots, just as a for instance
..
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3. Alien beings have either 1) traveled faster than the speed of light to get here or 2)have waited for millions of years for this window of human existence on earth only to fly around in the sky at Mach 4 just beyond our ability to communicate with them.
It's possible but it doesnt make any sense. Come talk to us or dont be seen at all, why the shenanigans?
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And how come they only abduct farmers for their sexual explorations?theoverman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:06 pm Here's my rough hierarchy of shit that is likely
1. Pilots are collectively lying or have had visual hallucinations owing to all the suggestion of UFO culture...
2. Actual physical UFO's are explainable, like a clandestine test of a Lockhead MKV that was stumbled upon by some pilots, just as a for instance
..
3. Alien beings have either 1) traveled faster than the speed of light to get here or 2)have waited for millions of years for this window of human existence on earth only to fly around in the sky at Mach 4 just beyond our ability to communicate with them.
It's possible but it doesnt make any sense. Come talk to us or dont be seen at all, why the shenanigans?
I choose Door #4, I just don't know what happened. A little mystery in our lives is fun, though.
Don’t believe everything you think.
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As far as "talk to us" is concerned, amebae, for example, don't seem to try communicate with us much, yet we don't question their existence.theoverman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:06 pm Here's my rough hierarchy of shit that is likely
1. Pilots are collectively lying or have had visual hallucinations owing to all the suggestion of UFO culture...
2. Actual physical UFO's are explainable, like a clandestine test of a Lockhead MKV that was stumbled upon by some pilots, just as a for instance
..
..
..
..
3. Alien beings have either 1) traveled faster than the speed of light to get here or 2)have waited for millions of years for this window of human existence on earth only to fly around in the sky at Mach 4 just beyond our ability to communicate with them.
It's possible but it doesnt make any sense. Come talk to us or dont be seen at all, why the shenanigans?
Being humans we tend to explain things at the level of our current knowledge and the ability to understand things. Entangled particles moving in the opposite direction close to the speed of light are the example of something (information?) moving faster than the light. As I mentioned earlier, some researchers move away from the extra-terrestrial explanations of UFO. It's a really big topic to put down in a few lines though.
