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Herv100 wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:40 pm Old man Biden called a lid again today, like most days the last month. Dude has sundowners and needs high dose adderal to even speak, and he still gaffes constantly. Couldn’t remember Kim Jong Un or Mitt Romney’s name. Like Joe Rogan said. Choosing Biden for President is like taking a flashlight with dying batteries for a long walk in the wood at night.
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Herv100 wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:34 pm ...hidden camera videos of Hunter IN CHINA...
Hunter? So what?
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Herv100 wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:16 pm
lasalle wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:46 pm No one on this board is going to convince anyone else to vote for someone other than their guy. That said, this obsession with Hunter Biden amuses me to no end. Let's apply the same journalistic/evidentiary standards you're using and apply them to Trump. How about:
-a "gift" of $10M in cash from Egypt to Trump
-Trump's bank account in China
-Trump's tax records and dodgy deductions for himself and his family
-The fuck ton of money owed by Trump, Inc to foreign governments, including Russia
-Trump jamming through a $25B no bid deal to Gingrich and other cronies

etc., etc. All all of that is 'fake news', but somehow Hunter Biden will herald the end of democracy? Hunter Biden is trading off dad's name-no doubt-but let's look at Trump's kids.

Anyway, all of this is shouting into the well.
Showing the Biden’s are blackmailable is just icing on the cake. Biden is worse in nearly every way and every issue. Look at the 2nd Amendment alone. Vote Biden if you want to be relegated to lever actions and revolvers, 1800’s technology, like a chump.
OK-I'll bite. How is Biden worse on every issue?

Let's set aside the 2nd amendment. I personally don't think the founding fathers envisioned that Leroy from East Ass, Michigan would need an Uzi, so you and I will never see eye to eye there.

I think the planet is melting, and that more coal and gas is not the way forward. Maybe I'm biased because I'm in CA which is in the process of burning to the ground, but how is Trump going to do anything but deny and drill?

Taxes: Trump has run up RECORD deficits. And you can't blame it on COVID, because he was already there by January 2020.

Maybe Trump is less of a war monger? I'll give you that one.

What else is keeping you up at night about Biden? I'm legit asking, because we as a country don't get to have dialogue with the "other side", and I'd welcome your perspective.

For what it's worth, I think Biden is 10 kinds of mediocre, but candidly I'd vote for a cadaver before I'd want to see another 4 years of Trump and his cronies.

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lasalle wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:15 am For what it's worth, I think Biden is 10 kinds of mediocre, but candidly I'd vote for a cadaver before I'd want to see another 4 years of Trump and his cronies.
Based on recent performance that’s what you might be doing when you cast your ballot.
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lasalle wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:15 am
Herv100 wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:16 pm
lasalle wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:46 pm No one on this board is going to convince anyone else to vote for someone other than their guy. That said, this obsession with Hunter Biden amuses me to no end. Let's apply the same journalistic/evidentiary standards you're using and apply them to Trump. How about:
-a "gift" of $10M in cash from Egypt to Trump
-Trump's bank account in China
-Trump's tax records and dodgy deductions for himself and his family
-The fuck ton of money owed by Trump, Inc to foreign governments, including Russia
-Trump jamming through a $25B no bid deal to Gingrich and other cronies

etc., etc. All all of that is 'fake news', but somehow Hunter Biden will herald the end of democracy? Hunter Biden is trading off dad's name-no doubt-but let's look at Trump's kids.

Anyway, all of this is shouting into the well.
Showing the Biden’s are blackmailable is just icing on the cake. Biden is worse in nearly every way and every issue. Look at the 2nd Amendment alone. Vote Biden if you want to be relegated to lever actions and revolvers, 1800’s technology, like a chump.
OK-I'll bite. How is Biden worse on every issue?

Let's set aside the 2nd amendment. I personally don't think the founding fathers envisioned that Leroy from East Ass, Michigan would need an Uzi, so you and I will never see eye to eye there.

I think the planet is melting, and that more coal and gas is not the way forward. Maybe I'm biased because I'm in CA which is in the process of burning to the ground, but how is Trump going to do anything but deny and drill?

Taxes: Trump has run up RECORD deficits. And you can't blame it on COVID, because he was already there by January 2020.

Maybe Trump is less of a war monger? I'll give you that one.

What else is keeping you up at night about Biden? I'm legit asking, because we as a country don't get to have dialogue with the "other side", and I'd welcome your perspective.

For what it's worth, I think Biden is 10 kinds of mediocre, but candidly I'd vote for a cadaver before I'd want to see another 4 years of Trump and his cronies.
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lasalle wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:15 am
Herv100 wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:16 pm
lasalle wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:46 pm No one on this board is going to convince anyone else to vote for someone other than their guy. That said, this obsession with Hunter Biden amuses me to no end. Let's apply the same journalistic/evidentiary standards you're using and apply them to Trump. How about:
-a "gift" of $10M in cash from Egypt to Trump
-Trump's bank account in China
-Trump's tax records and dodgy deductions for himself and his family
-The fuck ton of money owed by Trump, Inc to foreign governments, including Russia
-Trump jamming through a $25B no bid deal to Gingrich and other cronies

etc., etc. All all of that is 'fake news', but somehow Hunter Biden will herald the end of democracy? Hunter Biden is trading off dad's name-no doubt-but let's look at Trump's kids.

Anyway, all of this is shouting into the well.
Showing the Biden’s are blackmailable is just icing on the cake. Biden is worse in nearly every way and every issue. Look at the 2nd Amendment alone. Vote Biden if you want to be relegated to lever actions and revolvers, 1800’s technology, like a chump.
OK-I'll bite. How is Biden worse on every issue?

Let's set aside the 2nd amendment. I personally don't think the founding fathers envisioned that Leroy from East Ass, Michigan would need an Uzi, so you and I will never see eye to eye there.

I think the planet is melting, and that more coal and gas is not the way forward. Maybe I'm biased because I'm in CA which is in the process of burning to the ground, but how is Trump going to do anything but deny and drill?

Taxes: Trump has run up RECORD deficits. And you can't blame it on COVID, because he was already there by January 2020.

Maybe Trump is less of a war monger? I'll give you that one.

What else is keeping you up at night about Biden? I'm legit asking, because we as a country don't get to have dialogue with the "other side", and I'd welcome your perspective.

For what it's worth, I think Biden is 10 kinds of mediocre, but candidly I'd vote for a cadaver before I'd want to see another 4 years of Trump and his cronies.
I'll offer a few of things that go to world view of the men and their parties.

One of my biggest fears is the unaccountable bureaucratic state. I think a broader more powerful bureaucracy is an essential feature of Democrat party governance. Dems, especially the leftier dems, love love loves regulations. One of our Orange Lord's greatest accomplishments has been eliminating tens of thousands of regulations.

I think in almost every way (unless related to abortion and LBTQ...) Democrat governance is bad for individual liberties. I saw a quote recently that resonates with me, "Progressives love the people, but they hate individuals". A Biden presidency with a Dem house and senate scares the shit out of me as it relates to individual freedoms and the ability to have a small business unmolested by the state.

Lastly, I think the leftmost 1/2 of the Democrat party pretty much despises liberal America as we've lived it, especially flyover America, and I don't want them in any position to make policy. More inspired by Rousseau and Marx than Locke and Madison if you will.

As a man Donny is a bit of a mess, but in leading the country he's been directionally very satisfactory.

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Democrat governance is bad for individual liberties.
And yet it has been the Dems who have pushed for minority rights (starting some time after the Civil war), women's rights, and LGBTQRFGXYZ rights.
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nafod wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:09 pm
Democrat governance is bad for individual liberties.
And yet it has been the Dems who have pushed for minority rights (starting some time after the Civil war), women's rights, and LGBTQRFGXYZ rights.
I definitely give the Democrat party substantial credit for many important advancements in modern group rights, including what you listed plus workers rights, child labor laws, and our social safety net. They initiated many wonderful things.

Yet, something is very awry in the Democrat party right now. 1/2 of the party leadership (including corporate media, academia, the tech oligarchy, and the arts) embraces oppression towards, and the personal destruction of, individuals and groups opposed to their collectivist ends.

Frankly, I think Dems have a good chance of winning the house, senate, and presidency. That's a nightmare for me but some of you could soon be very pleased.

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lasalle wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:15 am Maybe Trump is less of a war monger? I'll give you that one.
It's more than a bit insane that you reel off really important things like "no war" as if they're afterthoughts. Is that really just some throwaway to you?
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Leftists spray children with mace at a “Jews for Trump” rally in NYC

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nafod wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:55 pm
Herv100 wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:34 pm ...hidden camera videos of Hunter IN CHINA...
Hunter? So what?
The "so what" with regard to Hunter is simple: it reveals that Joe Biden conducts pay for play operations using his family as bag men, and that Big Data, the mainstream media, all or most of both political parties, major corporations, academia, banks, etc. conspire to dictate to the American people what information is available to them.

Matt Taibbi writes about it here:

With the Hunter Biden Expose, Suppression is a Bigger Scandal Than The Actual Story
Unprecedented efforts to squelch information about a New York Post story may prove to be more dangerous corruption than whatever Hunter Biden did with a crooked Ukrainian energy company


https://taibbi.substack.com/p/with-the- ... ession-136
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Fat Cat wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:35 pm
nafod wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:55 pm
Herv100 wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:34 pm ...hidden camera videos of Hunter IN CHINA...
Hunter? So what?
The "so what" with regard to Hunter is simple: it reveals that Joe Biden conducts pay for play operations using his family as bag men, and that Big Data, the mainstream media, all or most of both political parties, major corporations, academia, banks, etc. conspire to dictate to the American people what information is available to them.

Matt Taibbi writes about it here:

With the Hunter Biden Expose, Suppression is a Bigger Scandal Than The Actual Story
Unprecedented efforts to squelch information about a New York Post story may prove to be more dangerous corruption than whatever Hunter Biden did with a crooked Ukrainian energy company


https://taibbi.substack.com/p/with-the- ... ession-136
Thanks for posting that as I couldn’t find it anywhere without subscribing. And Taibbi is very liberal. The censorship is a huge problem. It will come for a every group eventually if not stopped.
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lasalle wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:15 am
Herv100 wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:16 pm
lasalle wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:46 pm No one on this board is going to convince anyone else to vote for someone other than their guy. That said, this obsession with Hunter Biden amuses me to no end. Let's apply the same journalistic/evidentiary standards you're using and apply them to Trump. How about:
-a "gift" of $10M in cash from Egypt to Trump
-Trump's bank account in China
-Trump's tax records and dodgy deductions for himself and his family
-The fuck ton of money owed by Trump, Inc to foreign governments, including Russia
-Trump jamming through a $25B no bid deal to Gingrich and other cronies

etc., etc. All all of that is 'fake news', but somehow Hunter Biden will herald the end of democracy? Hunter Biden is trading off dad's name-no doubt-but let's look at Trump's kids.

Anyway, all of this is shouting into the well.
Showing the Biden’s are blackmailable is just icing on the cake. Biden is worse in nearly every way and every issue. Look at the 2nd Amendment alone. Vote Biden if you want to be relegated to lever actions and revolvers, 1800’s technology, like a chump.
OK-I'll bite. How is Biden worse on every issue?

Let's set aside the 2nd amendment. I personally don't think the founding fathers envisioned that Leroy from East Ass, Michigan would need an Uzi, so you and I will never see eye to eye there.

I think the planet is melting, and that more coal and gas is not the way forward. Maybe I'm biased because I'm in CA which is in the process of burning to the ground, but how is Trump going to do anything but deny and drill?

Taxes: Trump has run up RECORD deficits. And you can't blame it on COVID, because he was already there by January 2020.

Maybe Trump is less of a war monger? I'll give you that one.

What else is keeping you up at night about Biden? I'm legit asking, because we as a country don't get to have dialogue with the "other side", and I'd welcome your perspective.

For what it's worth, I think Biden is 10 kinds of mediocre, but candidly I'd vote for a cadaver before I'd want to see another 4 years of Trump and his cronies.
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I like Trump’s approach to space, forward leaning on getting back to the moon and supporting New Space. Hope Uncle Joe will keep Bridenstine on, he’s doing good work.

Regarding Biden, holding back the Biden trove when all of this stuff was known back in 2019 was stupid. WSJ is no liberal rag. But they do have standards of evidence.

Trump has called “birther” too many times, he’s reaping what he sowed with the media blocking him out. No trust of good faith.
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Awww shucks. Here's a phone conversation between Joe Biden and President Poroshenko, two weeks after the 2016 election, with JB trying to protect his own assets:



Hear it in his own words.
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In one of the more Orwellian headlines from a year full of them: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... formation/

"We must treat the Hunter Biden leaks as if they were a foreign intelligence operation — even if they probably aren’t." -Washington Post

Yes, democracy dies in darkness, but please ignore the facts coming out about the Biden family, even though it's real, because it doesn't suit the Left narrative the media is pushing.

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The business partner of Biden Inc(the name that lefty Politico gave them) is being interviewed for the entire hour of Tucker tonight. I’m sure bombs will be dropped.
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LOL at citing OAN
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nafod wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:39 pm LOL at citing OAN
I cited the Washington Post you shiftless layabout!
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Biden today. Dudes a mess

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Progressives love the people, but they hate individuals
Describes USSR I grew up in in the 1970s. Everything for the people, and you are expected to sacrifice everything personal for the better good of the society. The Soviets pushed this line with force, the progressives trick various groups into supporting them
- and then using force on everyone else to keep the line going.

I agree with Taleb here, democracy is not the rule of the majority, it's the rule of a vocal minority.
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Russia wasn't a democracy then. It's not now, either. Democracy doesn't seem to get along with Russians. They like their authoritarians.

There are plenty of European countries that are democratic and progressive.
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Interesting time in Philly. Video in the article shows the shooting. Seems legit to me.

From NY Post
At least 30 Philadelphia cops were injured by early Tuesday as violent mobs torched squad cars and charged lines of officers in a night of carnage sparked by the police shooting of a knife-wielding man.

Organized protests gathered at a park chanting “black lives matter” soon after news broke of the 4 p.m. death of 27-year-old Walter Wallace, who was shot by police after refusing to drop a knife.

Hundreds of people then swamped the streets, leading to at least 33 arrests by the early hours Tuesday on charges including rioting, assault on police officers, looting and possession of firearms, ABC News said.

The carnage was caught in a series of disturbing videos on social media, including a speeding black truck that ran through a line of officers, hitting a 56-year-old female sergeant. She remained hospitalized with a broken leg and other injuries, NBC Philadelphia said.
Does this send suburban white wymyn into the arms of hair sniffing Joe or Donny? It's an essential and tight state. Seems like anything could tip it.


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Yesterday Donny did 3 major rallies in PA that each took about 90 minutes. I saw parts of 2 of them (on Fox). He was on fire. Then before bed he watched his new supreme court justice given the oath. He had a big big day. Donny is doing everything he can to win.

Yesterday Joe did.....what did he do? Looks like a lot of nothing again. I don't think there's been a candidate in my lifetime who spent less time campaigning than Joe. And when he's out and about, there's not much going on, and what is going on is boring.

Joe is all in on the prevent defense. Maybe that's all he can physically and mentally muster. According to polls it's been working throughout most of the game. Interested to see if it works in the last two minutes when Brady has the ball.

Very interested to see how these campaigns are dissected when it's over.

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