Gorbachev wrote:Targeting someone for a violent attack based on ethnicity or sexual preference or religion is deserving of special punishment in a civil society. It is an attack on the cohesion of and freedoms in that society. It is an attack on us all.
If you murder someone in a fit of rage or jealousy, or you suffered domestic abuse for years and snapped, then your sentence is likely to reflect that human reality. Likewise, if you chose to go out and harm "a gay / black / Muslim / Jew/ Romany" you deserve particular loathing and are guilty of extremely anti-social, pernicious behaviour. You deserve what you get for that "hate crime". Fucking spot on. You're a complete faggot if you don't agree with me 1,000,000 per cent.
Norway's pretty civilized, right? Anders Behring Brevik murdered 77 people in Norway for reasons that he himself said were "anti-islamic", "anti-communist", and other things. He was sentenced to 21 years in prison. Do you know how much extra time he got as special punishment because his murders fit your definition of a hate crime?
Also, I say this with peace and love but your use of faggot is contemptible. Homosexuals are a very oppressed group and they rightfully consider that word the equivalent of n _ _ _ _ r. It's vile use made me feel uncomfortable, and I'm sure all the gay power bears and those who service them on this forum probably feel a bit threatened. Hate speech should never get a free pass in a civil society so I had to say something about it.
Mao wrote:Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party
What Gorby should understand, unless he's to young to remember that his nation was the bastion for controling it's citizens and tossing mouthy ones away in Siberia is that hate crimes open a window up for oppression in times of "emergency".
"God forbid we tell the savages to go fuck themselves." Batboy
DARTH wrote:What Gorby should understand, unless he's to young to remember that his nation was the bastion for controling it's citizens and tossing mouthy ones away in Siberia is that hate crimes open a window up for oppression in times of "emergency".
I don't remember oppressive regimes ever needing precedents to begin acting like fucktards. Why, then, is the "slippery slope" always used when trying to make some point?
BucketHead wrote:
I don't remember oppressive regimes ever needing precedents to begin acting like fucktards. Why, then, is the "slippery slope" always used when trying to make some point?
What Gorby should understand, unless he's to young to remember that his nation was the bastion for controling it's citizens and tossing mouthy ones away in Siberia is that hate crimes open a window up for oppression in times of "emergency".
Um... no. If we want a slippery slope argument, we're already primed - paramilitary police who are above our law and literally have laws written just to protect them; "free speech zones" to control protest and thought; government infiltration and ratfucking of dissidents.
The reality is, of course, that none of this matters if a strongman in a time of crisis gets the military and police on his side. No slippery slope needed.
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DARTH wrote:What Gorby should understand, unless he's to young to remember that his nation was the bastion for controling it's citizens and tossing mouthy ones away in Siberia is that hate crimes open a window up for oppression in times of "emergency".
First of all - Siberia best place on Earth.
Second - Gorby not russian as i understand. I think he is from that country wich invent racism, genocide, concentration camps and other progressive things. England i mean.
Gorbachev wrote:Targeting someone for a violent attack based on ethnicity or sexual preference or religion is deserving of special punishment in a civil society. It is an attack on the cohesion of and freedoms in that society. It is an attack on us all.
If you murder someone in a fit of rage or jealousy, or you suffered domestic abuse for years and snapped, then your sentence is likely to reflect that human reality. Likewise, if you chose to go out and harm "a gay / black / Muslim / Jew/ Romany" you deserve particular loathing and are guilty of extremely anti-social, pernicious behaviour. You deserve what you get for that "hate crime". Fucking spot on. You're a complete faggot if you don't agree with me 1,000,000 per cent.
Norway's pretty civilized, right? Anders Behring Brevik murdered 77 people in Norway for reasons that he himself said were "anti-islamic", "anti-communist", and other things. He was sentenced to 21 years in prison. Do you know how much extra time he got as special punishment because his murders fit your definition of a hate crime?
Also, I say this with peace and love but your use of faggot is contemptible. Homosexuals are a very oppressed group and they rightfully consider that word the equivalent of n _ _ _ _ r. It's vile use made me feel uncomfortable, and I'm sure all the gay power bears and those who service them on this forum probably feel a bit threatened. Hate speech should never get a free pass in a civil society so I had to say something about it.
It's ok because I didn't mean "all gay people" I meant "bad gay people". I have like, really gay friends and have lived in extremely gay neighbourhoods (I'm talking REALLY FUCKING GAY, OK?) and gays are way more vicious about the bad gays and bad faggot culture than your powdered hetero ass would ever tolerate. You don't know SHIT about faggotry. Get out of the FREE SPEECH FORUM, you fucking fucker.
DARTH wrote:What Gorby should understand, unless he's to young to remember that his nation was the bastion for controling it's citizens and tossing mouthy ones away in Siberia is that hate crimes open a window up for oppression in times of "emergency".
You're either a comic genius or one of the most stupid people to ever work out how to use the internet.
Gorbachev wrote:Targeting someone for a violent attack based on ethnicity or sexual preference or religion is deserving of special punishment in a civil society. It is an attack on the cohesion of and freedoms in that society. It is an attack on us all.
If you murder someone in a fit of rage or jealousy, or you suffered domestic abuse for years and snapped, then your sentence is likely to reflect that human reality. Likewise, if you chose to go out and harm "a gay / black / Muslim / Jew/ Romany" you deserve particular loathing and are guilty of extremely anti-social, pernicious behaviour. You deserve what you get for that "hate crime". Fucking spot on. You're a complete faggot if you don't agree with me 1,000,000 per cent.
Norway's pretty civilized, right? Anders Behring Brevik murdered 77 people in Norway for reasons that he himself said were "anti-islamic", "anti-communist", and other things. He was sentenced to 21 years in prison. Do you know how much extra time he got as special punishment because his murders fit your definition of a hate crime?
Also, I say this with peace and love but your use of faggot is contemptible. Homosexuals are a very oppressed group and they rightfully consider that word the equivalent of n _ _ _ _ r. It's vile use made me feel uncomfortable, and I'm sure all the gay power bears and those who service them on this forum probably feel a bit threatened. Hate speech should never get a free pass in a civil society so I had to say something about it.
It's ok because I didn't mean "all gay people" I meant "bad gay people". I have like, really gay friends and have lived in extremely gay neighbourhoods (I'm talking REALLY FUCKING GAY, OK?) and gays are way more vicious about the bad gays and bad faggot culture than your powdered hetero ass would ever tolerate. You don't know SHIT about faggotry. Get out of the FREE SPEECH FORUM, you fucking fucker.
Gorby, "faggot" is not the preferred nomenclature. "Pillow Biter," please.
Don't be a weasel with your words - you want statistics that "hate crime legislation" is used for crimes on white males. Just say that.
Actually, why don't you suck my fucking cock. That way your cum guzzler will stop trying to put words in my mouth. Alright, cock jockey?
I would love to see the statistics of how many members of all races are charged with "hate crimes", under both Federal and each State's statutes, what those crimes consisted of (Murder or Painting a Swastika as Graffiti). I would wager all my worldly possessions that most of those charged were white or latino males.
Btw White includes Latino and Arab apparently. It's interesting that the hate crime rate is skewed so heavily in the opposite direction from the ACTUAL crime rate.
