The couch thread

[mr. snrub]

No mention of the Tranny of the Day?

[RPC]

No mention of the Tranny of the Day?

Holy crap and they're all gushing over Eva on the comments:

Woah, Eva's looking mighty fierce in that pic. Will she compete this year?????

Just when you think it's not possible: Eva gets even more beautiful.

Eva is just flat out BEAUTIFUL!!

they need some good tranny comments...

[The Real Rant]

No mention of the Tranny of the Day?

I received several tips from reliable insiders that…uh…”supplementation”…is now fairly widespread among the CF glitterati. The pressure to maintain the image and keep performing is proving too much for things like the Zone, fish oil supplements and a day off every 3 days. Couch is either too drunk to notice or too drunk to care. Either way he’s drunk.

[Pinky]

The latest rumor is that Eva has impregnated AllisonNYC.

[RPC]

No mention of the Tranny of the Day?

I received several tips from reliable insiders that…uh…”supplementation”…is now fairly widespread among the CF glitterati. The pressure to maintain the image and keep performing is proving too much for things like the Zone, fish oil supplements and a day off every 3 days. Couch is either too drunk to notice or too drunk to care. Either way he’s drunk.

To even think that you'd juice to stay up on the mainpage is hilarious. Are they that desparate for a better time on a freaking workout? Couch already was busted promoting this NFL player ( http://games.crossfit.com/athletes/athl ... bourn.html ) who was clearly outted from the league for using.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

http://games.crossfit.com/athletes/

Go through this and pick out the enhanced.

Honestly, it's not hard to do.

Incidentally, this is berserko with the sponsors and shit. Close to big time. I can see the Crossfit steamroller comin' right at me.

[mr. snrub]

http://games.crossfit.com/athletes/be-a ... fraid.html

An exchange between Couch and "Dave from Chatanooga Crossfit". Notice how quickly the ass-kissery and apologism comes out; also shows Couch's view on steroids a bit...seems that as long as no one's caught, he doesn't care:

Not impressed, sorry.

"Chiefs lineman Welbourn suspended for steroids"

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/s ... id=2150559

To quote Rippetoe: "There are no shortcuts."

Hope he's clean now.
By Afraid of What?!? on May 25, 2008 11:25 AM

Afraid of What?!? aka David Stout of CrossFit Chatanooga,

I don't want to be the one to break this to you, but, nearly everyone in the NFL, certainly every one who plays in John's position, is engaged in exogenous hormonal therapy.

The testing for banned substances is not a zero tolerance deal, but for each banned substance there is an upper limit that is tolerated beyond which there's trouble.

Elite cyclists, football players, body builders, throwers, sprinters, ...ALL on steroids. This cannot be rationally denied.

It is mistaken perception that the ones "caught" are cheaters and the others "clean". The ones caught have erred in dosage, masking, or metabolized abnormally slow the outlawed substances. They are more unlucky than anything else. These athletes are no more cheaters than stepping out of bounds accidentally on the one yard line before crossing the goal line is cheating.

The best reading I've seen on steroid use was written by Malcolm Gladwell (Yeah, the author of "Blink"). You owe it to yourself and the Chatanooga affiliate to school yourself on the subject!

BTW, If you're thinking that Mark Rippetoe has a different take on this or shares your misapprehension and condemnation of athletes taking steroids, then you don't know the man as well as I do.



By Coach on May 25, 2008 6:07 PM

Here's the Gladwell piece:

http://www.malcolmgladwell.com/2001/200 ... a_drug.htm
By Coach on May 25, 2008 6:31 PM

Coach –

In retrospect I think I could have certainly posted more clearly/intelligently my thoughts, opinions, and knowledge on the subject. In thinking on it some more, the topic is certainly served better through discussion than the remark I left.

Points taken to heart and apologies for the curt comment.

Speaking of exogenous hormonal therapy, maybe I was a bit hormonal myself (pun intended). I hope you can forgive.

Maybe we can discuss more sometime face to face.

Have a safe holiday,

David
CF Chattanooga
By David @ CF Chatt on May 26, 2008 7:45 AM

[The Real Rant]

Exogenous hormonal therapy? Oh brother.

[Anon]

Damn IP addresses - They need a cert on masking your IP. Good thing he did not mention the limp.

[The Real Rant]

No mention of the Tranny of the Day?

I received several tips from reliable insiders that…uh…”supplementation”…is now fairly widespread among the CF glitterati. The pressure to maintain the image and keep performing is proving too much for things like the Zone, fish oil supplements and a day off every 3 days. Couch is either too drunk to notice or too drunk to care. Either way he’s drunk.

To even think that you'd juice to stay up on the mainpage is hilarious. Are they that desparate for a better time on a freaking workout? Couch already was busted promoting this NFL player ( http://games.crossfit.com/athletes/athl ... bourn.html ) who was clearly outted from the league for using.

The look is essential for CF affiliate success. Make no mistake about it. It’s really only about the look. The results are tertiary as can witnessed by the average male CF dead of about 325 pounds. I was benching this much in high school…for reps. What all CFers are ultimately gunning for is a slightly bulkier and less effete looking male GQ model build and yes this includes the women. Couch is the only one that gets a pass on this. I was developing a rapport with this one and was unceremoniously cut off after asking about the role of "exogenous hormonal therapy" about 3 months ago. This is this is the proverbial white elephant in the CF parlor

[Dalp]

So now Rippetoe is okay with steroids?

[RPC]

Damn IP addresses - They need a cert on masking your IP. Good thing he did not mention the limp.

Yep.. By by affilation retard...

Prolly better for the dumb bastard in the long run anyways...

[The Real Rant]

So now Rippetoe is okay with steroids?

Why wouldn't he be?

[Grandpa's Spells]

The look is essential for CF affiliate success. Make no mistake about it. It’s really only about the look. The results are tertiary as can witnessed by the average male CF dead of about 325 pounds.

Exactly.

[Sofa King]

The GWF has long been a fan of "exogenous hormone therapy." Didn't he once say that the best way to build muscle mass was to do @fit with steroids? It's somewhere on the site.
See, he's not a hypocrite after all.

BTW, I am shocked to see Greg Everett stand up as an individual. It was only a matter of time.
I've heard from insiders that he cannot stand some of the big Mainpage apologists.

[___________]

Is there a present that would help the alchie couch consider suicide?
I bet we could get some funds raised for that shit.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

Rippetoe threw a fit over on Strength Mill one time about a Starting Strength + steroids question, that's why.

[ledfistaco]

http://games.crossfit.com/athletes/be-a ... fraid.html

An exchange between Couch and "Dave from Chatanooga Crossfit". Notice how quickly the ass-kissery and apologism comes out; also shows Couch's view on steroids a bit...seems that as long as no one's caught, he doesn't care:

Not impressed, sorry.

"Chiefs lineman Welbourn suspended for steroids"

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/s ... id=2150559

To quote Rippetoe: "There are no shortcuts."

Hope he's clean now.
By Afraid of What?!? on May 25, 2008 11:25 AM

Afraid of What?!? aka David Stout of CrossFit Chatanooga,

I don't want to be the one to break this to you, but, nearly everyone in the NFL, certainly every one who plays in John's position, is engaged in exogenous hormonal therapy.

...


By Coach on May 25, 2008 6:07 PM

Here's the Gladwell piece:

http://www.malcolmgladwell.com/2001/200 ... a_drug.htm
By Coach on May 25, 2008 6:31 PM

Coach –

In retrospect I think I could have certainly posted more clearly/intelligently my thoughts, opinions, and knowledge on the subject. In thinking on it some more, the topic is certainly served better through discussion than the remark I left.

Points taken to heart and apologies for the curt comment.

Speaking of exogenous hormonal therapy, maybe I was a bit hormonal myself (pun intended). I hope you can forgive.

Maybe we can discuss more sometime face to face.

Have a safe holiday,

David
CF Chattanooga
By David @ CF Chatt on May 26, 2008 7:45 AM

Adds an onlooker:

I think its best left alone now. We dont want the board to be filled with hostility. We are or should be all part of the same big family with a love and a passion for CrossFit. Of course people have the right to have their say, but not here folks!
By Julie on May 29, 2008 4:36 AM

Yep, no dissent in the temple.

[The Real Rant]

Rippetoe threw a fit over on Strength Mill one time about a Starting Strength + steroids question, that's why.

Those days are over.

[Dalp]

Rippetoe threw a fit over on Strength Mill one time about a Starting Strength + steroids question, that's why.

Those days are over.

Meaning Rippetoe said so himself, or we believe things that couch says?

[RPC]

Rippetoe threw a fit over on Strength Mill one time about a Starting Strength + steroids question, that's why.

Those days are over.

Meaning Rippetoe said so himself, or we believe things that couch says?

Who knows bro. Head over to Strength Mill and see if he's willing to post anything contradictory to Couch .

[mr. snrub]

That's one thing I don't get. Rip vehemently advocates NOT using reps above 3 in any of the olympic lifts (power versions included) because of form breakdown...and Crossfit serves to be one of the best examples of that. Don't think he's been asked that question over on StrengthMill yet.

[Sofa King]

Here's the official word on @fit and "hormone therapy."

If you train the WODs hard, and eat right and get lots of sleep, you will definitely gain lean mass, lose fat, and yes, you can build muscle mass with the crossfit protocol. More specifically, according to Coach,
Here is a hierarchy of training for mass from greater to lesser efficacy:
1. Bodybuilding on steroids
2. CrossFitting on steroids
3. CrossFitting without steroids
4. Bodybuilding without steroids
The bodybuilding model is designed around, requires, steroids for significant hypertrophy.
The neuroendocrine response of bodybuilding protocols is so blunted that without "exogenous hormonal therapy" little happens.
The CrossFit protocol is designed to elicit a substantial neuroendocrine whollop and hence packs an anabolic punch that puts on impressive amounts of muscle though that is not our concern. Strength is.
Natural bodybuilders (the natural ones that are not on steroids) never approach the mass that our ahtletes do. They don't come close.
Those athletes who train for function end up with better form than those who value form over function. This is one of the beautiful ironies of training.

Anyone else enjoying this as much as me?

[The Real Rant]

Rippetoe threw a fit over on Strength Mill one time about a Starting Strength + steroids question, that's why.

Those days are over.

Meaning Rippetoe said so himself, or we believe things that couch says?

Meaning that nowadays juice is standard fare in the strength business, the sports business or the body image business. I don't get why these guys keep pretending that it isn't or worse faking outrage about it. What bothers me are people that don’t have the balls to be forth right about it. Guys like Louie Simmons and Ernie Frantz have been straight up about it for years and I respect them for it. This nonsense reminds me of when I was a kid and everyone pretended they didn’t jerk off when in fact everyone was jerking off all the time. There are plenty of high profile CFers that use. Rippetoe trains people that use and he knows about it. These people are only bullshitting themselves because they can’t reconcile what their doing to get their edge. I couldn’t either so I don’t go that route but if I was in that business, at my age, with my injuries, I don’t see why I wouldn’t. I don’t see how I couldn’t. You know what? Fuck it anyway. It’s just business.

[The Real Rant]

Here's the official word on @fit and "hormone therapy."

If you train the WODs hard, and eat right and get lots of sleep, you will definitely gain lean mass, lose fat, and yes, you can build muscle mass with the crossfit protocol. More specifically, according to Coach,
Here is a hierarchy of training for mass from greater to lesser efficacy:
1. Bodybuilding on steroids
2. CrossFitting on steroids
3. CrossFitting without steroids
4. Bodybuilding without steroids
The bodybuilding model is designed around, requires, steroids for significant hypertrophy.
The neuroendocrine response of bodybuilding protocols is so blunted that without "exogenous hormonal therapy" little happens.
The CrossFit protocol is designed to elicit a substantial neuroendocrine whollop and hence packs an anabolic punch that puts on impressive amounts of muscle though that is not our concern. Strength is.
Natural bodybuilders (the natural ones that are not on steroids) never approach the mass that our ahtletes do. They don't come close.
Those athletes who train for function end up with better form than those who value form over function. This is one of the beautiful ironies of training.

Anyone else enjoying this as much as me?

Yes.