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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417978,00.asp
But some useful stuff did come out of that process. For example, one r/findbostonbombers subreddit thread was devoted to identifying the precise locations where Monday's bombs went off to reference against other available photographic evidence. Redditors contributing to that effort wound up doing a great job of pinpointing ground zero in the two explosions.
When the FBI did release some images of the alleged bombers, their hard work paid off. It was immediately possible to cross-reference other photos showing the explosion sites to see if either of the two suspects appeared nearby. In fact, one photo surfaced that appeared to show Dzhokhar Tsarnaev standing, with a backpack at his feet, right where the second bomb went off.
After the suspects' photos were released, Redditors ID'd the baseball caps the alleged bombers were wearing within minutes. They also helped circulate a pair of previously unknown photos that appeared to show the two men. One, taken by marathon runner David Green of people fleeing west towards Boston's Fairfield Street away from the explosions, shows a man who appears to be Dzhokhar Tsarnaev—probably the clearest image of him available for several hours on Thursday before the authorities released more photos.
If you're going to question whether Redditors were out of line to speculate about a theory that proved to be wrong, you might also want to ask about the implications of it being right.
And this is what baffles me the most about the fashionable hostility towards Reddit seeping up through the establishment media floor right now. The FBI, in this very case, specifically asked the public to pass on tips, "no matter how small." Redditors pitching in on this effort have been doing just that and better—the way the site functions works as a filter for the clearly dumb theories and demonstrably false tips, while pushing the most plausible and useful ones to the forefront (the New York Post and others picking up on already-debunked Reddit speculation can't be laid at the feet of Redditors).
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Dorks unite. Its true, we have developed new skills in this last decade that seem mainly for entertainment, but they are very useful indeed.
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Don't worry proto, its a link to a blueberry farm.
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Don't worry proto, its a link to a blueberry farm.
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http://www.ibtimes.com/4chan-false-flag ... ay-1202073The item in question was posted at 6:42 p.m. EDT Monday, within hours of the attacks, along with a well-known press photo of the one of the explosion sites, and it lays out a detailed series of predictions about how the federal investigation into the attacks will proceed, and what the anonymous poster believes will happen once it concludes.
The poster, who claims to work "on a security commission," provides specifics about whom he the thinks authorities will arrest, writing that "they're going to try to pin this event on a male late teens to early 20s and say he did it because he's unstable," and that "they won't find the suspect til later this week and the raid is supposed to occur on Friday."
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Most people that age are mentally unfit for inclusion in society. That's why we have team sports, military service and whorehouses, putting the young to use."they're going to try to pin this event on a male late teens to early 20s and say he did it because he's unstable," and that "they won't find the suspect til later this week and the raid is supposed to occur on Friday."
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Let's get some information from a credible source.
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That still doesn't prove they were even close to the mark. Ground zero, baseball cap ID are pretty inconsequential in the grand scheme of an FBI investigation. One that they don't seem pivotal in--and really I could argue that by drawing attention to the guys they did they were COUNTER productive.Blaidd Drwg wrote:http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417978,00.asp
But some useful stuff did come out of that process. For example, one r/findbostonbombers subreddit thread was devoted to identifying the precise locations where Monday's bombs went off to reference against other available photographic evidence. Redditors contributing to that effort wound up doing a great job of pinpointing ground zero in the two explosions.
When the FBI did release some images of the alleged bombers, their hard work paid off. It was immediately possible to cross-reference other photos showing the explosion sites to see if either of the two suspects appeared nearby. In fact, one photo surfaced that appeared to show Dzhokhar Tsarnaev standing, with a backpack at his feet, right where the second bomb went off.
After the suspects' photos were released, Redditors ID'd the baseball caps the alleged bombers were wearing within minutes. They also helped circulate a pair of previously unknown photos that appeared to show the two men. One, taken by marathon runner David Green of people fleeing west towards Boston's Fairfield Street away from the explosions, shows a man who appears to be Dzhokhar Tsarnaev—probably the clearest image of him available for several hours on Thursday before the authorities released more photos.
If you're going to question whether Redditors were out of line to speculate about a theory that proved to be wrong, you might also want to ask about the implications of it being right.
And this is what baffles me the most about the fashionable hostility towards Reddit seeping up through the establishment media floor right now. The FBI, in this very case, specifically asked the public to pass on tips, "no matter how small." Redditors pitching in on this effort have been doing just that and better—the way the site functions works as a filter for the clearly dumb theories and demonstrably false tips, while pushing the most plausible and useful ones to the forefront (the New York Post and others picking up on already-debunked Reddit speculation can't be laid at the feet of Redditors).
I'm not trying to be a twat or "fashionably hostile" either because if I think about it I don't fully disagree with you. Here, they weren't really on the mark, but if it was a local PD investigation only I could very well be singing a different tune. Overall, I just think the signal to noise at those places is high and not because it's Reddit but because it's an open forum on the internet.
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I don't trust them necessarily but I am impressed with the quality of information even when it comes out of cesspool. Signal to noise is the same in the media..probably worse.
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The media is full of a bunch of fucktards. The fact that information trickled down from Reddit/4Chan into the media as breaking news (e.g. New York Post posting pictures of "suspects" that were NOT suspects) is just further proof of that if anyone ever needed it.Blaidd Drwg wrote:I don't trust them necessarily but I am impressed with the quality of information even when it comes out of cesspool. Signal to noise is the same in the media..probably worse.
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Oops, he was innocent - somebody set the guy up by copying a catchphrase that the guy frequently used.Blaidd Drwg wrote:More of same...
http://www.gormogons.com/2013/04/boston ... s-you.html
Evidently, a bunch of folks on Reddit got to discussing some of the various photographs of the Boston Marathon crowd, and began to see some suspicious similarities and odd behaviors in a few people in the crowd. They took their stab at some amateur sleuthing, and began to circle candidates and draw lines to interesting aspects. Before long, the best of the photos were posted up to 4Chan, and the armchair analysts made a fair case that more than a couple of folks need to be checked out.
Of course, the respectable news services—when they weren’t making spurious announcements that the bitter, lone wolf, white, domestic, right-wing extremist behind this was arrested and on his way to jail—decided this whole Reddit/4Chan thing was a load of laughable crap and cautioned people not to take any of this seriously.
Yeah. Well, know who did take it seriously? The FBI and other law enforcement agencies who reviewed the 4Chan photos and found that at least one of their subjects exactly matched up with a guy they were zeroing in on from a Lord & Taylor surveillance camera. And the quality of the photos was good enough to base an APB on.
Truly it is a matter of time, even mere days.
As if that weren’t enough, you probably heard that some whackjob sent some ricin-filled letters to a US Senator and the President of the United States. A third letter was intercepted by the FBI on its way to an unidentified Mississippi individual. Not many leads, unfortunately, so the FBI revealed the contents of the letter to the public, hoping someone could identify the author by his signature of “KC.” Every letter contained the phrase “To see a wrong and not expose it, is to become a silent partner to its continuance,” followed by “I am KC and I approve this message.”
Not quite as stymied, a blogger decided to try something that is not being included in the official press releases. She googled that statement about exposing wrongs and found it was a quote from a chiropractor. Following that quote, she was surprised to see the same quote on another page—this time being quoted by someone else in an argument to an individual curiously named Kevin Curtis, out of Mississippi.
Too perfect a coincidence; the blogger than googled Kevin Curtis and discovered he was, among other things, a professional Elvis impersonator and—figures—a proud Democrat. And on his Facebook page, she saw the phrase “I am KC and I approve this message.” More damning—elsewhere on his Facebook tabs was that same quote from the chiropractor. Further sites found that Mr. Curtis was quite fond of both phrases, and sprinkled them all over his various posts and rants.
The blogger contacted The Blaze for advice, who assured her credit for the story but requested they take it from there. Using some more substantial source checking and conference with law enforcement, turns out she got him. Curtis was arrested shortly after, where law enforcement also learned that Curtis has an imagined hatred of the Senator.
Seriously, law enforcement might want to check into this Internet thing. Seems to be producing results.
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Why oops? Curtis was questioned, cleared, and released. The person who did it may be someone who frequented Curtis' FB page-- that may provide a lead that the FBI can check up on, and they might not have gotten it so quickly w/o the blogger who did the legwork.Terry B. wrote:Oops, he was innocent - somebody set the guy up by copying a catchphrase that the guy frequently used.
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