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Grandpa's Spells wrote:
I'm voting for Gary Johnson
Today he failed to name the leader of North Korea. The jury is no longer out. Gary Johnson is a foreign policy imbecile.
Johnson is reflecting a pragmatic view of foreign policy. America isn't the world's policeman. We shouldn't waste our energy on trivialities like a backwards Stalinist toilet whose people practice cannibalism while pretending to build nuclear weapons. Let the flunkies handle the Norks or let the Japanese do it.

Johnson is the only sane one running this year. Since the System is insane this disqualifies him from winning.
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Gene wrote:
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I'm voting for Gary Johnson
Today he failed to name the leader of North Korea. The jury is no longer out. Gary Johnson is a foreign policy imbecile.
Johnson is reflecting a pragmatic view of foreign policy. Don't waste your energy on trivialities like a backwards Stalinist toilet whose people practice cannibalism while pretending to build nuclear weapons.
The fact that this isn't satire is really amping up a hilarious 24 hours. DPRK has nuclear weapons, they aren't pretending. And you can't decide which countries are trivial without acquainting yourself with them. You can't casually follow the news and not know who Kim Jong Un is, regardless of your decision making process.
Hillary cares about Aleppo because her backers want cheap natural gas in Europe and will kill as many Syrians as needed to get the job done. (see Qatar-Turkey gas pipeline for more details).
One of the better lines I read this week was, "The thing about shitty people is they don't want to believe other people are better then them. They need to believe the people better than them are just pretending."
Trump is busy distracting everyone with trivial shit like locker room talk cause he knows that Progressives care more about words than deeds. Making Hillary look like America's Cunt Mother In Law will help him win.
It. Is. Over. But LOL at Trump plotting to create this distraction by being recording 10 years ago and having no access to the material since.
Johnson is the only sane one running this year. Since the System is insane this disqualifies him from winning.
Gary Johnson is a dumbass. I wish it weren't true, but it's become apparent. The system didn't put a crazy person at the top of the GOP ticket. Decades of retarded propoganda from Limbaugh and talk radio has the idiots so spun up they're mad today at Paul Ryan for distancing himself from Trump.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote:The fact that this isn't satire is really amping up a hilarious 24 hours. DPRK has nuclear weapons, they aren't pretending. And you can't decide which countries are trivial without acquainting yourself with them. You can't casually follow the news and not know who Kim Jong Un is, regardless of your decision making process.
When your party's moral tone is 'Mind your own business' being indifferent to which Kim runs Korea makes sense. The US isn't the world's policeman Troy.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:DPRK has nuclear weapons, they aren't pretending.
They've tested bombs. Doesn't mean that they have weapons. The two are not the same - one is a pampered lab device that is prepared and instrumented. A weapon is a rugged soldier proof device that will work when it has to work. I read about the US program to make soldier proof weapons, and it took some time to do.

The US isn't the Earth's gun control agency. Heck, we helped the Isrealis to get the bomb....
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Hillary cares about Aleppo because her backers want cheap natural gas in Europe and will kill as many Syrians as needed to get the job done. (see Qatar-Turkey gas pipeline for more details).
One of the better lines I read this week was, "The thing about shitty people is they don't want to believe other people are better then them. They need to believe the people better than them are just pretending."
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Hillary on Khaddafy's death...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU[/youtube]

She later said, "It was an unconfirmed rumor". She responded to it like it was a fact, and laughed about it.


Hillary's kind of policy hard at work.

Cannibal soldiers...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SDVQ9cmtWk[/youtube]


Mass execution...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLRgnwENkMU[/youtube]


She's talking of sending our kids over there. She is a sick sick person.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote:Gary Johnson is a dumbass. I wish it weren't true, but it's become apparent. The system didn't put a crazy person at the top of the GOP ticket. Decades of retarded propoganda from Limbaugh and talk radio has the idiots so spun up they're mad today at Paul Ryan for distancing himself from Trump.
Johnson isn't a 'dumbass". He's a lot more like most Americans. He was a decent governor. He would make a good President.

Blaming talk radio and the internet is tempting. I don't buy it. People tried to work with the system. TEA Party and so on. The system worked on them. Committee assignments, preferences on bills, IRS exemptions. The System defended itself.

The Establishment wanted its Rent Seeking and subsidies. They rigged the game. I think that the result was Trump.

Maybe you're right, Steve. I'm not a Trumpeter. I know lots of them, and they're almost in a rage.
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Gene wrote:People tried to work with the system. TEA Party and so on. The system worked on them. Committee assignments, preferences on bills, IRS exemptions. The System defended itself.
People wanted INSTANT CHANGE and NO COMPROMISE in a constitutional system set up by the founders that forces cooperation within the house, within the senate, between the house and senate, between the legislative and executive, and don't forget the judicial. It is designed that way. It is a Ouija board with lots and lots of hands on it. By design.

So whoever sold them the bill of goods that no cooperation is the best way (talk radio takes a big face shot on this) did a huge disservice. They sent people with a strategy that would cause failed government, and then complain when the government fails.

Why do they hate the Constitution so much?
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Pinky wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
I'm voting for Gary Johnson
Today he failed to name the leader of North Korea. The jury is no longer out. Gary Johnson is a foreign policy imbecile.
And yet his foreign policy is still better than Clinton's or Trump's.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0RZ1C020151005
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nafod wrote: So whoever sold them the bill of goods that no cooperation is the best way (talk radio takes a big face shot on this) did a huge disservice. They sent people with a strategy that would cause failed government, and then complain when the government fails.

Why do they hate the Constitution so much?
Who sold you the delusion that the Constitution was about doing MORE SHIT & passing MORE LAWS?

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nafod wrote:
Gene wrote:People tried to work with the system. TEA Party and so on. The system worked on them. Committee assignments, preferences on bills, IRS exemptions. The System defended itself.
People wanted INSTANT CHANGE and NO COMPROMISE in a constitutional system set up by the founders that forces cooperation within the house, within the senate, between the house and senate, between the legislative and executive, and don't forget the judicial. It is designed that way. It is a Ouija board with lots and lots of hands on it. By design.
Mind explaining how the US Supreme Court got the power to effect "social change"? Roe vs Wade "legalized abortion", Wickard vs Filburn turned the Commerce Clause from a restricted power into a license for Congress to dictate what ever it felt like doing.

Here is Elena Kagan being asked by Tom Coburn if she would rule it Constitutional for Congress to force everyone to eat fruits and vegetables each day.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSoWGlyugTo[/youtube]

Kagan's response - "It's a dumb law". She refuses to say that she'd strike it down.

How about Administrative Law? The recent EPA decisions about "Climate Change" all come from a series of Court cases that they inspired. The EPA has activists on the payroll sue them in Court. The shitty science looked good to Federal judges. Now it's the "Law of the Land". They do their thing, based upon a distortion of the Clean Air Act. Congress was not involved.

The last time I recall that anyone voted on Climate Change was the Kyoto treaty. The Senate voted 0-97 against.

What about the Executive Order process? Where in the Constitution did FDR get the power to author Executive Order 9066? This was the executive order which tossed people of Japanese ancestry into concentration camps.

If you're gonna cite "the System" mind explaining these Progressive work arounds, some of which did not exist until Woodrow Wilson, the creator of the Idea of the "Living Constitution" created them?

nafod wrote:So whoever sold them the bill of goods that no cooperation is the best way (talk radio takes a big face shot on this) did a huge disservice. They sent people with a strategy that would cause failed government, and then complain when the government fails.
If the TEA Party didn't want to cooperate they wouldn't have run for political office. That they refuse to go along to get along is part of a fine tradition.
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nafod wrote:Why do they hate the Constitution so much?
Ask Joe Manchin.... he thinks that Due Process is "killing us". The Democrats seem to hate the Constitution too.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04y4zZIPypE[/youtube]

He cites Omar Mateen, asking why the FBI couldn't keep him from getting guns.

Easy. Omar's daddy Seddique Mateen had friends in high places. Here he is at a Hillary speech, sitting right behind her. They interviewed him afterwards.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z3LrOj3IL0[/youtube]


Here he is with Charles Rangel. ( http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06 ... lawmakers/ )

Easy to pass a background check if your old man hangs out with Congressmen. Omar's wife had complained of him beating her. Domestic violence is a disqualifier for gun licenses, passing the brady check, etc.

The Democratic Party response to this insanity was to lobby for a Star Chamber secret Court to decide who gets to buy firearms. No appeals, no due process.

Is the TEA Party so terrible by comparison because they don't want to raise taxes?
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johno wrote:
nafod wrote: So whoever sold them the bill of goods that no cooperation is the best way (talk radio takes a big face shot on this) did a huge disservice. They sent people with a strategy that would cause failed government, and then complain when the government fails.

Why do they hate the Constitution so much?
Who sold you the delusion that the Constitution was about doing MORE SHIT & passing MORE LAWS
There is plenty of stuff that they are supposed to do already without making up more stuff to do. For example, APPROVE NOMINEES and PASS BUDGETS. They are welcome to REPEAL LAWS too.
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Not going to be war with Russia
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nafod wrote:
johno wrote:
nafod wrote: So whoever sold them the bill of goods that no cooperation is the best way (talk radio takes a big face shot on this) did a huge disservice. They sent people with a strategy that would cause failed government, and then complain when the government fails.

Why do they hate the Constitution so much?
Who sold you the delusion that the Constitution was about doing MORE SHIT & passing MORE LAWS
There is plenty of stuff that they are supposed to do already without making up more stuff to do. For example, APPROVE NOMINEES and PASS BUDGETS. They are welcome to REPEAL LAWS too.
If I recall correctly, Harry Reid went for 6 years w/o passing a budget and Bush nominees were blocked vigorously and regularly so the TEA party can't be the sole cause of gridlock.

The Dems are generally better at politics than Reps but there is now some effective fight on the right due to the TEA Party and such. This annoys a lot of people, including the Republican establishment but especially the Democrat establishment and the MSM wing of their party.

We're a house that is increasingly divided and Lincoln advised us at to how that would work out.
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nafod wrote: They are welcome to REPEAL LAWS too.
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The Ginger Beard Man wrote:
Pinky wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
I'm voting for Gary Johnson
Today he failed to name the leader of North Korea. The jury is no longer out. Gary Johnson is a foreign policy imbecile.
And yet his foreign policy is still better than Clinton's or Trump's.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0RZ1C020151005
She will definitely have us at war with Russia in her first year.
The position she's taken on Syria is insane. She's a lunatic with fucked up priorities who doesn't know the difference between "can" and "should". Even if Johnson were as ignorant as his detractors claim, he'd be better than Hillary on foreign policy.

A lot of Johnson's bad press is the result of how he's tried to get publicity. Anyone who does as many unscripted TV interviews as he has will screw up on camera. Someone who's been in the public eye for as long as Clinton will be more practiced at such things, but she has still famously avoided unscripted moments with the press during this campaign.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote:Trump being Trumpy on a hot mic aaaaaaaand it's just about over. Thank god.
About the only group (on either side of the aisle) who's never played 'just the tip' with the Donald is the Bush family. Contemplate that on the tree of woe.
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Pinky wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
I'm voting for Gary Johnson
Today he failed to name the leader of North Korea. The jury is no longer out. Gary Johnson is a foreign policy imbecile.
And yet his foreign policy is still better than Clinton's or Trump's.
Saying stupid shit like this is why this political run is embarrassing.

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Nothing Hillary "Smart Power" Clinton has ever said about foreign policy makes as much sense as this.
"The biggest problems that we’re facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all."

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This, I agree with for sure.

One thing is, in our current hyper-classified TS/SCI world, getting the information to congress to make a smart decision without spilling the beans is hard. I think we protect the beans too much.
As for authorization, whatever happened to the constitutional notion that Congress should declare wars? The interventions that have cost thousands of lives and trillions of dollars over the past fifteen years have been conducted on the basis of authorizations passed by Congress in the aftermath of 9/11. Congress has since allowed the president to conduct "executive wars" while avoiding their responsibility to place a check—or an approval—on those wars. Yes, they have continued to fund them, but as far as casting the tough votes to drop bombs or deploy our young men and women, Congress has been AWOL.

We need to honor the War Powers Act and force both Congress and the president to only engage in war with a clear authorization from both the Executive and Legislative Branches. As president, I will honor the War Powers Act, without hiding behind dubious legal opinions from my own lawyers.
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Johnson is also the only candidate who really accepts that Congress makes the laws. Hillary and Trump both talk as though they're running for Monarch. Johnson and Weld are unusually quick to start talking about working with Congress to accomplish anything on the domestic front.
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donald is a russian agent. putin ally says elect donald or face nuclear destruction.
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nafod wrote:There is plenty of stuff that they are supposed to do already without making up more stuff to do. For example, APPROVE NOMINEES and PASS BUDGETS. They are welcome to REPEAL LAWS too.
What ever happened to "advise and consent" on nominees and negotiate budgets? To paraphrase Ollie North's attorney - the US Congress is not five hundred some potted plants who are there to obey Obama.
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As President, Gary Johnson will move quickly and decisively to cut off the funding on which violent extremist armies depend. He will repair relationships with our allies. And he will only send our brave soldiers to war when clearly authorized by Congress after meaningful, transparent deliberation and debate.

The idea that we can defeat terrorism by simply putting more boots on the ground or dropping more bombs ignores the reality that this expensive tactic simply hasn’t worked. In fact, it’s made the situation worse.
https://www.johnsonweld.com/foreign_pol ... al_defense

Who thinks it's out of line? He doesn't know where Aleppo is but he's willing to ask 500 some people to vote to send kids there.

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This is all you need to know about Hillary's foreign policy... someone is gonna die, early and often. Most likely some Arab person who became "collateral damage".

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I knew the GOP was going to try to re-fight the 90's battles, but I didn't think they were going to make it about sex scandals and then lose all within 5 days.

This is bad. You need a functioning Conservative party.
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Last Fall I told my daughter, who is a total political junkie, that she'd be able to tell her grandchildren that she was there for the 2016 election. Holy shit was I right.

LOL at the republicans who were for Trump, then dumped him after the tape, then walked back The Dumping after getting threatened, and now get to watch the groped come out of the inevitable woodwork. He is burning it all to the ground.

There can be no greater loser on this Earth than a republican who loses to HRC this year. Anyone else and it would be a blowout. Anyone. Maybe Johnson/Weld can pull off the amazing and topple them all.

The HRC campaign should hand out "where Donald touched me" dolls to women at campaign stops. I'd love one as a souvenir.
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