You made my strawman cry, you meanie!!Thud wrote:Gene wrote:So if it turns out that there is no Human Caused Global Warming but we get "Global Governance" that degenerates into a tyranny which one of you dumbass Progressives is gonna put a stop to that?Thud wrote:And such is the conundrum of prudence. There are those who'll sacrifice nothing until something is proven beyond the shadow of a doubt, and such proof will never be possible, however dire the outcome.Of course, the planet's climate has always been in flux thanks to "natural" factors such as changes in solar or volcanic activity, or cycles relating the Earth's orbit around the sun. According to the scientific literature, however, the warming recorded to date matches the pattern of warming we would expect from a build up of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere – not the warming we would expect from other possible causes.
Even if scientists did discover another plausible explanation for the warming observed to date, that would beg a difficult question. As Robert Henson puts it in The Rough Guide to Climate Change:
"If some newly discovered factor can account for the climate change then why aren't carbon dioxide and the other greenhouse gases producing the warming that basic physics tells us they should be?"
The only way to prove with 100% certainty that humans are responsible for global warming would be to run an experiment with two identical Earths – one with human influence and one without. That obviously isn't possible, and so most scientists are careful not to state human influence as an absolute certainty. Nonetheless, the evidence is now extremely strong.
It's like coming upon a football coach ass pounding a child in the locker room and declaring one needs more data before they can decide if they should stop it or not. After all, what if it's not as detrimental as some might suggest?
Since you consider such "excesses" as gun registration, environmental protection, restrictions against drunk driving, etc, to be tyrannical, I think it's a risk worth taking.
When other kids were lying in bed at night fearful a zombie might be in their closet waiting to kill them, you were petrified a building code enforcement agent might be under your bed waiting to fine you. What crimes against humanity are you so afraid of being prohibited from performing?
Gene, you need to get your ass out of Pennsyltucky, or wherever the fuck you live, for a day or two and see the world. Go visit a social democracy and stare the beast in the eyes. It's might not be as dreadful as you think.
Gene
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Thanks for admitting that this "Global Warming" horseshit is political and not scientific.